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Jetsfan115 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 02:52 PM) any CBs that are decent on the trade block or facing salary cuts?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:00 PM) I wouldnt cut Hill watch him go to NE and turn into Randy Moss
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) I'm just glad there aren't anymore greedy bastards on the team to deal with
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) Or street thugs
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) f*** a CB problem
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2014 - 03:49 PM) need 1 more in the fantasy league
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 08:33 PM) Dimitri suspended for the rest of preseason. I'm sorry, I know we are bone dry at corner these days but they should have cut this prick on the spot . He's going to get torched regardless this year and I'd rather cut ties with any potential cancerous attitutudes before the season even starts.
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 08:34 PM) Where I come from you take responsibility for your actions. Not showing up for a game is cowardly and selfish. f*** him
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 08:36 PM) Also he doesn't know what the acronym AWOL means so he's also an idiot. No wonder he's never been anything but a journeyman corner is this league.
azjetfan Icon : (26 August 2014 - 09:11 PM) So how do you really feel?
RetireChrebet Icon : (26 August 2014 - 11:18 PM) I think my last three posts pretty much summarize how I feel haha. He's making 1.5 mill this year and no call no shows because his feeling are hurt. Would rather you play corner azjetfan than this guy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 August 2014 - 08:12 AM) Need 1 more for FFB!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 08:39 AM) Stephen Hill is going to get cut, guy sucks. Greg Salas is a better football player and deserves a spot over him
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 11:27 AM) So when do we show up to 115s house with pitchforks, tar and feathers?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 12:03 PM) i'd rather see idzik go then hill. fire idzik
bleedsgreen Icon : (27 August 2014 - 12:21 PM) Hill is such a disappointment. I really was hopping for so much when he scored 2 TDs his first game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 August 2014 - 03:11 PM) We need to get the J-E-T-S chant back this year to the way it was
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 August 2014 - 03:13 PM) idk if any of u guys went to any of the games last year[Im sure some of u did] but im not a fan of the drumline leading the chant
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 August 2014 - 03:14 PM) its not the same as 70,000 people doing it during every kickoff and after every score
Jetsfan115 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 05:43 PM) injuries and poor QB play aren't good for a WR to develop
Jetsman05 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 06:08 PM) 115 and Hill. Lol!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) the excuses, Hill is just a terrible football player. no debate, just a fact. guy is soft as shit as well
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 AM) right cause all our other WRs were lighting it up
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:04 PM) Hill is useless bro lol
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:05 PM) All I can say I streamed this game and if anyone thinks about recording it from NFL Network at 4pm Eastern Saturday.....DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:07 PM) This game was pure sh1t. Even though it was back up players the Jets got totally destroyed in this game. After seeing this game Im really worried about the Jets starting core because these backup guys looked like they shouldn't have even been on the field at all. I just hope the starters are 3000 times better than these guys that played in game 4
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) The Jets got horse f*cked by the Eagles in this game.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:24 PM) we are hosed in the secondary
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
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Who Do We Draft In The First Round

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:17 PM

SO we've had all this talk about drafting Tight ends, offensive and defensive lineman, db's, and tweeners. Now the question becomes who do the jets draft in the first round in April. What do you guys think because I have no idea.

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:23 PM

I want them to draft Jarvis Moss. He would be a good pick for us, 6-6 height and runs fast.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:32 PM

i think it will be Lamarr Woodley
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:35 PM

woodley, moss. are great choices, but if okoye is around which he probably wont be i would take him too
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 21 2007, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want them to draft Jarvis Moss. He would be a good pick for us, 6-6 height and runs fast.


iagree.gif Moss is the shit. If not Moss then perhaps Michael Bush dependant on his combine or Carriker if he falls or Okoye.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:52 PM

it is very obvious what our PRIMARY need is for this team. however, who we draft depends on what we do in FA. our primary need is obviously dline. whoever does not think this is not educated enough to have a valid opinion. if we improve our dline, whether it be through FA or the draft, it will improve our run defense, our pass rush, and our pass coverage. if we build improve our dline, not only will vilma have less blockers on him, our pass rushers have more room to get to the QB because our DEs and NT will be taking up more blockers. there have been 2 main theories so far:

1. pick up an NT through FA and move robertson to DE. the problem with this theory is 2 fold.
a. can robertson play DE in the 3-4?? usually DEs are 6'4 and up because they have to match up against much taller OTs and robertson might not be tall enough and his arms might be too short to create separation from these guys.
b. who do we pick up in FA? everyone is saying terdell sands bc he is 6'7 335 lbs which is huge but is he fit to play NT? does he even have the leverage to play that position? what makes you think he can do it since he does not even start as a DT on the raiders? how do we know whether or not we will even be able to get him with other teams courting him? no way we should get in a bidding war with another team looking to improve their dline for an unproven guy like sands.

