[Jetsfan115]

Its just usually people side with the systems they have. I had a friend of mine who said the PS2 graphics were better then xbox. Its crazy. Anyway I felt cause I have all 3 I would be the least biased. I do not work for Microsoft or any of the companies. I work for an electric company. I’m not a PC expert but I know a thing or 2 and xbox was way better then PS2 and the new xbox will be better then PS3. an I was a big playstation fan for a long time until I played the xbox and seen how much better it is. I think some people need to step into the new age of technology. And it is the xbox. It seems people are just saying it because they hate Microsoft. I hate them too. Did u hear about software leasing? Probably not and when I did it made me hate them more. Not to mention all the holes windows has to be hacked by everyone. But it doesn’t change the fact that at the end of the day they built a better system then sony provided.

[haveyouseenpenningtonplay]

Did u hear about software leasing? Probably not

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please do not assume what i do and do not know

anyway let's take this to the topic i just put up in the man show

[Jetsfan115]

Xbox sells GTA3 and vice city together in a pack for the price of one. With updated graphics. I liked both of them. Don’t care for san andreas but if it’s a big hit on PS the xbox will get it too. Everytime. They even have FF. I don’t like it. People like it because it is such an easy game but long. Its like impossible not to beat FF. its popular but I love RPGs and I don’t like it too much. I’m not gonna say it sucks but I don’t think it deserves the hype. I also love contra. They sell it at the mall. For 35 bucks you get 2 controllers. A gun and 76 games built in including Mario, pac-man, contra, duck hunt and more. A great deal. I didn’t buy one cause I don’t have the time for it but you’d probably love it.

[Jetme23]

PS3 is a waist of your money. It may have a few hundred more games, but they always come out with shitty games. In fact, they all suck except for that once a year hit. The whole blue ray thing is stupid, its not worth your time. Xbox is far superior to the likings of PS3, in fact by the time ps3 rolles out xbox will have been on the market longer and will have its priced slash. The only people that will really buy ps3 are the sony fanboy's and girls.

[Chaos]

the new xbox is much better!!!!!!! PS3 looks like a waste of money but i wouldn't mind both.

[jets0n]

Either way I think I am leaning towards PC gaming anyway. Pretty much any big hit game is on PC and you have more processing power, about 5 times the RAM. Tons of space, and an internet connection without having to pay 40 dollars for an addon. Plus, updates!!!! That was my biggest thing, as soon as you get Madden, it seems out of date! Anyway, to say XBox is gonna be better than PS3 is stupid cause neither has come out yet, but I will tell you this that alot of people are already dissapointed with XBox360. So just keep that in mind. As well as MS is battling Google now, and that is their main focus for the time being, dont expect so much from the XBox.

PC is where it's gonna be anyway!

[ellisjersey92]

DO NOT ASSUME YOU KNOW WHAT THE NEW XBOX OR PS3 WILL BE LIKE. UNESS YOU WORK FOR SONY OR MICROSOFT AND YOU DEVELOPED IT, YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT EITHER

[jets0n]

This is a direct quote from people that get paid to know what they are talking about and judge the console systems at E3:

http://gamesdomain.y.../feature/116217

Who'd have thought that Sony could pull off such a coup? Sure, the PlayStation 3 is going to lag behind the Xbox 360 by six months or so, but -- if we can believe the Sony press conference -- it's going to grind it into the dust on the hardware. Massive hardware power, a built-in hard drive, up to seven wireless controllersm and a display resolution so high you can't even buy a television to support it. Make no mistake, it's a beast of a console.

So there you go, PS3 is better than XBox180 [lol] :tease:

[ManginiIsMyHero]

Notice. I never posted during this argument. WHy? because I cannot get into these arguments. I have too much to say. and way too little time to say it. Like right now I should have been asleep for like 2 hours already but I had to come here. You know what? This is my last ever post. I need to get my time in priority. I have no time since I've been home between work and my social life. I'm sorry but I respect you all and love this place, but I need my life back and while I was about to post my feelings on the games spoken previously about I decided I couldnt say it all. Good luck to you all and GO JETS!

[Jetme23]

I hope you know that xbox will be useable on your pc.

[Maynard13]

Well, concidering I can play both systems, It doesn't matter to me, but I will get the PS3, just becasue thats the system I started with and had PS,PS@,and now PS3

-But idk about sum of u guys, but everyone I know that has XBox only got it cuz they suck a videogames, so when me and my friedns would play PS2, they would suck, so they baught XBox as an excuse when they sucked on PS2, though when I play them on XBox I still win, and I'm not that good wit it, but idk about every1 else, but thats the pattern I've seen.

[Jetsfan115]

I’m really good at games I’ve beaten everybody from Nintendo to super Nintendo to sega to Nintendo 64 to PS1 to PS2 to CG to Xbox.

