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Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
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azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
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ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
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Interesting Stat About Nugent And Other Elite Kickers.

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:00 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 21 2007, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't a redzone attempt from whenever the offense has got inside the 20-yard line. So an attempt where the LOS is at the 20 yard line, probably a 38 yarder, would be counted as a redzone FG attempt?
If so then even if the offense got inside the 20, lost some yards, say to the 25 yard line, and settled for a FG with the LOS from there, that would be a redzone FG attempt.

Nm about that post I miss read him, I read it fast and I just woke up then and I thought he was saying that the redzone is up to the 38 yard line, so I said that no it is in the 20 yard line., but still Nugent only missed 1 field goal on 40+. Also you cant say that Nugent stats would stink if he didnt have redzone shots, because every kicker gets Redzone shots, that is taking like 70% of every kickers field goals.

QUOTE (priortothesnap @ Jan 21 2007, 03:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
20 of his 27 FG attempts this season were from the red zone. Nugent uses an 8-yd snap, so anything 38-yds or less is red zone for him.

They dont count that where the ball is snaped too, they count it from the LOS for how long the field goal is.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:00 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 21 2007, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nm about that post I miss read him, I read it fast and I just woke up then and I thought he was saying that the redzone is up to the 38 yard line, so I said that no it is in the 20 yard line., but still Nugent only missed 1 field goal on 40+. Also you cant say that Nugent stats would stink if he didnt have redzone shots, because every kicker gets Redzone shots, that is taking like 70% of every kickers field goals.


I wasn't discrediting Nugent I was just asking about the redzone FG point. Nugent for the most last season (except Tennessee) made the kicks he needed to make and his % was superb. 88.9% success rate whilst playing half your games in the wind swept Meadowlands is a great feat and shows Nugent is getting accustomed to kicking in such conditions. However if he could land 88.9% of his kickoffs inside the 7 yard line and kick more into the endzone then I'll be happier. cool2.gif
I wouldn't expect his % to stay that high though but if he can keep it around the 85% range the next couple of years I'd be extremely impressed as that's making 17 out of every 20 kicks.
Also who cares that 20 of his 27 kicks or whatever stat it was were kicks from the redzone because it shows the offense is making his job easier and getting into the redzone consistently. If 20 out of his 27 kicks were outside the redzone, yeah it would be more impressive for Nugent but it would mean the offense isn't doing as well.
If Nugent can add 2-3 more yards of leg on his kicks he should be a fine kicker for years to come.

I think I mislead you by saying a redzone kick, the LOS must be in the red zone but the length of kick is determined by where the kick is taken from, not the LOS. For a punt the length is determined from where the LOS is. Redzone kick: LOS must be in redzone, but length is determined from where the holder is.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 21 2007, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Also who cares that 20 of his 27 kicks or whatever stat it was were kicks from the redzone because it shows the offense is making his job easier and getting into the redzone consistently. If 20 out of his 27 kicks were outside the redzone, yeah it would be more impressive for Nugent but it would mean the offense isn't doing as well.


I agree. I mean yeah, I've been one of the most anti-Nugent people here, but that's pretty weak to use that argument against him. If he missed the bulk of those 20 red zone kicks, I would be pissed off...but you can't knock him for where he attempts the FG's because he has no control over that.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:21 PM

Kickers dont have to be good at KOs anymore, alot of teams have kickers that are just good at KOs, so we probaly should go after one. Nugent showed that he was good at kicking field goals. Though Nugent may not get many TBs he does kick in inside the 10 like every time. He just needs to work on getting his leg stronger, I expect the Jets trainers to get his legs stronger. If he isnt good then at KO, then I expect them to sign a KO specialist.

Oh and Smeds, I was talking about the other guy in that post, just the first line or so was to you. And I checked it on a highlight, and counted the yards to the LOS and to where the ball is snaped, and it was the LOS where they counted it.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:35 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 21 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kickers dont have to be good at KOs anymore, alot of teams have kickers that are just good at KOs, so we probaly should go after one. Nugent showed that he was good at kicking field goals. Though Nugent may not get many TBs he does kick in inside the 10 like every time. He just needs to work on getting his leg stronger, I expect the Jets trainers to get his legs stronger. If he isnt good then at KO, then I expect them to sign a KO specialist.

Oh and Smeds, I was talking about the other guy in that post, just the first line or so was to you. And I checked it on a highlight, and counted the yards to the LOS and to where the ball is snaped, and it was the LOS where they counted it.


The only problem with getting a KO specialist is that it will take up one extra roster spot perhaps for a guy who is solid on STs or someone who can step in for an injured guy. I know teams like Denver use it and Indianapolis and Dallas did when they had Vanderjagt but that's only because there kickers weren't good on kickoffs so they were forced into doing it rather than doing it out of preference. I'm sure Mike Shanahan would rather have Elam rather than Ernster on kickoffs and be able to have another player in his place on the roster.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:01 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 21 2007, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only problem with getting a KO specialist is that it will take up one extra roster spot perhaps for a guy who is solid on STs or someone who can step in for an injured guy. I know teams like Denver use it and Indianapolis and Dallas did when they had Vanderjagt but that's only because there kickers weren't good on kickoffs so they were forced into doing it rather than doing it out of preference. I'm sure Mike Shanahan would rather have Elam rather than Ernster on kickoffs and be able to have another player in his place on the roster.