2. draft a DE and keep robertson at NT. dewayne has already spent a year learning this position and has vastly improved. now it depends on whether the front office thinks he is good enough to keep learning this position or whether it was just a 1 year hold over task before replacing him. i think we should just keep him at NT since he was doing quite well and just draft a DE to replace kimo. this would keep him inside where the shorter and stockier players are present.

now obviously, if branch, carriker, and anderson are all gone (these are the best 3-4 DEs) then we will probably go with the best OLB and fill our DE need with atkins or francis later in the draft. it all depends on what the front office thinks we need, as well as what we do in FA, and who is still on the board by the time we pick. i personally would like to see a carriker, bush, OLB (pray that woodley/spencer falls), but i wouldn't be upset with a moss, bush, atkins draft either.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:57 PM

Er...since Lynch probably won't fall to 25, I suppose Jarvis Moss. Question..would anyone here be against trading down if we feel we can still get the guy we want and pick up another pick or 2 along the way
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHellfighterNYC @ Jan 21 2007, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Er...since Lynch probably won't fall to 25, I suppose Jarvis Moss. Question..would anyone here be against trading down if we feel we can still get the guy we want and pick up another pick or 2 along the way


i don't think we really need to trade down because we already have those 2 2nd rounders. we are in a difficult spot because though the draft is deep, we need immediate starters at a few positions. these positions are mainly DE, OLB, and RB. now if we trade down, we are losing the chance to lock up these positions. what good is it to trade down out of the first round and now have 3 2nd rounder, and an extra 4th?? those picks probably won't give us immediate starters moreso than just staying where we are right now. if we had a team that didn't have many IMMEDIATE needs and just wanted to draft depth that could come along in a couple of years, then i think that would be a great idea, but considering our situation of needing immediate help, we probably shouldn't.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:41 PM

QUOTE (Fatman @ Jan 21 2007, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SO we've had all this talk about drafting Tight ends, offensive and defensive lineman, db's, and tweeners. Now the question becomes who do the jets draft in the first round in April. What do you guys think because I have no idea.

I think it's just way too early to say. First, it depends what they do in FA. We all seem to agree that d line is the biggest need, but if they find a big NT in free agency, d line probably won't be their main focus. Second, so much can happen between now and the draft. A guy that we're looking at could light up the combines and end up going top 10. That's what Dewayne did. He was projected as a late rounder before the combines and he ended up going fourth overall. I think we'll have a much better idea after the combines.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:42 PM

GARRET WOLFE!!! He's the answer guys...fast and shifty as hell...we definitely have to nab him in the first round before some other team pounces on him!
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 03:49 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 21 2007, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
GARRET WOLFE!!! He's the answer guys...fast and shifty as hell...we definitely have to nab him in the first round before some other team pounces on him!


hurricane, u know we already have leon washington. we need a power back like bush to complement him.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 03:53 PM

my big board...
1.alan branch
2. marshawn lynch
3. jarvais moss
4.lamar woodley
5. justin blaylock.

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:15 PM

QUOTE (jhsensation10 @ Jan 21 2007, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hurricane, u know we already have leon washington. we need a power back like bush to complement him.


Sarcasm...I would flip a shit if we drafted that midget!
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:15 PM

QUOTE (penningtonpays @ Jan 21 2007, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
my big board...
1.alan branch
2. marshawn lynch
3. jarvais moss
4.lamar woodley
5. justin blaylock.

Lynch and Branch aren't going to happen, I don't think we'll trade up and get them. I see woodley and moss and possibilities in the first round.

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE (Fatman @ Jan 21 2007, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lynch and Branch aren't going to happen, I don't think we'll trade up and get them. I see woodley and moss and possibilities in the first round.


thats why its called a big board...

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Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE (Fatman @ Jan 21 2007, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lynch and Branch aren't going to happen, I don't think we'll trade up and get them. I see woodley and moss and possibilities in the first round.


