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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:03 PM

I am going to take the lead on this one, but everyone is more than welcome to chime in and contribute your nutrition, workout, general health, specific health questions... thanks ronny and stay healthy!
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:34 PM

for anyone that lifts...right now when i go to the gym i do the back and bis, chest and tris type thing, but ive heard of people doing bis and tris and then back and chest...the opposites. if anyone does anything like this, can u let me know what u do and your results.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:35 PM

Just do this, I'm a practicing dieter for the past 2 years. After you eat, exercise, don't do the Atkins diet, all it does is increase your chance of stroke or heart attack, not to mention you gain the weight back in a short period of time, so in order for it to do you any good you have to stay on it, just making heart attack and stroke knocking on your door. Not to mention it can still make you fat, and only eat meats once or twice a week, take it from a 68 pounder.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:39 PM

on the atkins diet note... all the atkins diet does is promote a fatter, less active society. carbs are the complex sugars that are our energy. if anyone plays a sport, a lot of times, there are pasta dinners for teams, or you are encouraged to eat starches before games. when you cut out carbs, you might lose weight, but you will have absolutely no energy. not to mention, carbs wouldnt be bad at all if people would get off their asses and work them off a little bit each day.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:49 PM

I've been working out on and off for the last 25 years. Your workout all depends on the amount of time you have. That coupled with eating the right amount of protein is key. You need a minimum of 1 gram per pound of your weight on a daily basis to gain any mass. That's a minimum. I try for a gram 1/2. I try to work out 4 or 5 days a week and take off on the weekends. I hate a crowded gym. :-)

Workout (1) Hit a body group each day and rest the weekends. If I do this, I kill those groups with 3 or 4 sets of all out punishment, minimum.
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Workout (2) Chest, Shoulders Tris on Mon & Thurs, Back, Bi's Legs on Tues & Friday. Wednesday I do cardio and abs with abs mixed in each day after my workout.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:54 PM

The Atkins and lo carb diets are great for losing weight but horrible for working out. You just don't have the energy from the lack of carbs. What I find works best is eating your carbs early int he day and stop by dinner.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ May 16 2005, 04:10 PM)
only eat meats once or twice a week, take it from a 68 pounder.



If you want any bulk, forget that eat meat twice a week thing. If you do that, you'll end up being a 68 pound adult too. crazy.gif
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 04:37 PM

it all depends on what you are training for...

atkins will make you skinny in your casket...

the bis/tris workout is very effective because you work antagonistic muscles... with any workout, you shoul dnot do it mor ethan a month or two... some you may not want to do for more than a week... the problem with bis/tris is if you do too much of that some of the workouts use each other, especially if you slack on your form... so have perfect form biggrin.gif if you can... and work opposite muscle groups like chest/back or bis/tris but only sparingly... it is a very effective way...
supersets are also very good to push your muscles, this means you do supplemental exercises like bench then lat pulldowns with no rest in between... then you take about one set worth of rest and keep going with it... always let your muscles rest or they cant grow... ideally you should eat before and after a workout (something as small as raisins... kill free radicals which develop cancer and impede the muscle building process)

i have way too much to say on this, so i am gonna have to slow down and get more specific... ill get back to you guys in a few

the best weight room exercise you can do that sooo many people do not is the squat... it increases testosterone level which helps build muscle along with many other positive effects wink.gif

the best exercise for you body in general is swimming because it puts almost no stress on your joints and you get a great workout... but you dont feel like you sweat... its weird but the best exercise for anyones body

then there is activity specific workouts which i will try to get into later... but you know what that means biggrin.gif
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 05:34 PM

For those of whom it isn't too late to do this, start good eating habits as a kid. biggrin.gif Also, whwn you order a salad, ask for the dressing on the side, and don't eat things you saw on TV as it's being eatedn, you'll more likely do that, making you the size of a hot air ballon.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 05:45 PM

it is never too late to start healthy eating... mean health for example constantly has stories about people who lost ridiculous amounts of weight when they had some kind of epiphany... bottom line is eating healthy is possible at any given time, you just have to be willing...

as far as dressing, it is a dangerous thing, because people assume salad is healthy but a mcdonalds salad with dressing cna be worse for you than a big mac... also dont worry about dieting because if you eat right 90 percent of the time you can afford to splurge the other 10...
back to dressings, try to use oil and vinegar (extra virgin olive oil is the best) or lemon is excellent, there are many recipes for making healthy dressings without fat... blue cheese and ranch are two of the worst for you and anything alfredo is ludicrously fattening... dont eat it!

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 09:05 PM

thanks for the info on the antagonistic stuff...ive had good results with the back and bis thing...but if i understood you guys correctly, i can only benfit from changing up.

and about squatting...i love squatting. i play football and that is the most important exercise by far in football. up to 5 x 5 of 265 of box squats biggrin.gif , with my 6'2" long ass legs...

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 08:24 AM

you will benefit from doing one thing... just that you may end up overworking a muscle group or neglecting other ones... i know for football you need every muscle, so get every muscle strong from your toes to your eyelids to your pecs...
plus if you keep doing the same routine you will eventually hit a plateau, so to break out of that and/or avoid it altogether switch it up... use that height man, like i have said in other threads, i wish i had that, dont take it for granted...

as far as the box squat it is a good way to get your form right, but i would also make sure you work deep squats to get a full range of motion in your joints and help avoid injury... also power cleans are a great way to work on explosion, if your team doesnt do those already they should look into that and the bigger, faster, stronger system (which is where box squats and the dot drill were introduced to me)...

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 09:20 AM

thanks...yea we do cleans...we have a power day which is push press, (shoulder press standing up and using legs) hang cleans and dead lift.

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:38 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ May 16 2005, 04:09 PM)
for anyone that lifts...right now when i go to the gym i do the back and bis, chest and tris type thing, but ive heard of people doing bis and tris and then back and chest...the opposites. if anyone does anything like this, can u let me know what u do and your results.


Hear is my routine: Day 1: Chest , Day 2: Back, Day 3: off, Day 4: Shoulders and Traps, Day 5: Arms both bicep and triceps Day 6: Legs Day 7: off.

And not for the kids out there, but for the adults, I know it is illegal now but 1-AD I took a 4 week cycle, I gained 15 lbs from it, and only 5 lbs water weight, so that is 10 lbs of solid muscle in a month. I was pretty satisfied with it. And the only side effect that I had with it was after I was done taking it my sex drive was practically gone, like I didn't even think about sex, but after 2 weeks I was back to normal.
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