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Posted 08 August 2007 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE (choon328 @ Aug 8 2007, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So ur saying race has nothing to do with this issue? That's ridiculous and ur just very uninformed my friend. By the way, just b/c the media portrays Bonds as an a-hole doesn't mean that's how he is. Ur a puppet to the media just like many other people in this world. I'd rather meet somebody in person and decide for myself. I have a brain, I might as well use it.


I can't believe anybody would be stupid enough to write up this paragraph. It's obvious that race has nothing to do with it, and the only reason why no one likes Bonds is because he's an asshole. I can tell you loud and clear that if this was Griffey breaking the record, i'd be applauding him. So there you go. Another black athlete, and i'd be applauding. Don't say that i'm following the media either, because I basically ignore every thing that the media has to say on anything. I really hope that nothing happens to A-Rod, because if and when he leads in the home run category, i'll be thrilled to have that asshole out of the picture.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 01:58 PM

This Record Went From The Best Record In All Of Sports To A Record No One Cares About Anymore. I'm Over It Till A-Rod Breaks The Record. Anyone That Is Foolish To Say This Has To Do With Race Is Retarted. Bonds Brought This Attention To Himself Not Anyone Else. He Used Steriods PERIOD. But This Will Soon Be A Distance Memory. I Dont Suport Cheaters On My Sport Or Any Sport.



If Bonds Had CLASS I Would Of Stayed Away From This Topic. But Bonds Is Forever Loved In San Fran And Hated By The World. I Wish For The Good Of The Sport He Would Admit To His Use Of Steriods It's Oready Knowen That He Did It. Just One Confession He'll Lose Any Respect Anyone Has For That Piece Of Garbage. One Mand Barry Cares About And Its Not His Supports Or Fans. Its HIMSELF.



A Year Ago He Did Not Even Care For This Record And Now He Is Thankful To Having It??? Give Me A Break. God I Can't Wait Till Football Season Starts!!!
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QUOTE (Vilma#51 @ Aug 8 2007, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This Record When From The Best Record In All Of Sports To A Record No One Cares About Anymore. I'm Over It Till A-Rod Breaks The Record. Anyone That Is Foolish To Say This Has To Do With Race Is Retarted. Bonds Brought This Attention To Himself Not Anyone Else. He Used Steriods PERIOD. But This Will Soon Be A Distance Memory. I Dont Suport Cheaters On My Sport Or Any Sport.
If Bonds Had CLASS I Would Of Stayed Away From This Topic. But Bonds Is Forever Loved In San Fran And Hated By The World. I Wish For The Good Of The Sport He Would Admit To His Use Of Steriods It's Oready Knowen That He Did It. Just One Confession He'll Lose Any Respect Anyone Has For That Piece Of Garbage. One Mand Barry Cares About And Its Not His Supports Or Fans. Its HIMSELF.
A Year Ago He Did Not Even Care For This Record And Now He Is Thankful To Having It??? Give Me A Break. God I Can't Wait Till Football Season Starts!!!


Stop Typing Like This Vilma 51 It Is Very Annoying. None The Less I Agree With What You've Had To Say.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:11 PM




















heres barry from his first year in the MLB to his last. I don't see any major difference in his body. He got a LIL bigger like every athlethes does.
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Heres the other ones.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:25 PM

First let me say that I'm not one that has to physically see or hear something to believe it.

Secondly, it would be one thing if he progressively got bigger. Barry never performed like this until he turned 35 years old. You dont just get HUGE at the age of 35. What Barry wasn't lifting the 15 years before that? Come on. Not only that but his head got bigger which is a dead giveaway that someone is on steroids. Not to mention he did all this at the advanced age of 35-40+. Supposedly when McGuire and Sosa stole the spotlight from Bonds the next season he showed up bigger than he ever did. He also hired his buddy to train him that year and said the hit the weights hard. I'm sure they did, with the help of steroids. Turns out that trainer was linked with Balco and is in jail right now. Just turn on Sports Center and see what they're saying. People that are in the know, people that know what the deal is. Baseball did this to themselves because they got greedy which was evident of all the strikes for more money and actively rejecting testing. These users would never test positive because the drugs are so far ahead of the testing it's ridiculous. Supposedly the Balco people "laughed" at it when questioned about it.

