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Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 01:15 PM) anyone know anything about CB Kareem Jackson?
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 01:15 PM) FA from Houston. Obvious Mac connection.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 02:33 PM) NO TO MEVIS NO TO MEVIS
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:26 PM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:26 PM) FIRE BOWLES
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:26 PM) CONSTANT TURNOVER
azjetfan Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:43 PM) I think we need to fire more people. Like Justin Beiber
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 04:22 PM) Kareem Jackson is a decent player, I would rather go elsewhere for CB though> He has been a streaky player, some bad seasons some good
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:23 PM) THE KNICKS
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:43 PM) @AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Bills have notified LB Kiko Alonso he is going to be traded to Philadelphia for RB LeSean McCoy. Trade official next week.
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:43 PM) WOW. Rex is gearing up for ground and pound.
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:44 PM) Jets can sign Spiller now but they're going to need a new LB. Rex is gunning for David Harris.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Jets should trade Harris to Minnesota for Minnesota for AP
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 09:48 AM) Vince Wilfork will be a FA. Pats will not pick up his $8 million option. Looks like they are gearing up to keep Revis.
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Mock Draft V1 No Trades, (just regular order)

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 10:37 PM

guys how is 19 a downside?............he was a beast in college at 19 and is going to get bigger............19 is a blessing and he'll play right away
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 01:46 AM

Thanks for all your input guys, in a month I will work on Version 2.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 11:31 AM

Good mock and pretty realistic too. Good job JC!

If that is how things went for the Jets it would be a toss up between Okoye and Moss and both would definitely fill two of our biggest needs. However I'd prefer Okoye as he could contribute right away, whilst continuing to develop as, as Vandelay says, at 19 he is four years behind most players physically and because Moss would have to change position although he is a great prospect.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah...that reason is because they're still in college...

Okoye may be the first player to ever be drafted at 19 years old...

He has had four years of starting...is already 317 pounds of MUSCLE...and already has good on field production...

Of course he'll be better in 3 or 4 years...I would hope so...and of coure he hasn't reached his potential...these are all givens.

What I'm saying is he can start his rookie year...he is not an unpolished prospect...he is an unfinished prospect. Big difference here...a guy like Louis Leonard will be drafted on potential because he is a 350 pounder. But a guy like Okoye is being drafted because of potential and production. He is already good, what makes him scary is he has so much more room to develop. If Okoye wasn't already a good player...he wouldn't be considered a first rounder. You wouldn't draft a guy simply based on being 19 years old. What makes Okoye so intriguing is he already produces on the field...and he still has so much room to grow!!!

So my point is...he can likely start his rookie year...and yes...he will hopefully get even better and even bigger in the following seasons!!!


See, it's a fact of life that one's body will continue to develop. Vandelay's point has nothing to do with four years of starting experience. No one is arguing he has experience. BUT, IT IS ASANINE to say that he will not be at a disadvantage if he were to start at 19 years old in the NFL. Yea, he'll have some success. But his body will be 3-4 years from where it needs to be.

19 year olds are not as physically developed as 22 year olds. If has nothing to do with playing time. It has to do with how long you've been on the planet, thus giving you more time to develop your physique. Therefore, I guess I agree with both parties here. Okoye will be able to produce some his rookie year, but I wouldn't expect a lot. However, the upside is through the roof.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 01:45 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 18 2007, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good mock and pretty realistic too. Good job JC!

If that is how things went for the Jets it would be a toss up between Okoye and Moss and both would definitely fill two of our biggest needs. However I'd prefer Okoye as he could contribute right away, whilst continuing to develop as, as Vandelay says, at 19 he is four years behind most players physically and because Moss would have to change position although he is a great prospect.


I'd be happy with either guy. I would be happy with Moss because I'm a gator fan, and I know this guy will be good. The other Gator I believe will be good is Reggie Nelson, and the sleeper I believe will be the wide reciever, Dallas Baker. Moss would look good in Gang Green, but I don't think he will because I think he'd prefer to stay at end. I actually at first had us drafting Moss, but then I changed it to Okoye.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 01:59 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Jan 17 2007, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, I believe he'll start his first year, because we'll be moving Robertson to End. Then the front 7 would look like:

DE Robertson
NT Okoye
DE Ellis

OLB Thomas
ILB Vilma
ILB Barton
OLB Hobson


THIS IS A SOUND UNIT,LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER,EVEN BETTER IN REALITY
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:11 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 17 2007, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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The point is that people grow between 19 and 23. You can't just look at his size and say "he's over 300 lbs. He must be fully developed." The guys still growing. There's a reason that the NFL has always had the rule that guys can't just go straight to the NFL out of high school. It's because typically, guys who are 19 shouldn't be playing with the monsters in the NFL. This guys is huge, but that doesn't mean he's ready to just come in and start right off the bat.

but the thing is
he has the size and starting expierence of any other senior
he can start like other rookie dt and grow while starting

basically what im saying is hes no different then any other rookie dt except he will grow even bigger
the only reason you cant play in the nfl right out of high school is because you dont have the size and bulk but as you grow you gain it
he already has the size and bulk and will just grow even further





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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:26 PM

Alright I did a little research here on the age thing


Okoye birthday --6/10/1987
Nfl Draft date April 2007

Robertson Birthday 10/16/1981
Robertson Drafted April 2003

So doing a little math we can see that

Robertson at draft date 258 months old
Okoye at draft date 238 months old

Thats 20 months difference or about 1.5 years.
Robertson started all 16 games in his Rookie year.

So If Okoye is as good as Robertson at the worst we would see Okoye midway through his second year. Thats really not to bad. More than likely he would start in his first year maybe not right away. He will be 20 two months after the draft its not as crazy as everyone is making it out to be.
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