[jets0n]

Some more EXPERT analysis: People can argue specs all day, my techno knowledge isn't deep enough to understand a damn thing about it anyway, plus I have a life. You should read some of these kids on the internet....bunch of losers. Anyway check out this quote, cause all that really matters is how it plays right?

http://story.news.ya...0vsplaystation3

Much to the surprise of journalists, Sony came out with a bang at their pre-E3 conference on Monday. What started off as a dull series of generic demos and videos quickly turned into a jaw-dropping demonstration of the PlayStation 3’s capabilities -- completely overshadowing Microsoft’s subsequent Xbox 360 press event.

Sony pulled out all stops, revealing the look of the console, specs, and launch date. Slated for release in Spring 2006, the PlayStation 3 features a PowerPC-base core running at 3.2 GHz, 256MB of XDR RAM at 3.2 GHz, 256MB GDDR3 VRAM at 700 MHz, Bluetooth wireless controllers, built in WiFi (802.11b/g), and RSX, a state-of-the-art next-gen GPU by Nvidia with a clock speed of 550 MHz. Similar to the Xbox 360, the GPU is able to freely access the 512MB of RAM, lacking the constraints seen in conventional PCs. And continuing its tradition, the console is backwards compatible -- as is the Xbox 360.

While techno-geeks can ponder forever the potential ramifications of the specs, Sony spoke most clearly through its impressive demos (both tech and also of actual games), showing the potent console at work. Make no mistake: the PlayStation 3 is utterly superior in graphics to the Xbox 360 from what has been shown.

What really set the PS3 apart from the 360 was its lighting and shadow effects. The first tech demo showed light absorption and subsurface refraction, highlighting how different surfaces react differently to lighting. For example, skin reflected a warmer glow due to the light being partially absorbed, while the eyes give off a realistically glassy reflection. The lighting model was advanced enough to even show high-intensity light glowing through the body (much as you’d see when you cover a strong light source with your fingers). Game demos such as Fight Night Round 3 implemented other graphics-hog effects such as soft shadows (where shadow edges look blurry at a distance). And like the 360, the PS3 also had bloom effects, light flooding and bump mapping.

While each effect in of itself is subtle, when all combined the added ambiance is noticeably improved from what’s seen in top-end PC graphics. The PS3 also seemed to have significantly more complex polygonal models than the Xbox 360. While the 360’s rather disappointing Ghost Recon 3 looked like a minor facelift from Ghost Recon 2, Killzone on the PlayStation 3 was an eye-opener -- undoubtedly the most beautiful looking FPS game to date (Quake 3 and Half-Life 2 pale in comparison). When comparing the graphics between the 360 and the PS3, the latter has graphics that are true to the phrase "next-generation" while the 360 seems more like a respectable upgrade (say, the jump from PS One to PS2) from the original Xbox.

The main concern with the PlayStation 3, however, is the controller design. Onlookers quickly adopted the description of "boomerang" as the controller featured exaggerated curves and arcs. Disconcertingly, the buttons and d-pads are slightly tilted, recalling the sour experiences with Microsoft’s ergonomically disastrous Sidewinder. Analog thumbsticks look largely unchanged from the
PlayStation 2, another point of concern. From a surface assessment, the Xbox 360 looks to have the better controller.

On the brighter side, the design of the PS3 console itself is minimalist and sleek in an industrial, Bose sort of way. The console is convex as opposed to concave, interestingly enough -- whether or not Sony deliberately made an opposite design decision to Microsoft is unknown. While Sony and Microsoft seem to want to elicit different emotions from their console designs (Sony’s cold, brushed aluminum cool versus Microsoft’s soft and fun), Sony yet again wins out with a more aesthetically alluring console.

Although the 360 looks inferior to the PS3 in terms of sheer hardware capabilities, Microsoft’s console stands out from Sony’s with its mass-market appeal. Serving as a game console, Tivo, one-stop source for on-demand media (MP3s, movies, music), video chat service, the Xbox 360 seems far more versatile than the PS3 -- potentially drawing in a much more diverse audience. Slides even showed the console to be potentially compatible with rival electronics such as the iPod and PSP. Sony by contrast didn’t focus much on the media functionality of the console; it did show its compatibility with a whole slew of CD and DVD formats, but the PS3 doesn’t seem to have DVD burning functionality.

Microsoft’s big investment for the Xbox 360 is online with Xbox Live, and Microsoft showed itself to be better prepared for out-of-the-box network features. While a lot of the presentation rehashed what had previously been announced, J Allard also expanded on the marketplace functionality, saying that gamers can potentially sell their goods to other gamers online (custom T-shirts, car parts). Sony’s explanation of its online functionality was relatively brief, the only revelation being the use of an Eyetoy-like device for HD IP camera. While Sony may come out with more concrete information about online, for now Microsoft has shown to be more forward thinking with respect to online gaming.

Still, in the end Sony stole the attention for the day. Microsoft’s spark was clearly fizzling when it made its surprise announcement toward the end of its press event about working together with Square Enix& to bring Final Fantasy XI (of all games, one that’s already been released on PC and PS2) on the 360. Comparing that to the announcement of Final Fantasy XII being released on the PlayStation 3 (not to mention Metal Gear Solid 4 and Devil May Cry 4), it seems Japanese developers are still holding their cards closer to Sony.

