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azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:50 PM

This guy is a monster! I really wish we had him. He is a huge space eater, I m watching the Colts Ravens game and he made a nice tackle at the line. That guy just doesnt move, imagen him being our NT, that would be sick!
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:55 PM

him and wilfork on the pats are really good nts. i dont think there is one of them to go after in the draft.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:08 PM

Ngata is not their NT, Kelly Gregg is. When the Ravens go into a 3-4 base Ngata moves out to DE.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:15 PM

Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Jan 13 2007, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ngata is not their NT, Kelly Gregg is. When the Ravens go into a 3-4 base Ngata moves out to DE.


exactly. ngata is more of a d-rob/ 3 technique tackle. why woudl we draft one of those? espicially wehn we had jones or cavka as our starting LT and a top prospect is on the board
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:45 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Jan 13 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT

Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere?
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:52 PM

Ngata is not like Robertson, he is a natural NT. He is a space eater, just a athletic one. He isnt a guy that gets sacks, he is a guy that just eats up double teams and takes people off the LBs. Plus they dont play a real 3-4, they just have Suggs stand up then say its a 3-4, its a joker one.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:55 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ngata is not like Robertson, he is a natural NT. He is a space eater, just a athletic one. He isnt a guy that gets sacks, he is a guy that just eats up double teams and takes people off the LBs. Plus they dont play a real 3-4, they just have Suggs stand up then say its a 3-4, its a joker one.

its still a real 3-4. same way we do with bryan thomas. he is a joker (whic comes for the term jokers are a wild card,) cause he's a wild card on defense. he can line up anywhere
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Jan 13 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT

if it werent for ferguson i bet u either chad would be injured and we wouldnt make the playoffs or we wouldnt had made the playoffs and chad wouldnt be comeback player of the year, btw as long as something unexpectedly gay doesnt happen im gonna be a proud owner of a jersey of that 280 pound LT
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 13 2007, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
its still a real 3-4. same way we do with bryan thomas. he is a joker (whic comes for the term jokers are a wild card,) cause he's a wild card on defense. he can line up anywhere

True. They are still a 46 defense.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True. They are still a 46 defense.


no there not. they scrapped that. there a base 4-3 defense now
Get it done MT
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 13 2007, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no there not. they scrapped that. there a base 4-3 defense now

either way its not a 3-4.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
either way its not a 3-4.


but they play a lot of 3-4 during the game
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:36 PM

its like us. were a 3-4 base but use alot of 4-3. espicially on 3rd and long i've noticed. most teams use a hybrid. ravens are a base 4-3 right now
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:39 PM

Just saying, when they do, do that "Joker" 3-4, they dont line Ngata at DE, he is really playing at the DT postion were he normally would be, and Suggs would be standing were he would normaly be at. We did that defense in 2004, we had John Abraham stand up.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Jan 13 2007, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT


Too bad that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Tackles can and should be lighter because they go up against defensive ends, not defensive tackles. Defensive ends are usually lighter and faster and therefor you need athletic tackles, especially your blindside tackle. But its ok, you know nothing about football, so all we can do here is teach you.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 08:00 PM

Ferguson will weigh around 320 by training camp. He said that he is going to rest for a week and get away from football then he is going back to work and going a weight program to gain weight and strength.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (HartAttack @ Jan 13 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Too bad that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Tackles can and should be lighter because they go up against defensive ends, not defensive tackles. Defensive ends are usually lighter and faster and therefor you need athletic tackles, especially your blindside tackle. But its ok, you know nothing about football, so all we can do here is teach you.


exactly the bets tackles are usually smaller athletic guys cause Des are smller and athletic. here are the numbers

some of teh best DEs

Freeny 268lbs
mathis 245lbs
kearse 265
abraham 256
peppers 283
burgess 260
schobel 262
taylor 255
van den bosch 278
strahan 255


now some of the best LTs
Roaf 320
Jones 308
ogden 345




brick is 312
Get it done MT
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 04:05 PM

they're a hybrid, they switch between 4-3 and 3-4 by using terrell suggs as a down lineman or linebacker and no way they are a 4-6......ed reed plays way out in center field and he would be their 8th man in the box
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