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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Is Vinny A Hall Of Famer

#41 User is offline   ellisjersey92 Icon

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 08:31 PM

this guy is unbelievable...he is going to say that everyone who disagrees with him (almost everyone here) isnt a real jets fan and he is? thats ridiculous. and u guys can take his terrible posts and chalk it up to writing style all you want, but if u call someone a faggOt, then atleast spell it right. not one intelligent thing has come out of you in this entire thread and you need to stop before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself.

by the way...you remind me of a certain poster named nyjf. what happened to him when he came on blindly insulting people and looking for a fight? banished to the celler thats what lol.....

like the 12 YEAR OLD (who has shown 10 times the maturity of you so far) said, you can potentially add to this site like everyone else, but start now by ending all the insulting and respond to people intelligently. whether that be with specific stats, and just general comparisons or whatever. just change this around.

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:29 PM

NO I dont think Vinny is a Hall of Famer but I think this topic should be closed before this gets more personal then it already is.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:41 PM

I had enough of this. I'm banning him for 30 days to start. Let him take the 30 days to grow up a little.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:49 PM

QUOTE (ronnydynamic @ May 15 2005, 09:16 PM)
I had enough of this.  I'm banning him for 30 days to start.  Let him take the 30 days to grow up a little.


What a let down, he is my favorite member now. SMC, you are a pretender and you need to go.

Oh dear...I really can't stop laughing, this is the best thread ever. Some sad, rainy day when nothing is going right...I'm going to come back to this thread and by the time I read through it all...I'll be so sprite as to jump in their air and click my heels!
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 05:21 AM

But what, really, I don't get it.
So Vinny goes, he was starting to get lousy in Chad's absense, and goes to the Cowboys.We still love him and I do.
So Laveranues Coles goes, he was peaking, the best of his carrer was starting to show, and along with it Pennington's ability was shown to the world. It seems all of you then would've loved to murder him, he was the worst guy on Earth, I could tell from the old site when I was just reading all your threads as a guest and then joined. So why love Vinny and he goes when he is starting to get lousy, and hate Coles when he is peaking?
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 06:54 AM

Vinny left because he was released. Coles left for money. He was offered a contract. Vinny didn't leave because he got a better deal in Dallas.

That being said...you can't fault Coles for leaving. He went with the money. I wasn't happy, and I hated him, but I think that anyone would have done the same thing in that situation. If you don't think Chad would have left if the Jets didn't offer him what he was worth and another team offered MORE than he was worth, then you're crazy.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 07:03 AM

Well his first year there Coles played like he deserved that money. But Coles wasn't resigned, something he coulda easily been, but the Redskinds just offered a contract so huge that it was too late. The Jets should've gotten him long before the Skins offered the contract, but all that matter is he's back.
Vinny wasn't really as great as he was also, so he had to get released, he did kinda screw the 2003 season in the beginning, I mean it wasn't entirly his fault, we had the injuries everywhere.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 07:29 AM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ May 16 2005, 08:38 AM)
Well his first year there Coles played like he deserved that money. But Coles wasn't resigned, something he coulda easily been, but the Redskinds just offered a contract so huge that it was too late. The Jets should've gotten him long before the Skins offered the contract, but all that matter is he's back.
Vinny wasn't really as great as he was also, so he had to get released, he did kinda screw the 2003 season in the beginning, I mean it wasn't entirly his fault, we had the injuries everywhere.

Coles didn't so anything spectacular his first year. I don't even think he played. He didn't do anything until his 3rd year (2002). He was drafted in 2000. He was offered a contract, the redskins offered him a bigger contract, and the jets opted not to match it.

Vinny started to go downhill at the begining of 2002. That is the year Chad broke out during and after the Jacksonville game.

But the point is, you asked why there is a lot of love for Vinny and a lot of annimosity toward Coles. The simple answer is that Coles left for the money, Vinny left because he wasn't retained by the organization.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 07:41 AM

In first year I went in Wahington, he pretty much duplcated 2002 with less yards and more catches.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 09:49 AM

like a few of you said....I love vinny, we had some good times with him, but realistically he is not a hall of famer. Look at the Hall of fame QB's...namath, unitas, tarkenton, bradshaw, the new ones marino and young...you cant really put vinny on that list.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 10:03 AM

also, does vinny even have a job yet?
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:59 PM

Nope, never, aint gonna happen. Vinny might of had some awesome games, but his stats suck (INT ratio is HORRIBLE) and he was never a dominant player.

