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Post icon  Posted 22 January 2007 - 06:55 PM

hey guys ,
i'm here in san fran. for a few days , anyway ,
i was listening to the local radio sports shows.
they were talking about how the raiders MAY waive/cut LaMont Jordan ( salary cap issues , etc. ).

any takers ? ? . . . drinks.gif


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Posted 22 January 2007 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (kelly @ Jan 22 2007, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys ,
i'm here in san fran. for a few days , anyway ,
i was listening to the local radio sports shows.
they were talking about how the raiders MAY waive/cut LaMont Jordan ( salary cap issues , etc. ).

any takers ? ? . . . drinks.gif


Nah, I'm glad with what we have, don't wanna go backward.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:01 PM

I'd take him, depending on cash. If he'll come back here for a cheap price, I would welcome him back, otherwise no thanks if he's expensive.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:04 PM

Im not so sure, because he has been injury prone lately, and I guess if Thomas Jones hits the UFA, and if we can land Turner, I rather have both of them then Jordan.
Though, if we had Jordan we would have a pretty good 1-2 punch with Washington and Jordan, and believe me, w/e we do in the offseason on getting a RB, this offense is still going to use Washington, he is too good of a back not to use. He is the homerun threat that we havent had in a while, the type of guy that makes gamechangeing plays, like with that 60 yard screen pass, and also that 40 yard one against the Bills that got our offense going. Leon Washington is a Gamebreaker!!
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:31 PM

We should at least consider it, especially if he wants to come back.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:43 PM

id definitely take him...the power back to go with washington. we'd have a great inside/outside combo. i dont think his price would be too high since he hasnt really done much in oakland, due to injury and a pretty bad supporting cast. (offensive line, cant pass so opponents stack the box against the run etc.) he's also still 28 with almost no mileage on him. getting him would open up our options in a huge way come draft time.

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 23 2007, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
id definitely take him...the power back to go with washington. we'd have a great inside/outside combo. i dont think his price would be too high since he hasnt really done much in oakland, due to injury and a pretty bad supporting cast. (offensive line, cant pass so opponents stack the box against the run etc.) he's also still 28 with almost no mileage on him. getting him would open up our options in a huge way come draft time.


Yeah, why a team would cut a 28 year old is beyond me. Especially when he's not the problem for the team. They need offensive lineman, and a quarterback which they should be getting with their first pick. This franchise really has gotten stupid since making it to the superbowl that one year.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 08:03 PM

If Leon Washington was the #1 all year long, he would have rushed for 1,000 +yds. I'd like to see him do it all year long. We could just draft a bruiser in the middle rounds to compliment him. Tangini said they wan't to build this team through the draft, and RB is a very important position obviously, so I think they do it through the draft. No Lamont return.




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Posted 22 January 2007 - 08:08 PM

yea if washington had started the whole year he may have got 1000 yards but it is also hard to say that he actually could carry the load. he has shared his carries almost his whole carrer...I dont think he can rush for 325+ times a year. that being said Id love to have lamont back . Jordan is a good back and rushed for 1000 with that awful line. Bring him back here with a better line and a better offense and id say he would be a very good back. Him and leon would be excellent. Although he has been injury prone a little i think its stupid for the raiders to cut him because like somone above me said...He is not the problem. Its hard to rush for yardage when no one is afraid of your pass and your O-line is awful....He is a good back and if the price is right id look into it...

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:38 AM

Yea I would definitely be stoked to see Lamont back in Green and White, but for some reason I just don't think Tangini will do it. I think Anthony Clement is a goner and the high profile player they grab will be a right tackle.




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Posted 23 January 2007 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 23 2007, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im not so sure, because he has been injury prone lately, and I guess if Thomas Jones hits the UFA, and if we can land Turner, I rather have both of them then Jordan.
Though, if we had Jordan we would have a pretty good 1-2 punch with Washington and Jordan, and believe me, w/e we do in the offseason on getting a RB, this offense is still going to use Washington, he is too good of a back not to use. He is the homerun threat that we havent had in a while, the type of guy that makes gamechangeing plays, like with that 60 yard screen pass, and also that 40 yard one against the Bills that got our offense going. Leon Washington is a Gamebreaker!!


The Bears aren't going to release Jones and if they want to get rid of him they will trade him, which would cost us at least a 1st rounder. Turner will require a 1st to get too so IMO he's out of the picture.
Jordan wouldn't be a bad option but an equal talent could be found in the first two rounds such as Michael Bush and is a younger, cheaper alternative than Jordan.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 12:53 PM

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE (Swissle @ Jan 22 2007, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Leon Washington was the #1 all year long, he would have rushed for 1,000 +yds. I'd like to see him do it all year long. We could just draft a bruiser in the middle rounds to compliment him. Tangini said they wan't to build this team through the draft, and RB is a very important position obviously, so I think they do it through the draft. No Lamont return.



for this reason doesnt leonard look like the best option. Let leon do a big portion of the work with leonard spelling him, blocking for him, and seeing a ton of redzone action...

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:14 PM

Jordan is too injury proned and wouldn't be worth the asking price. He has had injuries in each season, even as a backup for us. Give me Turner and I will be very happy.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:21 PM

lamont is just way oeverated, when he was with the jets he got a lot of credit running behind curtis but i doubt he'll be as productive running behind leon.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 03:48 PM

if the price was right I would definitely consider it.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:06 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 23 2007, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Bears aren't going to release Jones and if they want to get rid of him they will trade him, which would cost us at least a 1st rounder. Turner will require a 1st to get too so IMO he's out of the picture.
Jordan wouldn't be a bad option but an equal talent could be found in the first two rounds such as Michael Bush and is a younger, cheaper alternative than Jordan.

I could be wrong, but I thought Jones was an UFA this offseason. Even if he wasn't, he wouldn't cost a first rounder. Probably more like a second or third, depending on how eager they are to get rid of him. And I agree that Turner isn't worth a first rounder. I'm not one who really thinks the Jets need a RB early, but I wouldn't mind Michael Bush. He is huge and would be a perfect compliment to Leon.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:37 PM

Thomas Jones could be a UFA, he has a option in his deal, if the Bears want him for another season and he wants to be there then they can go through with the option that will make him a Bear for one more year. Otherwise he could hit the UFA, alot of people think that the Bears may want to just let him go so they can really start running Benson more, and make him the feature back there.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:08 PM




And hell NO to Lamont!! he had is chance. F- him!
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 11:52 AM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 23 2007, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I could be wrong, but I thought Jones was an UFA this offseason. Even if he wasn't, he wouldn't cost a first rounder. Probably more like a second or third, depending on how eager they are to get rid of him. And I agree that Turner isn't worth a first rounder. I'm not one who really thinks the Jets need a RB early, but I wouldn't mind Michael Bush. He is huge and would be a perfect compliment to Leon.


Jones was the better back all season and he has proved more than Michael Turner in the league so if the Chargers get a 1st for him then that sets Jones' value slightly higher IMO although you can't go much migher than a 1st crazy.gif . Even though they have Benson why would they want to get rid of him anyway? It's a similar situation in NO with two highly paid backs and I don't see McAllister or Bush leaving any time soon. A lot of teams are shifting towards having two RBs who share the load and him and Benson were a successful tandem so why should they break it up?
Jones has outplayed Benson so far and got the Bears into the playoffs the past two seasons as the starting RB. Despite having a lot invested in Benson why should they go for him when it has been proven to them that Jones is the better back of the two right now?
I'd rather get a guy like Michael Bush though: younger and cheaper although a bit less talented but at least we won't pay over the odds for him.
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