If you want Woodley save your first rounder and get him in the second...
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 21 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sarcasm...I would flip a shit if we drafted that midget!


haha ok.. there are a ton of unrealistic people on this site that do not know much. didn't expect that you were serious.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 05:53 PM

trade drob for a 1st or 2nd

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26th -

Adam Carriker
DE | (6'6", 290, 4.85) | NEBRASKA

Scouts Grade: 90
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Strengths: Possesses outstanding size and good quickness for his size. Is tall, well-built and powerful. Shows adequate initial quickness and good agility for such a bigger DE prospect. He plays with adequate leverage and shows the base to take on blocks versus the run. He takes solid angles in pursuit and has become a reliable wrap-up tackler in space. Also is a powerful hitter. Shows good instincts as a pass rusher. Displays a wide array of power moves and is relentless in pursuit. Not a speed-rusher type off the edge, but he is productive because of his quickness, power, versatility and motor.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal top-end speed. Does not show the speed or closing burst to consistently turn the corner as an edge rusher in the NFL. Is a power-end type that will only fit well in certain schemes. He must continue to improve his hand-usage in order to consistently disengage quicker.

Overall: Carriker was redshirter in 2002. He played in nine games in 2003, missed three games with an ankle injury, and finished the year with three total tackles, one tackle for loss, and one sack. In 2004, he appeared in 10 games (eight starts), missed more time with an ankle injury, and recorded 36 total tackles, seven tackles for loss, and three sacks for the season. Carriker then started all 12 games in 2005 at "base" defensive end, made 43 total tackles, 17 tackles for loss, 9.5 sacks, and forced one fumble earning First Team All-Big 12 recognition from the Associated Press.
With an impressive combination of size and agility, Carriker has always been supremely talented but finally showed signs of reaching his full potential as a junior. If he can take his game to the next level as a senior, Carriker could come off the 2007 draft board as early as the second round.

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Michael Bush
RB | (6'1", 251, 4.6) | LOUISVILLE

Scouts Grade: 89

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Strengths: A big, powerful and fast prospect with premier running back potential in the NFL. He possesses great straight-line speed and agility for his size. He shows good initial burst but also displays patience as a runner. His vision is excellent and he does a very good job of changing direction in the backfield in order to hit the developing backside hole. Great feet for his size. When he runs with adequate pad-level he can run through defenders. He also has enough speed to consistently turn the corner as an outside runner. He's a versatile athlete that was recruited to play quarterback out of high school. He possesses good athleticism and hand-eye coordination. He looks smooth when catching the ball out of the backfield. Shows reliable hands and flashes the ability to pluck the ball on the run, as well as away from his body. He has experience working out of the slot and split out wide. Is an outstanding route-runner for a running back, especially for his size. He has ideal size and strength to handle blocking responsibility at the next level. Also shows willingness in blitz pickup.

Weaknesses: Durability is now a pressing concern following season-ending broken leg injury as a senior. He also missed two games (Rutgers, Syracuse) due to injury in 2005. He possesses great speed for his size, but he's not going to run away from NFL defenders as frequently as he does at the collegiate level. He lacks ideal elusiveness and will struggle to make defenders miss as frequently in space at the next level. Runs too high at times. Needs to show more consistent pad-level and also needs to add a better stiff-arm move to his repertoire. Conditioning and stamina can improve. Can use some technique work as a blocker. Has the tools to be outstanding in this facet but needs to refine angles and show more consistent leverage at the point of attack.

Overall: Bush arrived at Louisville in 2003, played in all 13 games that season, four of which he started. He carried 81 times for 503 yards (6.2 average), scored six touchdowns, and caught 17 passes for 240 yards and one touchdown. As a true sophomore in 2004, Bush played in all 12 games (three starts) and rushed for 743 yards on 132 carries (5.6 yards per carry) with seven touchdowns, while adding 11 receptions for 155 yards. Bush also threw a 48-yard touchdown pass versus TCU. In 2005, Bush played in 10 contests, started eight, and missed two games with a foot injury. He rushed 205 times for 1,143 yards (led the Big East), averaging 5.6 yards per carry and set a Louisville school record for rushing touchdowns with 23. He also made 21 receptions for 253 yards and one touchdown. Bush suffered a season-ending broken tibia in Week 1 (vs. Kentucky) of the 2006 season.
Bush has the option to medical redshirt in 2006 and return to Louisville next fall, but he is expected to forgo that option for the 2007 NFL draft. Prior to the injury he was considered the premier running back prospect in the 2007 class. When healthy, Bush's versatility and speed for such a big back are what separate him from most others at his position. However, his injury typically requires a six-to-eight month recovery period, which means he'll be cutting it close in terms of rehabbing for in time to workout for NFL scouts. There also are concerns regarding Bush's eating habits, which could lead to serious weight and conditioning problems during the recovery process.

