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Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 03:48 PM) whatever that means
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 03:59 PM) Some talk that Dennard might slide to round 2 now
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:00 PM) Roby and Fuller are rising.
Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:00 PM) Roby absolute physical freak but really inconsistent as a player
Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:01 PM) loved him going into school but never grew into the player i thought he would become
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:01 PM) I don't want Roby, afraid we take him
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:01 PM) f***ing draft should be this week, not 2 weeks from now
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:02 PM) I rather go get a CB like Phillip Gaines in round 3.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:02 PM) 1-Odell Beckham Jr WR, 2-Jace Amaro TE, 3-Phillip Gaines CB.
Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:04 PM) Where is Marcus Roberson being projected
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:05 PM) round 2 I think
Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:06 PM) he'll be a solid pro
santana Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:18 PM) solid pro
santana Icon : (22 April 2014 - 04:19 PM) boston. strong.
Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 06:14 PM) you're a clown
Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 06:14 PM) just for the record
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 06:27 PM) FIRE RAUL
Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 06:30 PM) agreed
Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 06:30 PM) EJ > Raul
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 06:38 PM) lmao
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 06:38 PM) I wouldn't go that far
Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 06:39 PM) true
Jetsman05 Icon : (22 April 2014 - 06:39 PM) but its closer by the day
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santana Icon : (22 April 2014 - 08:52 PM) SANTANA DESERVES BETTER
santana Icon : (22 April 2014 - 08:56 PM) Just landed in Reagan jumping on the wizards bandwagon taxi right out the gate
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:47 PM) Tanaka looks good so far
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 03:45 PM) The title race is REAL
canuckfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:36 PM) Teh Raptors!!!!!!!!!!
canuckfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:37 PM) Let's go Habs!
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 05:18 AM) Pineda looks good so far
santana Icon : (Today, 07:18 AM) Pineda solid pro
santana Icon : (Today, 07:19 AM) Pineda went Boston strong on Boston
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:57 AM) He has, except he is stupid for putting the shit on his neck. He has to hide that better.
Chaos Icon : (Today, 09:14 AM) @Bischoff_Scott: Per a source, the #Lions are having discussions about moving #Suh before the draft to move up as high as possible in the first round.
Chaos Icon : (Today, 09:14 AM) now that would be a fairly big move
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 09:46 AM) If they trade Suh to get Watkins, I would laugh. That doesn't really make their team better, they already have a high yardage passing attack
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 09:47 AM) They have the best WR in football and they signed Tate who will be a excellent #2 to Johnson
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Post icon  Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:09 PM

Would you guys rather lose for 3 or 4 years straight (not making the playoffs) and try to find/groom a young guy (possibly longer because he'll be working to get there). Or have 10 years that we get into the first round of the playoffs only?

I'll tell you guys why I'm asking this as people respond.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:17 PM

3 or 4 years of losing to groom a young QB. Assuming that we win a super bowl or at least get to one.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:17 PM

I do not want to root for Favre. Win or lose that's the bottom line.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:19 PM

I want the best team possible every year, and win every year. I don't settle for losing EVER!
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Aug 6 2008, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want the best team possible every year, and win every year. I don't settle for losing EVER!


my sentiments exactly
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 06:15 PM

Well to be true to the question at hand, I'd rather groom the QB and see what happens. I wouldn't want to root for a team that I knew wasn't going to win the Super Bowl for 10 years. That sucks. But that's a hypothetical because we know what the outcome would be with the 10 year deal.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 11:26 PM

Even if this QB we groom for 3 or 4 years turns out to have the arm of Marino, the smarts and accuracy of Montana, the 4th quarter comeback ability of Elway, and the mobility of Randall Cunningham. If you don't have a solid O-line and a strong running game that QB will spend more time on his back than a $5.00 hooker on a Navy ship in the middle of the ocean. So grooming a QB even if he's the greatest of all time doesn't mean we will win a Super Bowl too. Elway didn't win one until he had Terrell Davis, Marino never had one (great RB) and never won a ring too.

Like the lotto, You got to be in it to win it. Think of it this way, 1998 (10 years ago) the Jets were one game away from Super Bowl XXXIII. Now if from 1998 to 2007 the Jets made the playoffs every year that would make the Jets a more attractive place for free agents. Vets who knew they only had a few good years left (guys like Brett Favre) would be more open to coming to the Jets knowing they make the playoffs every year. Their chances of winning a title would be much better. Also your 1st round draft picks wouldn't threaten to do things like play baseball (Elway) or demand a trade (Eli), because the team has a history of making the playoffs. Now granted that means the Jets wouldn't draft early in the first round for 10 years (unless they make a trade to draft higher). But what good has that done the Lions, Browns, and Cardinals (maybe even the Jets) almost every year for 20 years? Drafting high doesn't always translate into success 4 or 5 years later.

Then I'm reminded of a QB that was groomed to be not only be the face of his franchise but the face of the NFL also, but he's sitting in prison right now, Michael Vick. When you draft a guy and groom him you never know what could happen that could keep him from being what you expect him to be. The Falcons put all their eggs in one basket and when Vick fell from grace, all their eggs fell with him and busted. Now they're starting over again with a new coach and new QB they have to groom. All the talent in the world doesn't mean this QB we groom will have a good head on his shoulders or be able to withstand the New York spotlight. He could have run ins with the law or just start to think his own shit smells like roses (i.e. Barry Bonds) and end up having his teammates hating him. Which could cost a coach his job, make another good player(s) run to another team, and just cause havoc and misery in the locker room.

So to answer the question I guess I'll take 10 years of playoff losses, because who's to know what would happen in year 11. My guess is we have a better chance of getting over the hump in year 11 than having a great QB and nothing else in year 5.
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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
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