[jets0n]

My thoughts on this are just like it is said: Developers are still preferring Sony. That's all that matters. Not only that but Sony creamed the Xbox with its demos, all I know is that everyone is dissapointed with Xbox's demos. Saying its practically the same as the old versions. Well that's cause MS has 0 innovation and steals everything from everyone else. They can't keep up with anyone cause they dont create anything, they just steal.

And how about this, the XBox is a multipurpose machine?!?!? I am sorry but I dont buy consoles for the multipurposes. I buy it to play video games. It seems like MS knows it can't compete so it adds a bunch of money wasted features instead of using the money where it should be, making a better console.

The ONLY reason the Xbox was better than PS2 was cause of the fact that it came out a YEAR AFTER PS2! Of course the graphics are gonna look better, look at what has happened since last year in terms of graphics. It's huge, especially when you can take a whole year to steal someone elses ideas and use better tools to create it .. anyway Sony has everyone pissing in their pants. These demos look sick! I know I am getting one....as far as what a1elbow says about Nintendo, I agree 100%. However, I dont know what their deal is. But nothing will ever top Mario or Zelda or GoldenEye!

[Jetsfan115]

I'm betting a lot of people here have all there systems.  I have all three, an atari, GB (B&W, Color, and advanced), Genesis, a super nintendo, N64, and a regular nintendo.  Most of them are now in storage are in the hands of a relative, but it was just a point to make.  I know a lot of people that have all three systems, so it is pretty silly to assume you are one of the few and are goign to have the best opinon on them.

I started out loving the XBox, but after the first year when their best games were getting constantly pushed back and just too few were being releassed in general, I learned to appreciate Nintendo's commitment to being professional.  It seems too many companies these days pick an unrealalistic release date and then just push back their games as many times as they need to.  Nintendo doesn't.
People like FF because they are beautiful games with amazing soundtracks.  You keep mentioning all these games you claim are innovative, but you don't appreciate what the Final Fantasy's bring?  You have the nerve to tell people to get into the new technology when you haven't mentioned a game older than a couple years as great? 

FF rewrote its own genre, and changed the others.  No game had music on the level FF did when it came out.  Last year their was a touring orchestra playing FF music that sold out every where it went.  FF has also broke ground in storylines (most games don't even come close to the charcter development of a FF) and cinematic shots.  When FF came out, a game's storyline was usually "girlfriend kidnapped, go beat up people!" or "madman has bomb, go kill thugs and him!" and usually ended in "be cool, stay in school!"  FF changed all that with an amazingly deep storyline, numerous side adventures to discover, and (the series' best feature) great charcter development.

Today's games don't hold a candle to the glory days when a company couldn't fall back on marketing schemes, graphics, and violence to make a game a hit.  As much as I like many of the modern games, I'll play Super Mario 3, Sonic the Hedgehog, Megaman, or Final Fantasy IV before most any game made in the last decade.

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I hate to tell you but halo 1 beat out FF for best soundtrack in a game and the soundtrack itself was released as a CD. Plus the graphics are way better then FF. It doesn’t do much for RPGs. I think fable did a lot more for RPGs and so did the elder scrolls series. Although the breakthrough one was probab;t the original legend of Zelda on regular Nintendo. Man I loved that game. I wasn’t big on megaman but they released all of them on one disc on the xbox for 20dollars

[jets0n]

Also I have read a bunch of BS from these kids on the internet that "Sony is lying about specs as always". Yeah whatever, I believe Sony specs over MS specs anyday of the week! Especially since Sony backed up their claims with real game demos. MS should change their initials to BS, cause there system is just a marketting tool. They dont care about good games.

My only gripe with Sony, which I hear this isn't even a set date anyway, is that it is gonna be 1 full year to get on the market. Some people are saying that the PS is gonna come out alot sooner than that, but the XBox will still be out first. That's ok with me, let MS put out a garbage machine. More people will sell it to get the PS3 and MS will have to focus more on being the shitty monopoly they are.

Oh and I forgot to add Metal Gear to the list of untoppable games. All Xbox can do is come out with some shitty Ghost Recon game that I beat in a matter of hours, and has less gameplay features than Metal Gear.

[S-Dubb]

Hey this is all you guys want to know about the new systems. No reading required . These video streams will shock and amaze some people. The microsoft link is the best one .

It's a long stream so sit back and enjoy

Has everythnig you wanna know about all the New systems

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3live.html

[Jetsfan115]

I only listed the most recent. Zelda was a true RPG and the first 3 FFs sucked. Only 4 and 7 were decent. Definitely not revolutionary. The same choice menu. A hybrid was more like parasite eve not Zelda. Zelda had the right idea. FF bores you too much. D&D were great RPGs as well but the newer ones sucked. And I never played eye of the beholder. Like I said I had almost every system since calico. Minus sega Saturn and dreamcast. I’ll name all the ones I had. Calico, Atari, Nintendo, super Nintendo, sega genisis, PS1, Nintendo 64, GC, PS2, and xbox. I know RPGs. FF might be popular now only because what else does PS2 have? That’s why. Its like the only RPG for play station. That’s why its popular. If I didn’t have a choice I would play it too.