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Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (26 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) THE CAPS
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
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The Love Affair With The White Tight End

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:09 AM

In the midst of a horrible season, it is common for the seasoned Jet follower to lash out at frustrating idiosyncrasies of the organization that, normally would be tolerated during a competitive season, but now becomes a microcosm of the ineptitude and stubbornly arrogant personnel moves of the organization.

Somebody please explain to me this inherited, twisted love affair with the big, uncoordinated, SLOW, lumbering WHITE TIGHT END? From Kyle Brady to the recent aqcuisition of Doug Jolley, the Jets continue to waste time, money and draft picks on a position and player that quite frankly, does not warrant it.

I know that a couple of years ago, Jolley had a couple of good games against the Jets. Foolishly, like other idiotic organizations (see the Bruce Coslet led Bengals spending their money on the flat footed Neil O'Donnell years ago), the Jets got excited over a player who played well against THEM, not the rest of the league.

See, you want to believe that the people in charge of the team you support know more than you, via football savvy, experience, insider's track, etc. Then you watch these moves they make and you become enraged! These are not isolated incidents, but a culmination of blunders made year after year regardless of who is charge - we got a three year reprieve when Parcells was running the show. (he did draft Becht though - you cannot bat a thousand!)

Now of course, not everyone will agree with the decisions made by the organization. And sometimes, the decisions turn out to be the right ones. I am then man enough to admit that I was wrong and am happy I was! But when certain situations are so obvious, and when my friends call me after the Jolley trade to taunt me, BECAUSE they already know how stupid a move it was, and they don't even follow the Jets, it becomes difficult to digest!

Now the Jets would fire back with these wonderful physical attributes of size, height, speed, etc. etc. Everyone knows what they cannot say: THE WHITE TIGHT END will ALWAYS be average. Yes, there are a FEW, I mean FEW exceptions i.e. Jeremy Shockey. But, if you want a star, a go to guy, then you want someone who can effectively split the SEAM ala Marcus Pollard.

If you want a good blocker, then stick another lineman out there in running situations and call him a tight end! Don't waste picks on a player who is destined to fail because of his skin color!
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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:25 AM

This has to be the most rasist shi-t I have ever heard. Why don't we just say a black man can't be a good QB because he is to stupid. By the way the best tight ends in the game right now Shocky - white, Gonzalaz(granted having a bad year)- Hispanic, and Gates- black.

You are a f-in ignorant bastard to think that just cause a person is black they are better at a position.
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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:39 AM

plus heap and witten are white and are both two of the best TE's in the NFL. And if you didnt notice are starting TE this year was Chris Baker, a black man.
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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:45 AM

Any good points you could have made were lost as soon as you made it a black/white issue. That is ridiculous. What the hell does the color have to do with it? Wake up! I'm locking this idiotic thread before it gets out of control. If you want to say Jolley was a wasted pick, I'll be the first to agree with you, but the fact that he's white has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
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