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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:14 PM) finally made a play on defense once Pryor came in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:15 PM) besides that INT, Geno looks better than last season IMO. seems more comfortable and is going through progressions.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:18 PM) DeMario Davis seems like hes poised to have a breakout season at LB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:50 PM) It was nice seeing Pryor in, he made some plays. I think hes going to be the real deal and that we will hit on a stud with him
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) The pick by Geno seemed to be more on Nelson. Nelson sat on his route. Geno threw it were he was supposed to be.
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
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azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Post icon  Posted 13 March 2007 - 12:53 PM

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:02 PM

they have us at #5 shear nonsense. that would only be true if Mangini made that a team goal in his game plan.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:17 PM

I think its pretty legit recognition about how good our RB's are now.. considering last year all everyone would talk about is how bad we sucked at running the ball
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:21 PM

Haha, I love how they have Rhodes and Jordan! Either of those backs will have trouble getting 1000 yards in Oakland's offense.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:25 PM

I think the two pictures accurately describe the diffrences in styles between Leon and TJ. If you look at TJ his legs are aligned and it seems as if he's pulling out of cut, where as Leon's legs are bent and far apart like he's making a juke.

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:26 PM

#5 is definitely a fair position IMO as Jones is a workhorse and has been great the past two seasons whilst Washington was extremely impressive this past season for a 4th round pick.

I would have Dunn and Norwood 6 though. Their play is overshadowed by the running skills of Vick but without those two the Falcons offense would go nowhere as Vick hasn't shown he can get it done through the air. I'd have 6, 7, 8 as Dunn and Norwood, Foster and Williams and then Henry and Bell in that order.
There is no doubting #1 though and I see that as being highly successful for years to come until one of them gets tired of having to share the load, which may be a longshot to happen.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:39 PM

I wouldnt count on # 1 being around for too long. Its all about money and cap space and the Saints simply cant afford to pay two RBs starting money each. Remember Deuce has that big contract and Bush has the huge rookie contract. (and it will only go up)
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:42 PM

Can't complain. Jones-Drew is a little too high up though.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:23 PM

That picture is tight of Leon Washington. Atleast we are gettin some respect now. The other runningbacks tandems are really good, so we should be glad at being top 5 for right now. Maybe next year we will have the best runningback tandem in the NFL.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Mar 13 2007, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That picture is tight of Leon Washington.


It's just a normal picture dude....OH NO, please don't tell me you have a crush.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:55 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Mar 13 2007, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's just a normal picture dude....OH NO, please don't tell me you have a crush.

There isn't enough room in kk's heart to fit both Kobe and Leon

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Mar 13 2007, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's just a normal picture dude....OH NO, please don't tell me you have a crush.

Keep it up and i'm gonna report you to Bluelinecop! crazy.gif
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:36 PM

Wheres KC LJ and Micheal Bennett or SD LT and Turner?
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 05:39 PM

You see how in the Saints pic they have both Reggie and Duece out there at once. That what I want the Jets to have both Jones and Leon in the backfield at the same time so they don't know whether they're going to get Leon's speed or Jones' power. I've been hearing a few people say that our back field is kind of like a poor man's Saints backfield with Leon-Reggie and Jones-Duece

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Mar 13 2007, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keep it up and i'm gonna report you to Bluelinecop! crazy.gif


LOL ... I'll file a report. kobeskool asked me if I would go into the "chat room" with him. He intended to abuse me in ways that are illegal in 42 states.

BS16 actually makes a good point about a RB tandem. To me, SD is the best running team in the league. Both those running backs compliment each other very well. Reggie and Duece... I don't think they deserve #1 and I actually, now that I'm thinking about it, think we have a better "running" duo than they do. Reggie Bush doesn't impress me as a RB.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:07 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Mar 13 2007, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been hearing a few people say that our back field is kind of like a poor man's Saints backfield with Leon-Reggie and Jones-Duece


A poor man's Reggie-Duece combo? Now if THAT isn't insulting I don't know what is. First off Leon can actually run the ball 10 times better than Reggie. What does Reggie average, 3.6 a carry? Leon averages 4.3 ... that's a whole lot better than 3.6 I'll tell you that right now. Duece vs Jones? I'll take Jones 10 times out of 10. Duece is fragile and I prefer Jones running style and his monster arms. He breaks tackles and necks with those guns.