Thats true, thats why I hope he gets his leg stronger. The guy I wish we had for KOs, is the Jaguars kicker, Schobe, or what ever his name is. He kicks TBs like every time! Hes a beast!
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:29 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 21 2007, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nm about that post I miss read him, I read it fast and I just woke up then and I thought he was saying that the redzone is up to the 38 yard line, so I said that no it is in the 20 yard line., but still Nugent only missed 1 field goal on 40+. Also you cant say that Nugent stats would stink if he didnt have redzone shots, because every kicker gets Redzone shots, that is taking like 70% of every kickers field goals.


Who said Nugent's stats would stink? Didn't I say 85.7% was still good? You know, I realize you're just a teenager, and I'm really trying to be nice here, but I don't have time to be your daddy and teach you stuff, especially if you're not willing to listen or even THINK a little, because frankly it's not my job. Maybe the internet is killing education these days, because too many of you have the attention span and reading comp skills of a chihuahua. It's painfully sad, and makes these forums suck. You guys should stick to the kiddie board .....seriously.


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They dont count that where the ball is snaped too, they count it from the LOS for how long the field goal is.



Errr, REALLY? Who's "they?" If the ball is on the 20, you're IN THE RED ZONE. The kick is a 38-yarder. My point was we're not scoring enough TDs in the red zone. BTW, a 20-yard FG means the ball is at the 2-yd line. You knew that, of course....
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:42 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 21 2007, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thats true, thats why I hope he gets his leg stronger.


I think in Nugent's case, he needs to put on more weight, more lower body muscle so he can hit the ball like a sledgehammer instead of a croquet stick.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:48 PM

QUOTE (priortothesnap @ Jan 21 2007, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who said Nugent's stats would stink? Didn't I say 85.7% was still good? You know, I realize you're just a teenager, and I'm really trying to be nice here, but I don't have time to be your daddy and teach you stuff, especially if you're not willing to listen or even THINK a little, because frankly it's not my job. Maybe the internet is killing education these days, because too many of you have the attention span and reading comp skills of a chihuahua. It's painfully sad, and makes these forums suck. You guys should stick to the kiddie board .....seriously.
Errr, REALLY? Who's "they?" If the ball is on the 20, you're IN THE RED ZONE. The kick is a 38-yarder. My point was we're not scoring enough TDs in the red zone. BTW, a 20-yard FG means the ball is at the 2-yd line. You knew that, of course....


The argument here is about Mike Nugent and perhaps you're the one that needs to grow up a bit. Yeah us teenagers like me, 0099, ChadforPres and a few others may be a little naive at times but nobody around here knows it all and everyone's entitled to their opinion so just put up with it.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:41 PM

QUOTE (priortothesnap @ Jan 21 2007, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who said Nugent's stats would stink? Didn't I say 85.7% was still good? You know, I realize you're just a teenager, and I'm really trying to be nice here, but I don't have time to be your daddy and teach you stuff, especially if you're not willing to listen or even THINK a little, because frankly it's not my job. Maybe the internet is killing education these days, because too many of you have the attention span and reading comp skills of a chihuahua. It's painfully sad, and makes these forums suck. You guys should stick to the kiddie board .....seriously.
Errr, REALLY? Who's "they?" If the ball is on the 20, you're IN THE RED ZONE. The kick is a 38-yarder. My point was we're not scoring enough TDs in the red zone. BTW, a 20-yard FG means the ball is at the 2-yd line. You knew that, of course....


#1) i'm warning u. no personal attacks.
#2) the kick is 17 yards longer then the LOS. not 18. 10 for the endzone, and 7 for the snap. so it would be a 37 yarder or less would be from the red zone
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:44 PM

This thread is about Mike Nugent. He made all of his kicks except for 3 this year. Why are we talking about them scoring TDs in the red zone? Can you blame Nugent for the offense not getting TDs? He does his job when called upon and was extremely successful this year. Am I missing something?
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 21 2007, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
#1) i'm warning u. no personal attacks.
#2) the kick is 17 yards longer then the LOS. not 18. 10 for the endzone, and 7 for the snap. so it would be a 37 yarder or less would be from the red zone


#1) Warning accepted. However, everytime I make a perfectly valid point, some uneducated pube flies out of his bunk and creates an unwarranted, and unnecessary argument based on misreading, misconstruing, and misinforming.......for what? The joy of arguing? Then they accuse ME of arguing. Man, it's totally a drag, and it never seems to end. My first visit here, just prior to the WC game, was ruined by the same BS. The personal attacks weren't initiated by me, I just reacted to them. The proof is all there.

