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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:14 PM) finally made a play on defense once Pryor came in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:15 PM) besides that INT, Geno looks better than last season IMO. seems more comfortable and is going through progressions.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:18 PM) DeMario Davis seems like hes poised to have a breakout season at LB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:50 PM) It was nice seeing Pryor in, he made some plays. I think hes going to be the real deal and that we will hit on a stud with him
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) The pick by Geno seemed to be more on Nelson. Nelson sat on his route. Geno threw it were he was supposed to be.
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
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azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:18 AM

The chatter continues on Tannenbaum
By Dan Leberfeld

Posted Jan 16, 2009

I heard Carl Banks talking today on the radio about the current . . .

"Does Mike Tannenbaum need a personnel guy to come in and help him - maybe," Banks said.

Now Banks wasn't taking a shot at Tannenbaum. He was just bringing up a theory that a lot of people seam to have, that perhaps Tannenbaum is over his head.

I don't think he is. The man has been in the league over a decade. When will the critics allow him to drop the tag of "cap guy" and respect him as a "football guy?"

It's about time for people to realize is now a bonafide football man.

You get the sense there are some personnel guys in the league who resent that Tannenbaum has a GM job and they don't. It seems like in every other issue of Pro Football Weekly, some unnamed scout or personnel director is taking a shot at Tannenbaum.

This is just jealousy at work.

And the concept that the Jets need to bring in some personnel guru to help Tannenbaum is misguided and I will tell you why.

Do people think that he is making personnel decisions on an island? He's got two very capable first lieutenants in Terry Bradway and Joey Clinkscales on the college side, and JoJo Wooden and Scott Cohen on the pro side.

And when the new coach is named, he will have another talent evaluator to lean on.

He's not sitting in his office like some kind of Hugo Chavez figure acting like a dictator and not listening to people.

It's really time for all the questions about Tannenbaum's qualifications to end.

Is he the best GM in the league? No.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:23 AM

If he needs so many guys to "lean" on, then I would think that it is quite possible that the team could have used a GM with experience...


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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:42 AM

Well since Tannenbaum has been GM we have had very successful drafts(sans Gholston), successful trades(Jenkins), and successful free agent signings(Pace, T. Richardson, Faneca, Woody).

Aaaaaaaaannnndddd our cap has been completely under control despite all this spending. What the hell are people bitching about, honestly?
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well since Tannenbaum has been GM we have had very successful drafts(sans Gholston), successful trades(Jenkins), and successful free agent signings(Pace, T. Richardson, Faneca, Woody).

Aaaaaaaaannnndddd our cap has been completely under control despite all this spending. What the hell are people bitching about, honestly?

I don't know, people just like complaining I guess. I don't think hes terrible like others think. I think hes doing a good job as GM. Sure he made a couple of mistakes but every GM has made their mistakes. But he has done more good then bad IMO.


People on here last year were saying how no FA would sign with us because of the Kendall situation and all that shit. Then we end up getting the top line FA pickups. Give me a GM that is good with numbers and is a hard negotiator with good scouts and personnel guys anyday. The way the Jets are set up Tannenbaum is not the almighty ego maniac power guy, he works with others. He believes in a group effort, not one guy demanding shit. Get a good HC that knows what he wants and it works.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 01:40 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aaaaaaaaannnndddd our cap has been completely under control despite all this spending. What the hell are people bitching about, honestly?



The cap may start getting out of control. This season's looking a little tight with the cap.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (GreenRebel @ Jan 17 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The cap may start getting out of control. This season's looking a little tight with the cap.

We will be fine. It looks bad but numbers can be reworked and players can be cut. This is Tannenbaum's strength, the numbers. So we will be fine.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 03:19 PM

Tannenbaum is a beast as a cap guy. As far as a football guy he's yet to impress me. I remember Favre saying that he was the busiest and most hard working GM in the league when they signed him.

Every GM has people to lean on. Terry Bradway is a very good reliable source and same with Clinkscales. No GM is out there making all the calls by themselves. He's surrounded around a pretty damn good team.

No worries here. Not yet anyways.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:35 PM

Maybe its just me & maybe this is something I am thinking is simpler than it is, but all Tanny really has to do is push a lot of the cap money from '09 to '10 without having to worry about repercussions considering 2010 will be a free for all considering it's an uncapped year.

I'm really surprised most teams aren't going into a frenzy already with pushing contracts numbers around to shove most of the money to 2010. It's already too late for a new CBA to be put in place to place a cap on 2010. We are nowhere near as in trouble with the cap as many people think.

If I'm wrong, please someone enlighten me so that I'll know. I am serious with that too. Not being sarcastic.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:02 PM

Mr. T is definatley a hell of a negotiator and money worker, however we don't know how much of the player personnel was Mangini deciding who was good to pick up. Hopefully the front office will change their stance about managing player personnel when Rex gets there b/c that wasn't why the team went down the drain. It was more of the leadership part. And for me I never liked how Mangini never made 2nd half adjustments, but w/e thats all done with now... hopefully

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