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ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (04 March 2015 - 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:48 AM) Vince Wilfork will be a FA. Pats will not pick up his $8 million option. Looks like they are gearing up to keep Revis.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:35 AM) Bears shopping Marshall for a mid round pick
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:31 PM) What does his contract look like? Offer a 7th conditional 6th if we do something if the $$s are right.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:37 PM) He is almost due 9.6 million this year and has 2 years left. He is defiantly better than Harvin although a little older @ 30
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:55 PM) I'd rather sign Maclin or Cobb and then draft a WR early
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:55 PM) I am not real big on Cobb. I think he is a poor mans Harvin. Living in WI I watch most Packer games. He does have talent and he is a good receiver but without Rogers he will not be very good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:27 PM) looks like David Harris will go to the Bills, and I'm fine with that. Hes getting older and declining.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) i guess davis takes the MLB spot then pace on one side. who is on the other? barnes
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) babin maybe?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) coples moves to DE, richardson to DT, snacks at DT and wilk at DE
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:59 PM) its too early to tell. Our roster is not anywhere near where it will be come opening day.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:00 PM) Couples has had the most success when he was in a 4 man front though.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:19 PM) no
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS NOTHING BUT CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:30 AM) Read that the Dolphins think they'll sign Suh
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:30 AM) But the Raiders are expected to meet with him and have a ton of cap space
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:30 AM) The Raiders will probably pay huge money to him
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For Those Who Want Adalius Thomas along with other ideas about FA

#21 User is offline   VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs Icon

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Posted 19 January 2007 - 08:43 PM

Willie Mcginest is old. He's just not the player he used to be. Asante Samuel, on the other hand, is just entering his prime. It is possible he was a product of the system, but I think he just has a lot of upside.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 04:44 AM

your right though guys samuels is much younger and for some reason doesnt quite get the respect he deserves right now in the league for being as good as he is and hopefoully mangini being his former DB coach will keep him at that level that he's playing now............... mcginest did show his age alot this year too..................their linebackers right now with the exception of colvin could all collect social security but some how they defy their age.......something belichick puts in their gatorade?..............The main thing though that always stuck out to me looking at the leonard was that his team basically drafted him to be the D-Brick of their franchise except with even more upside than D-Brick and he never got close to living up to that potential......to me that stands out as underachieving which always is something that could infect a team and which is what in my opinion really hurt that cardinal o-line...But i think a change of scenery could help him turn around his career which has worked for plenty of other athletes......and giving up a draft pick would hurt us considering the depth that is in the draft this year
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE (tipceey @ Jan 20 2007, 05:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
your right though guys samuels is much younger and for some reason doesnt quite get the respect he deserves right now in the league for being as good as he is and hopefoully mangini being his former DB coach will keep him at that level that he's playing now............... mcginest did show his age alot this year too..................their linebackers right now with the exception of colvin could all collect social security but some how they defy their age.......something belichick puts in their gatorade?..............The main thing though that always stuck out to me looking at the leonard was that his team basically drafted him to be the D-Brick of their franchise except with even more upside than D-Brick and he never got close to living up to that potential......to me that stands out as underachieving which always is something that could infect a team and which is what in my opinion really hurt that cardinal o-line...But i think a change of scenery could help him turn around his career which has worked for plenty of other athletes......and giving up a draft pick would hurt us considering the depth that is in the draft this year


Yeah he seems to have a bit of a work ethic problem...so I perfectly understand that argument. But I think he is miscast as left tackle. In my opinion, he is the perfect run blocking right tackle.

The Cardinals line really did improve towards the end of the year...and most of that can be attributed to moving Reggie Wells to RT and plugging rookie Deuce Lutui in at G...but I also think that part of it may be due to Matt Leinart becoming the QB...thus switching which side the pass rushers come from as he is a lefty QB. So that makes the right side the blind side and, in essence, makes the left side the running side. It's a stretch, but I really think that helped.

And also, as you said, you don't have a lot of picks this year, so I really don't want to give up draft picks for a RFA in a draft that is probably even deeper than last year...I mean this draft has crazy talent all the way through the thir round!!!
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 11:48 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 20 2007, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah he seems to have a bit of a work ethic problem...so I perfectly understand that argument. But I think he is miscast as left tackle. In my opinion, he is the perfect run blocking right tackle.

The Cardinals line really did improve towards the end of the year...and most of that can be attributed to moving Reggie Wells to RT and plugging rookie Deuce Lutui in at G...but I also think that part of it may be due to Matt Leinart becoming the QB...thus switching which side the pass rushers come from as he is a lefty QB. So that makes the right side the blind side and, in essence, makes the left side the running side. It's a stretch, but I really think that helped.

And also, as you said, you don't have a lot of picks this year, so I really don't want to give up draft picks for a RFA in a draft that is probably even deeper than last year...I mean this draft has crazy talent all the way through the thir round!!!


That's exactly how I feel about this offseason. There is no point going after a guy like Michael Turner who will probably cost a 1st rounder and a huge contract when you could get a back like Michael Bush in the 2nd round with a relatively cheap first contract. The same with Starks. RT isn't as important money-wise than LT where we invested heavily in DBrick last year and having to give up a pick as well as another huge deal would be a waste when there are bound to be serviceable starters available in FA and the draft. Clements IMO didn't doo too badly this past season but obviously there is no harm in upgrading, but not if we are going to overpay hugely for a guy.

Rather than give up picks for RFAs or any player for that matter, I'd rather look to secure one or two more picks throughout the draft and with two 2nd rounders there is leverage for us to do just that as there certainly will be teams offering to jump up a few places due to the talent available in the draft.
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