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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
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25 Evan Oglesby CB
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Post icon  Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:09 PM

Would you guys rather lose for 3 or 4 years straight (not making the playoffs) and try to find/groom a young guy (possibly longer because he'll be working to get there). Or have 10 years that we get into the first round of the playoffs only?

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:17 PM

3 or 4 years of losing to groom a young QB. Assuming that we win a super bowl or at least get to one.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:17 PM

I do not want to root for Favre. Win or lose that's the bottom line.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:19 PM

I want the best team possible every year, and win every year. I don't settle for losing EVER!
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Aug 6 2008, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want the best team possible every year, and win every year. I don't settle for losing EVER!


my sentiments exactly
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 06:15 PM

Well to be true to the question at hand, I'd rather groom the QB and see what happens. I wouldn't want to root for a team that I knew wasn't going to win the Super Bowl for 10 years. That sucks. But that's a hypothetical because we know what the outcome would be with the 10 year deal.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 11:26 PM

Even if this QB we groom for 3 or 4 years turns out to have the arm of Marino, the smarts and accuracy of Montana, the 4th quarter comeback ability of Elway, and the mobility of Randall Cunningham. If you don't have a solid O-line and a strong running game that QB will spend more time on his back than a $5.00 hooker on a Navy ship in the middle of the ocean. So grooming a QB even if he's the greatest of all time doesn't mean we will win a Super Bowl too. Elway didn't win one until he had Terrell Davis, Marino never had one (great RB) and never won a ring too.

Like the lotto, You got to be in it to win it. Think of it this way, 1998 (10 years ago) the Jets were one game away from Super Bowl XXXIII. Now if from 1998 to 2007 the Jets made the playoffs every year that would make the Jets a more attractive place for free agents. Vets who knew they only had a few good years left (guys like Brett Favre) would be more open to coming to the Jets knowing they make the playoffs every year. Their chances of winning a title would be much better. Also your 1st round draft picks wouldn't threaten to do things like play baseball (Elway) or demand a trade (Eli), because the team has a history of making the playoffs. Now granted that means the Jets wouldn't draft early in the first round for 10 years (unless they make a trade to draft higher). But what good has that done the Lions, Browns, and Cardinals (maybe even the Jets) almost every year for 20 years? Drafting high doesn't always translate into success 4 or 5 years later.

Then I'm reminded of a QB that was groomed to be not only be the face of his franchise but the face of the NFL also, but he's sitting in prison right now, Michael Vick. When you draft a guy and groom him you never know what could happen that could keep him from being what you expect him to be. The Falcons put all their eggs in one basket and when Vick fell from grace, all their eggs fell with him and busted. Now they're starting over again with a new coach and new QB they have to groom. All the talent in the world doesn't mean this QB we groom will have a good head on his shoulders or be able to withstand the New York spotlight. He could have run ins with the law or just start to think his own shit smells like roses (i.e. Barry Bonds) and end up having his teammates hating him. Which could cost a coach his job, make another good player(s) run to another team, and just cause havoc and misery in the locker room.

So to answer the question I guess I'll take 10 years of playoff losses, because who's to know what would happen in year 11. My guess is we have a better chance of getting over the hump in year 11 than having a great QB and nothing else in year 5.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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