If Bush can avoid that pitfall and expedite his rehab, there's still a chance that a team gambles on him late in the first round. At this point, however, it's a safer bet that Bush comes off the board in the second round.

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58th - this guy might be around for our 3rd but just to make sure we get him.

Louis Leonard
DT | (6'4", 353, 5.25) | FRESNO STATE

Scouts Grade: 52
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Strengths: A massive DT/NT prospect with impressive height and bulk. Displays good initial quickness for his size. Is a wide-bodied defender that is capable of tying up blockers in a two-gap scheme. He displays good overall strength and the ability to anchor at the line of scrimmage. Can occasionally be effective as a pass rusher because of quickness and power. He will show the ability to occasionally drive the lineman back into the pocket with powerful bull rush move. He plays with a solid motor on the field, so long as he gets proper rest.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal experience and is an unpolished prospect. Must learn to use his hands more effectively and disengage from blocks quicker. Will wear down quickly and needs to be in a heavy rotation to be effective. Weight can become an issue and will always need to be monitored. He does not possess good athleticism and he won't make a lot of plays in space. Gets good penetration for a player his size, but does not show closing burst to the quarterback. Also lacks many moves as a pass rusher and does not show a lot of creativity in that regard.

Overall: Leonard was redshirted in 2002 before appearing in nine games during the 2003 season, when he recorded five total tackles, one tackle for loss, and one sack. In 2004, he saw action in nine games (three starts), missed three games with an ankle injury, and finished the year with 11 total tackles. Leonard played in 12 games in 2005, finishing with 26 total tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, 2.5 sacks, and one fumble recovery for the season.
Leonard is a second-day prospect in the 2007 draft class because of his size and potential, but not because of his collegiate resume. The massive two-gap DT/NT prospect must improve his technique and overall consistency in order to warrant consideration in the first four rounds.

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with the extra pick from drob get -

Josh Beekman
OG | (6'1", 314, 5.37) | BOSTON COLLEGE

Scouts Grade: 83
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Strengths: Possesses excellent size. Is a thickly built mauling type of interior, offensive lineman. Engulfs undersized defenders at the point of attack and can wear defenders down over the course of the game. Does a good job of locking onto the defender's frame, plays with a wide base and can sustain blocks. Takes good angles to blocks, plays under control in space and can get into position at the second level. Gets adequate knee bend in pass set and rarely gives ground to bull rushers. Shows good awareness, keeps his head up and does an adequate job of picking up blitzes as well as line stunts. He has shown some versatility playing guard and center during his collegiate career.

Weaknesses: Doesn't have an explosive first step, doesn't show great footwork and is going to have problems preventing penetration working against one-gap defenders. Foot-speed is lacking, has problems redirecting inside after starting outside and is vulnerable to double moves. Doesn't deliver a violent initial punch, doesn't roll his hips into blocks and isn't going to knock defenders back. Lacks ideal range, doesn't cover downfield well and may need to shed some weight in order to gain some quickness. Ideal playing weight is under 320 pounds, but he has ballooned to 340 pounds at points during his collegiate career.

Overall: Beekman was redshirted in 2002. He saw action in all 13 games in 2003, was plugged into the starting lineup twice, and played on special teams registering two tackles. In 2004, Beekman took over as the starting right guard for the entire season (12 games). He once again started all 12 games at right guard in 2005. Beekman started all 13 games as a senior in 2006; 10 at guard and three at center.
Beekman is a far better run blocker than he is a pass blocker but he has the size and enough athletic ability to develop into an every-down starting offensive guard in the NFL. He also showed some versatility playing center as a senior. Beekman projects as one of the top-five offensive guard prospects in this year's class and should come off the board no later than the third round.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 05:57 PM

i dont think we need to draft offensive line this year
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 05:59 PM

i wanted that guard for the future replacement of pete kendall
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