It's sad but I question everything in baseball these days. When you can get a guaranteed 200 million to hit homeruns and take a much safer steroid or HGH and become an icon for a while, I'm sure alot of people would do it. I dont know why though because you can't take your money with you when you go. All you have is your life record and your legacy. I'd be disappointed personally at the end of my life.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Aug 8 2007, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't believe anybody would be stupid enough to write up this paragraph. It's obvious that race has nothing to do with it, and the only reason why no one likes Bonds is because he's an asshole. I can tell you loud and clear that if this was Griffey breaking the record, i'd be applauding him. So there you go. Another black athlete, and i'd be applauding. Don't say that i'm following the media either, because I basically ignore every thing that the media has to say on anything. I really hope that nothing happens to A-Rod, because if and when he leads in the home run category, i'll be thrilled to have that asshole out of the picture.


You guys make brood statements about how other people feel. Did you poll every person in the world that doesn't like Barry Bonds to make sure it wasn't because of his race? No you didn't. I can't believe anybody would be as naive and stupid to write what you just wrote. You sound like uninformed idiot. I can say that right since ur able to call people assholes on here. I never pointed out any one person on this site and said that they hate Bonds b/c he's black but in this world we live in today and based on history there are people who feel that way. And it has been reported on ESPN and in other places that Bonds gets racist death threats. Just b/c you would cheer Griffey doesn't mean the racist pigs who gave Aaron a hard time and Bonds by the way, wouldn't give Griffey the same grief. Usually the people who are racist, don't believe it exists. That's a fact.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:30 PM

I just noticed your sig and started laughing. Now I know why you're on the racism bit. Actually, let's cut the name calling because I've already suspended someone today for it and warned others. I dont want to continue doing it because it's a micromanaging pain in the balls.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but we're not attacking people for it. It's one thing to disagree but lets keep the insults out of it.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE (Vilma#51 @ Aug 8 2007, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This Record Went From The Best Record In All Of Sports To A Record No One Cares About Anymore. I'm Over It Till A-Rod Breaks The Record. Anyone That Is Foolish To Say This Has To Do With Race Is Retarted. Bonds Brought This Attention To Himself Not Anyone Else. He Used Steriods PERIOD. But This Will Soon Be A Distance Memory. I Dont Suport Cheaters On My Sport Or Any Sport.
If Bonds Had CLASS I Would Of Stayed Away From This Topic. But Bonds Is Forever Loved In San Fran And Hated By The World. I Wish For The Good Of The Sport He Would Admit To His Use Of Steriods It's Oready Knowen That He Did It. Just One Confession He'll Lose Any Respect Anyone Has For That Piece Of Garbage. One Mand Barry Cares About And Its Not His Supports Or Fans. Its HIMSELF.
A Year Ago He Did Not Even Care For This Record And Now He Is Thankful To Having It??? Give Me A Break. God I Can't Wait Till Football Season Starts!!!


I'm getting kind of sick of people being allowed to call other people names on here, especially b/c they get computer muscles b/c they wouldn't have the you know what to say it in person. Show me proof of the steroid use since ur so smart. Oh wait you can't that's right. Next time write like an adult. This isn't 3rd grade. Some grammar would be nice.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:31 PM

LOL .. Vilma#51 called him "retarted". Seriously guys, chill out and let it go.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:36 PM

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I just noticed your sig and started laughing. Now I know why you're on the racism bit. Actually, let's cut the name calling because I've already suspended someone today for it and warned others. I dont want to continue doing it because it's a micromanaging pain in the balls.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but we're not attacking people for it. It's one thing to disagree but lets keep the insults out of it.


I agree with you. I just added the RACISM thing, I thought it would add a nice touch. I'm not trying to fight with anyone here. It's just so hard to get ur point across in this forum. Don't get me wrong, I love it but people are so stubborn. I believe that their are people who genuinely hate Bonds b/c of his color but I also believe people hate Bonds b/c of his attitude, steroids and nothing to do with color. I'm not personally attacking anybody on this site and saying that people on here are racist but there are people in this world who are and will continue to be. Color plays into everything in life. Whether your white, black, brown whatever you can be a victim of racism. Why is that hard for some people to understand?
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:37 PM

It's like first grade in here. I have a mentally challenged son so I kind of took offense to that.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:40 PM

QUOTE (reg83ny @ Aug 8 2007, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This has been an ongoing issue with Hank. He said it himself that he didn't want to be there. He seems pissed off at every interview. A lot poeple don't like Barry. Hank should remember when it was his turn to break Babe's record, he was also hated too in the worst way. Being on that big screen doesn't change a thing. Shameful. Support the brother. He'll regret not being there. I think its a little being a sour grape and the fact that Bonds used steroid to break that record. I beleive Barry used something. HGH or whatever. He should of been there in person. And where was Bud Selig. Another shameful act..BOOOOOOO!!