Seriously, have you been hearing that because that's gonna really piss me off? It's so retarded it's not even funny. Leon played better than Reggie.

Don't believe me? It's because you're believing the HYPE MACHINE known as Reggie Bush. OVER RATED!
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Bush | 742 Yards | 88 Receptions | 8.4 Yards/Catch | 2 TDs | 74 Longest Catch
Leon | 270 Yards | 25 Receptions | 10.8 Yards/Catch | 0 TDs | 64 Longest Catch


Reggie Bush touched the ball 68 times more than Leon did. Look at the difference. Mostly those touches were in receptions. Can you imagine if we threw Leon 63 more screen passes? Get outta here! Poor man's huh? Why, because he was a 4th round pick and had ZERO hype? Maybe that's what it is. FRB! [ F*ck Reggie Bush ]

Leon isn't a poor mans Reggie, he's better and I honestly believe that which is why I was a little bit upset with the Thomas Jones acquisition. I'm pretty sure that Thomas Jones is better than Duece. DM is good, I'm not saying he sucks. But he's not better than TJ. I'm really pissed off that you're hearing that. Damn your ears biggrin.gif.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:24 PM

That list is bullshit. LT and Michael Turner aren't even on there.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Mar 13 2007, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A poor man's Reggie-Duece combo? Now if THAT isn't insulting I don't know what is. First off Leon can actually run the ball 10 times better than Reggie. What does Reggie average, 3.6 a carry? Leon averages 4.3 ... that's a whole lot better than 3.6 I'll tell you that right now. Duece vs Jones? I'll take Jones 10 times out of 10. Duece is fragile and I prefer Jones running style and his monster arms. He breaks tackles and necks with those guns.

Seriously, have you been hearing that because that's gonna really piss me off? It's so retarded it's not even funny. Leon played better than Reggie.

Don't believe me? It's because you're believing the HYPE MACHINE known as Reggie Bush. OVER RATED!
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Leon | 650 | 4.3 Average | 4 TDs | 33 First Downs | 23 Longest Run

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Bush | 742 Yards | 88 Receptions | 8.4 Yards/Catch | 2 TDs | 74 Longest Catch
Leon | 270 Yards | 25 Receptions | 10.8 Yards/Catch | 0 TDs | 64 Longest Catch
Reggie Bush touched the ball 68 times more than Leon did. Look at the difference. Mostly those touches were in receptions. Can you imagine if we threw Leon 63 more screen passes? Get outta here! Poor man's huh? Why, because he was a 4th round pick and had ZERO hype? Maybe that's what it is. FRB! [ F*ck Reggie Bush ]

Leon isn't a poor mans Reggie, he's better and I honestly believe that which is why I was a little bit upset with the Thomas Jones acquisition. I'm pretty sure that Thomas Jones is better than Duece. DM is good, I'm not saying he sucks. But he's not better than TJ. I'm really pissed off that you're hearing that. Damn your ears biggrin.gif.

I agree the only reason Bush and Deuce are number one is because they are more popular then T Jones and Leon. The list should've been Michael Turner and LT at number one, at number 2 we should've been there. At number 3 i should've been Michael Bennett, Priest Holmes and LJ, Number 4 should be Deuce and Reggie Bush. The last one should be the Jones Drew and Fred Taylor.


QUOTE (jets0n @ Mar 13 2007, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL ... I'll file a report. kobeskool asked me if I would go into the "chat room" with him. He intended to abuse me in ways that are illegal in 42 states.

BS16 actually makes a good point about a RB tandem. To me, SD is the best running team in the league. Both those running backs compliment each other very well. Reggie and Duece... I don't think they deserve #1 and I actually, now that I'm thinking about it, think we have a better "running" duo than they do. Reggie Bush doesn't impress me as a RB.

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:31 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Mar 13 2007, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That list is bullshit. LT and Michael Turner aren't even on there.

I think that's because LT and Turner aren't really a tandem. When one player touches the ball 5 times a game and the other gets thirty its not really a tandem. All those listed are/will split the carries 50/50 or 60/40 i.e. TJ and Leon. Also why Johnson and Bennett aren't on there or even McGahee/Anderson

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:50 PM

QUOTE (ganggreen_ewok @ Mar 13 2007, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that's because LT and Turner aren't really a tandem.


BINGO! they don't schematically run them. Turner gives L.T a breather here and there their not a tandem.
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