#2) A seven yard snap is textbook only. Nugent uses an eight yard snap. I thought I made that clear. If you don't believe me, go look up any play-by-play record of any Jets game this season. Just don't bother with Weeks 3, 4, 5, or 11. He made no attempts then.


QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 21 2007, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This thread is about Mike Nugent. He made all of his kicks except for 3 this year. Why are we talking about them scoring TDs in the red zone? Can you blame Nugent for the offense not getting TDs? He does his job when called upon and was extremely successful this year. Am I missing something?



Yes.

And the explanations were already given elsewhere in this thread.

Again, who's blaming Nugent for anything other than his kickoffs?
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (priortothesnap @ Jan 21 2007, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
#1) Warning accepted. However, everytime I make a perfectly valid point, some uneducated pube flies out of his bunk and creates an unwarranted, and unnecessary argument based on misreading, misconstruing, and misinforming.......for what? The joy of arguing? Then they accuse ME of arguing. Man, it's totally a drag, and it never seems to end. My first visit here, just prior to the WC game, was ruined by the same BS. The personal attacks weren't initiated by me, I just reacted to them. The proof is all there.

#2) A seven yard snap is textbook only. Nugent uses an eight yard snap. I thought I made that clear. If you don't believe me, go look up any play-by-play record of any Jets game this season. Just don't bother with Weeks 3, 4, 5, or 11. He made no attempts then.
Yes.

And the explanations were already given elsewhere in this thread.

Again, who's blaming Nugent for anything other than his kickoffs?

Dude, I dont know what your so upset about, but you have a anger problem. Take a chill pill.
Now, I may have been wrong about the kicking shit, but that doesnt mean that I am misinformed all the time. I never played kicker before, and frankly I dont pay to much attention to it, because its not a huge part of the game. I can guarentee you though, that I am not as "misinformed" on every other postion, besides punter in football. But talking about taking redzones shots out to lower their field goal % is a weird way to look at things, since that does make up like almost all of the field goal attempts in the NFL. As Im writeing this the Pats just scored a TD DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ps. about me misreading what you said, I already deleted that post a while ago, as soon as I read Smeds post and relised I miss read it, but come on every one makes mistakes, there no need to call people morons or w/e. So dont act like I made a huge arguement when I didnt read it clearly, because I deleted that post. If you have a problem with my age, and with anyone else who is a teenager, then maybe you just shouldnt read half of the posts on the board, or maybe a forum message board isnt for you. Because there is no age limit on this site, and there is plenty of teanagers that may be smarter or knows just as much as you.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 10:12 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 21 2007, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dude, I dont know what your so upset about, but you have a anger problem. Take a chill pill.
Now, I may have been wrong about the kicking shit, but that doesnt mean that I am misinformed all the time. I never played kicker before, and frankly I dont pay to much attention to it, because its not a huge part of the game. I can guarentee you though, that I am not as "misinformed" on every other postion, besides punter in football. But talking about taking redzones shots out to lower their field goal % is a weird way to look at things, since that does make up like almost all of the field goal attempts in the NFL. As Im writeing this the Pats just scored a TD DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ps. about me misreading what you said, I already deleted that post a while ago, as soon as I read Smeds post and relised I miss read it, but come on every one makes mistakes, there no need to call people morons or w/e. So dont act like I made a huge arguement when I didnt read it clearly, because I deleted that post. If you have a problem with my age, and with anyone else who is a teenager, then maybe you just shouldnt read half of the posts on the board, or maybe a forum message board isnt for you. Because there is no age limit on this site, and there is plenty of teanagers that may be smarter or knows just as much as you.

on a lighter note: if u think about it punters play a big part of the game actually, if u dont have a good punter the other team gets good field position and can easily score
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 10:14 PM

special teams is very important
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 10:20 PM

Yea I know, but kicking is not the largest part of football.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 11:40 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 22 2007, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea I know, but kicking is not the largest part of football.


But without it you're points per game average is going to decrease by upwards of 3 points per game which would be pivotal and in the field position battle there is a lot at stake as good field position could be the difference between the other team gaining points or your defense forcing a punt. However without a good offense or defense your not going to go anywhere either. Therefore IMO you could say all three sectors of the game are as important as each other.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 21 2007, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea I know, but kicking is not the largest part of football.


Obviously not the most important but it's the difference between making the big games. Needless to say, how many kicks have been the deciding point in AFC Championships and Superbowls? A whole hell of alot. They're more important than you're giving them credit for.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 03:24 PM

When your watching football, do you watch it for the kickers and punters?????
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 03:37 PM

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When your watching football, do you watch it for the kickers and punters?????


Not really but they are positions that fans take for granted. We don't really notice them unless they make a mistake or win a big game with a kick but they are overlooked. They are basically the no name guys with a big job.
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