Does anyone remember the Dallas game last season when Vinny was like on the 5 yard line at the end of a losing game and threw an INT that went ALL THE WAY BACK FOR A TD? Well that idiot assho1e lost me my fantasy game because of that! I remember saying all that Vinny has to do is NOT throw an INT for a TD and I will win this week, but with 3mins left to play what does he do? Telegraphs the F'N BALL to the TE! Stupid idiot. That's why he will never be in the hall of fame. He has probably thrown more INTs that went for TD's then anyone ever!
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 04:05 PM

Fancy little statistic for ya's.

TD's to INT's
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Vinny: 268/255 career rating of 75.4- That's almost a 50% ratio. Very bad.
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Manning: 216/120 career rating of 92.3 - That is a great ratio. Very good. He has nearly thrown as many TD's in 8 years as Vinny did in 18 :shok:.
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Favre: 376/226 career rating of 87.4 - :shok: Thats a whole hellovalot of TD's. His ratio as well is pretty damn good. I dont care what anyone says about him, Favre is a dominator and one of the best QB's to ever play.
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Young: 232/107 career rating of 96.8 / Rushed for 43 TD's. :shok: That's a hall of famer right there. He holds the record for 6 TD's passed in the Superbowl. Not bad for a player that entered the supplemental draft!
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Montana: 273/139 career rating of 92.3 / 4 Rings! / Best QB ever! 'Nuff said!
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Marino: 420/252 :shok: career rating of 86.4 / career passing leader in attempts, completions, and yards. Was for TD's until Manning beat him out by 1 TD.
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I hope you can see the compared stats for HOFer's and Vinny Testicles.
He has alot of yards because he has played for a very long time, but also he is one of those guys that lives and dies by the deep ball. He has a "balls to the wall" attitude. "Live or Die". Whatever phrase floats your boat, that is his whole MO. Half of the time he will throw a TD and the other half he will throw an INT. No way in hell is he Hall Of Fame material ... why is this even a discussion?
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 04:52 PM

YES he is going to get thare.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 08:39 PM

In my opinion, Jetson, you're an ass. I respect everyones opinion, and I agree with you that he is not going to Canton. But Vinny is a class-act, and a Jet at heart. I have been listening to you disrespect a man who has brought us the closest to a Superbowl since Joe and has done a lot of great things for this organization. Vinny Testicles? Are you in 5th grade?

Part of the reason (admittedly not all of it) was the fact that he has been on INCREDIBLY horrible teams. When he took over the Jets had finished 2-14 (or was it 1-15) the previous year. He played for the Browns and the Bucs in their early years. Stats do not tell the whole tale. If you want to live and die by stats, Namath would have never made it to Canton either.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 08:49 PM

Jets0n, what the hell is with Vinny Testicles? That isn't funny, that is just plain retarded right there.
VinnyTheGinny, Namath would never have made it to Canton with the stats he had is what you said, and what you said is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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ooooooooooooooo to true. He never even finshed top 10 in any passing catagory for his carrer, now he did become the first with 4,000 yards, but Maynard ans Sauer were great guys to throw to. Vinny is in the top 10 in yards, has thrown for 4,000 yards with worse recievers, so really Vinny should go in, but of course we never woulda knew what Joe woulda done if it hadn't been for his knees.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 09:01 PM

Vinny is not a Hall of Famer just drop it
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:22 PM

LOL ... jets0n is how it is spelled dude! Anyway, if you can't take a joke then you need to remove whatever is lodged in your ass! You are the one with a racial slur in your name. Yeah that's right ginny, being Italian I probably should care but I dont cause I have a sense of humor. You know the old verbage, "he who casts the first stone". Very hypocritical of you to bust my balls for saying Vinny Testicles when you're name is calling Vinny a ginny.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 11:00 PM

I'm locking this topic due to kids not playing nice. crazy.gif
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