You've got to be kidding me. Do you really expect a 73 year old man to put his life on hold, fly all the way across the country from Atlanta to San Francisco just so he could watch somebody else hit a homerun? Did you expect Hank Aaron to follow the Giants around to their away games also if Bonds' didn't break the record in SF? What does Aaron owe Bonds, what does he owe the Giants, what does he owe anybody. He's reitired and if he doesn't want to even watch a baseball game on TV, that's his right.

Some people not wanting Hank Aaron to break Babe Ruth's record and some people not wanting Bonds' to break Aaron's record are two totally different things. The people who didn't want Aaron to break the record didn't want him to because he was black. Aaron was never accused to taking steroids, Aaron never called Bob Costas a midget, Aaron never ignored Al Leiter's autograph request, Aaron wasn't a jerk to his teammates and his fans through out his career. Aaron was born black, Bonds wasn't born a jerk. Hank Aaron does not have sour grapes towards Bonds, in fact I think if Aaron had sour grapes he wouldn't have done that Charles Schwab commercial with Bonds.

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Peeple love Hank Aaron because he was/is a class act. Aaron faced death threats and racial slurs and didn't deserve any of it. Aaron breaking the record has a tulmultous time in his life and we seem to forget that.

Once again Hank Aaron isn't a young ball player anymore and shouldn't have to travel like one either.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:43 PM

Understood and I'm sorry about your son. No one deserves that.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE (ColesReturns87 @ Aug 7 2007, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Congradulations Barry!



I don't want to sound harsh.. It's spelled CONGRATULATIONS, and we all know Barry did roids. he knows it, and so does his trainer and the owner of balco. it'll take time, but the truth will come out.

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 03:00 PM

This is the last thing i'm going to say on this topic b/c it's gettting old already. The year Bonds allegedly started using steroids was prior to the 1999 season. And they started testing after the 2002 season. Those years he was at the age between 34-37 and he averaged 50 homeruns a year. At those same ages Babe Ruth averaged 46 homeruns. Theres basically no difference. It's obviously out of the ordinary for a normal player even a great player but for an immortal player it's not.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (ColesReturns87 @ Aug 7 2007, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agree with Kobeskool Bonds>Hank, just accept it. Can you think of the emotional strength that he has, i mean everyone hates him from speculations alone and he still managed to rehab from bad knees, descrimination and hate, and still got to have this moment, i saw it live and i jumped out my seat, its really exciting to watch history.. Bonds has my total respect, period.

How about being HANK AARON in the RACIST CAPITAL OF THE U.S. He played most of his career in Atlanta, through countless death threats, more threats against his life THAN BONDS. The downright truth his that Bonds is a cheater, and the record books should denote that. The only thing that should be next to Bonds should be a big fat f***ing



20 years down the road when he admits to taking roids all will be well. Theres conclusive evidence that he took roids, none to support a counter argument against that.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE REAL HOMERUN CHAMP, HANK AARON, TWICE THE PLAYER AND TWICE THE MAN THAT BONDS IS, AND IN TEN YEARS OR LESS CONGRATULATIONS TO ALEX RODRIGUEZ ON BEING A REAL HOME RUN HITTER MINUS THE ANABOLICS AND CREAM AND CLEAR.

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 03:29 PM

Yes Barry Bonds broke Hank Arron"s record .Congrats to him!
With that said, Hank Arron was Never accused of cheating by taking roids ! And Yes Barry Bonds is innocent until proven guilty,But Barry Bonds will ALWAYS have the the cloud of suspicion following him that he cheated by taking roids !

Hank Arron, like Micheal Jordan to the NBA, Curtis Martin to the NFL, will ALWAYS mean what is best in Baseball.
And will ALWAYS BE GREATER than a few great pretenders playing pro -sports today!


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Posted 08 August 2007 - 03:53 PM

Hey knuckleheads Bonds trainer is in jail for a reason you know. You don't think that .. that Roid injecting S.O.B never gave any to his most high profile client? get your heads out of your asses fellas.
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Posted 08 August 2007 - 03:58 PM

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Hey knuckleheads Bonds trainer is in jail for a reason you know. You don't think that .. that Roid injecting S.O.B never gave any to his most high profile client? get your heads out of your asses fellas.

Exactly. Youre head stops growing when your in your twenties, in his thirties his hat size grew 6 sizes!!!! HES A f***ing CHEATER

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