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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 10:42 PM

yea nugent may have been a mistake

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:02 AM

QUOTE (penningtonpays @ Oct 4 2005, 10:17 PM)
yea nugent may have been a mistake


Yeah, we should have different coaches and 11 different starters on offense and defense too...


Oh, and that punter shouldn't be here...




And Green and White? What's up with that?
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:24 AM

O-line problems....


Man... and with our front four that = disaster for your QB.

I'd actually feel better if Brooks started. Vinny has an axe to grind with us and always had a special touch on the deep ball. I remember what you guys did to the Fins that MNF years back...

That said... your O-line better come prepared or it's going to be a loooooooong day. Our D is the best in the league. Some say it's as good if not better than our SB defense. The ONLY weak link is Bolden. If Vinny gets time to throw at him, we'll have problems.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 09:03 AM

you won't feel that way about nugent when he kicks a game winner. hey anyone notice he always gives graham a pound before kicking?
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 03:56 PM

i'll still feel that way. first off i never wanted him and i believe i had posted how bad our draft was when it happend. second of all the guy can't get a touch back for his life. he's suppose to have a powerful leg but he can't get a touch back. he won't be kicking any 50 yarders. dont' slip on a thirty yarder or kick the ball out of bounds. then we'll talk about 50 yarders. get a touch back once in a while. for second round pick and our first pick in the draft. that's disappoiting andi knew that from teh gate
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 04:14 PM

He doesn’t get touchbacks cause stupid westhoff makes him directional kick
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 5 2005, 04:49 PM)
He doesn’t get touchbacks cause stupid westhoff makes him directional kick

first off westhoff is a great special teams coach. he has always done well with our special teams. second of all nugent obviously doesn't have the leg for touchbacks. even if you claim that westhoff makes him directional kick(which we have no proof of. nugent probably can't even control his own directions), you honestly think a special teams coach would tell someone who CAN kick touchbacks NOT to kick touchbacks. and to directional kick and let the opposing team return it. lets be serious.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 09:43 PM

Oh and just for the record, I saw Nugget kick a few right down the middle of the field that landed at about the 10.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 09:48 PM

Be lucky you don't have Martin Gramatica..... biggrin.gif

Glad we don't either........ yahoo.gif
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 12:24 AM

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Be lucky you don't have Martin Gramatica..... biggrin.gif

Glad we don't either........ yahoo.gif

Amen... Automattica became Wuss-attica really fast!

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Posted 06 October 2005 - 08:49 AM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Oct 5 2005, 08:16 PM)
first off westhoff is a great special teams coach. he has always done well with our special teams. second of all nugent obviously doesn't have the leg for touchbacks. even if you claim that westhoff makes him directional kick(which we have no proof of. nugent probably can't even control his own directions), you honestly think a special teams coach would tell someone who CAN kick touchbacks NOT to kick touchbacks. and to directional kick and let the opposing team return it. lets be serious.


Do u even watch the games? how can u say that I say that and have no proof of. Watch the game. When do u ever see him kick to the middle. its always on one side. And what make shim such a good coach? Cause everyone says he is? When was the last time we had a top special teams unit. Not since game 1 of 02 when mortan ran 2 back. I know cochery ran one back last year but it was a fluke. Nobody else has done anything really. Wake up and see our special teams are average. westhoff should get the boot for having all these years and still not putting a playmaking unit on the field. And yes he does tell him to kick it to one side simply cause it takes away lanes for the returner.
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:04 AM

I am sorry, but it isn't that simple. The O-line has been bad, but it is our team's fault...plain and simple. Every area is hurting. WR's dropping balls, Dinger not going downfield on a hobbled Ed Reed, granted the O-line stems all the way down, but they can be motivated as well. I must add that our "D" has kept us in this thing.
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:10 AM

The defense is playing fine. The problem is the o-line they aren’t giving time in tha pass game. They allow tooo many sacks and aren’t opening up holes.
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:17 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 6 2005, 11:45 AM)
The defense is playing fine. The problem is the o-line they aren’t giving time in tha pass game. They allow tooo many sacks and aren’t opening up holes.

::sniff:: ::sniff:: what's that smell?

Ahhh fear. Vinny's afraid.

Geritol Bon Bon man will be on his back Sunday.












(Take that in jest please... I love Vinny, but fear for his health. Your O-line isn't strong enough IMO to stop Booger, SIm, Hov', and Spires.)
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:21 AM

Vinny will be fine. He’ll play a lot out of the shotgun. So he’ll have time. Expect a lot of quick slants and WR screens to make the d-line honost tehn watch out for the bomb. I also think we’ll see a flea flicker from the jets. vinnys got the arm for it no doubt. He might be 42 but can throw a ball further then most of the QBs in the league
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:30 AM

Blanda took the Raiders to the Championship Game in '85!

HE WAS 43!!
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:34 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 6 2005, 11:56 AM)
Vinny will be fine. He’ll play a lot out of the shotgun. So he’ll have time. Expect a lot of quick slants and WR screens to make the d-line honost tehn watch out for the bomb. I also think we’ll see a flea flicker from the jets. vinnys got the arm for it no doubt. He might be 42 but can throw a ball further then most of the QBs in the league


Can he throw that far from the prone position? biggrin.gif
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 10:44 AM

I wouldn’t talk. Griese is gonna be on his back more then a cheap hooker. Lol

I’m gonna move this to the smackdown forum now because that’s what it has become

Oh and don’t even try to use your WRs. Caus ethey couldn’t catch crabs from a 5 dolla hooker let along a football.


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Posted 06 October 2005 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 6 2005, 09:24 AM)
And yes he does tell him to kick it to one side simply cause it takes away lanes for the returner.


why would u directional kick if you can get touchbacks. to take away lanes?? does that make any sense to you??? HINT HINT. IF YOU TOUCHBACK THERE ARE NO LANES!!! so of course nugent doesn't have the leg. duh. that's why you tell him to kick directionally cuz he doesn't have the leg. it's so obvious
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Oct 6 2005, 02:40 PM)
why would u directional kick if you can get touchbacks. to take away lanes?? does that make any sense to you??? HINT HINT. IF YOU TOUCHBACK THERE ARE NO LANES!!! so of course nugent doesn't have the leg. duh. that's why you tell him to kick directionally cuz he doesn't have the leg. it's so obvious


Wow once again u make no sense. Vinny has an arm and can bomb it all day. does that mean that u let him? NO! of course it makes sense. Look lets say westhoff says kick it. lets say nugent kicks it 1 yard deep in the end zone. The guy is gonna run it out and will have all types of room to do it. if he dierectional kicks it to th 5 yard line he’ll gaet tackled earlier so it more then makes up for the yardage. Westhoff is either an idiot or doesn’t have confidence in his unit to cover the whole field. If u watch nugents video in collge he kicks them through the endzone. Its only a 5 yard difference in the NFL I believe so he can kick it 5 yards deep. Remember the out of bounds kicks? Its cause he was trying to directional kick it EVEN WESTHHOFF SAID SO!
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