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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 09:48 AM) Vince Wilfork will be a FA. Pats will not pick up his $8 million option. Looks like they are gearing up to keep Revis.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:35 AM) Bears shopping Marshall for a mid round pick
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 12:31 PM) What does his contract look like? Offer a 7th conditional 6th if we do something if the $$s are right.
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 12:37 PM) He is almost due 9.6 million this year and has 2 years left. He is defiantly better than Harvin although a little older @ 30
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:55 PM) I'd rather sign Maclin or Cobb and then draft a WR early
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 02:55 PM) I am not real big on Cobb. I think he is a poor mans Harvin. Living in WI I watch most Packer games. He does have talent and he is a good receiver but without Rogers he will not be very good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:27 PM) looks like David Harris will go to the Bills, and I'm fine with that. Hes getting older and declining.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:56 PM) i guess davis takes the MLB spot then pace on one side. who is on the other? barnes
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:56 PM) babin maybe?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:57 PM) coples moves to DE, richardson to DT, snacks at DT and wilk at DE
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 03:59 PM) its too early to tell. Our roster is not anywhere near where it will be come opening day.
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 04:00 PM) Couples has had the most success when he was in a 4 man front though.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:19 PM) no
santana Icon : (Today, 05:45 PM) CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS NOTHING BUT CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS
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The Broncos Did Their Homework So much for 13-3...paper champions

#1 User is offline   Camenzind Icon

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:30 PM

Some observations about the game:

The Broncos clearly did their homework, studying the film of the New England game. The following is two glaring weaknesses of the Jets:

1. OFFENSE: The Jets perimeter game is lacking. Coles and Cotchery simply CANNOT get separation from corners in one on one coverage. Consequently, Favre has to restrain himself from throwing his beloved go routes because they get picked off EVERYTIME. This deficiency clearly stunts the potential of the rest of the offense. This game is all about mismatches. Other than Keller and Washington, we have a difficult time creating them. Clowney obviously does not have an adequate grasp of the offense or he would be on the field. The Jets love that empty backfield shotgun formation. Teams rarely blitz Favre in this situation. If I was a defensive coordinator, I'd blitz the shit out of him. Why? The Jets don't have a blitz beater outside. In fact, I rarely see a safety roll over to either Coles or Cotchery on go routes.

2. DEFENSE: Contrary to popular belief, you CAN run on the Jets. It must, however, be from the SPREAD formation. The Jets do not have the talent to combat underneath routes run by tight ends and running backs. Once again, we were tortured by slip screens, quick outs and short square in routes. Also, we have a weak pass rush. That's right, you read correctly. The Jets amassed a lot of sacks early in the season via blitzes. They do not have one guy that can get to the quarterback on his own. Ghoulston was suppose to be that guy. He has not produced.

For the past couple of weeks, I kept quiet. After the Tennessee win, I was afraid the Jets would get fat on their recent success. The New York papers barely discussed the Broncos this week. It was all about the playoffs. Bad sign right there.

Now we travel cross country to San Francisco. It will be imperative for the Jets to get up early and ride Jones the whole game. Be worried...be very worried.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:40 PM

You hit the nail on the head Camenzind! I am not feeling too confident about any of the 4 remaining games, i am thinking 2-2 finish, wildcard loss and a return to comfort as a jets fan
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE (wildchildsixx @ Nov 30 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You hit the nail on the head Camenzind! I am not feeling too confident about any of the 4 remaining games, i am thinking 2-2 finish, wildcard loss and a return to comfort as a jets fan


agree%100

today brought everyone down to reality as to what this jets tream really is. the denver broncos showed us all what a playoff team looks like. This is what the ny media gets for even thinking they could mention the jets and super bowl in the same sentence.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:49 PM

You left out the part that our jumbo OLBs can't cover TEs.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 08:52 PM

Look we can't win them all. I love how all the darksiders rear their ugly heads after a loss.

Why should we be afraid of the 9ners?.. I'm not worried at all. The niners are going to be dealing with a pissed off Jets team. They should be worried. David Harris will be back.. The Pats loss makes this loss more tolerable.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Nov 30 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look we can't win them all. I love how all the darksiders rear their ugly heads after a loss.

Why should we be afraid of the 9ners?.. I'm not worried at all. The niners are going to be dealing with a pissed off Jets team. They should be worried. David Harris will be back.. The Pats loss makes this loss more tolerable.



I mostly agree, I don't look past any west coast trip but I think they will get things in order this week, this is their first loss since mid October, the sky is not falling. NO loss is good but I think the timing of this one is.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Nov 30 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look we can't win them all. I love how all the darksiders rear their ugly heads after a loss.

Why should we be afraid of the 9ners?.. I'm not worried at all. The niners are going to be dealing with a pissed off Jets team. They should be worried. David Harris will be back.. The Pats loss makes this loss more tolerable.


It never changes. When we win, everyone's thinking Super Bowl while complaining that the media's hyping us up too much. And when we lose, everyone's thinking season's over and still complaining about media.

We lost, it happens... winning 7 out of 9 including an overtime win versus a team we can never beat.. as well as beating—wait, no—killing the only undefeated team left [both on the road] isn't a sign we're good?

No, we get beat in a sloppy game and that's it—pack it in!

It doesn't really matter none, we could have won 9 in a row and lost to the Dolphins to end the season, and even if it didn't mean anything I'd be reading a thread that says we're not going anywhere in the playoffs cuz blah, blah, blah.

When this happens I'm really reminded of a guy who goes to the same sports bar as me. When Leon's running a kick back for a TD, or Favre's throwing a 50 yard TD pass, he just sits quietly, almost like hes uninterested.

But as soon as there's a Jets penalty or an Int, this guy's flipping shit like he owns the team. Some people need to invert their attitudes.

We lost to a team that played better than us. Now we need to go to San Fran and play better than another team, and as extremely crazy as it will sound to 75% of the Jets fans out there, I'm going to root for the Jets to succeed, while expecting them to do so at the same time.


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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:13 PM

QUOTE (Maynard13 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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It never changes, when we win, everyones thinking Superbowl while complaining that the medias hyping us up too much and when we lose, everyone thinking season over and still complaining about media.

We lost, it happens... winning 7 out of 9 inculding a Overtime win vs a team we can never beat as well beating, wait no, killing the only undefeated team leaft[both on the road] isn't a sign were good? No, we get beat in a sloppy game and thats it, pack it in. It doesn't really matter none, we could have won 9 in a row and lost the the Dolphins to end the season and even if it didn't mean anything I'd be reading a thread that says were not going anywhere in the playoffs cuz blah, blah, blah.

When this happens I'm really reminded of a guy who goes to the same sports bar as me. When Leons running a kick back for a TD, or Favres throwing a 50 yrd TD pass, he just sits quietly, almost like hes uninterested. But as soon as theres a Jets penalty or a Int, this guys flipping shit like he owns the team. Some people need to invert their attitudes.

We lost to a team that played better than us, so now we need to go to San Fran and play better than another team, and, as extremely crazy as it will sound to 75% of the Jets fans out there, I'm going to root for the Jets to succeed, while expecting them to do so at the same time.



Good post bro.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE (Maynard13 @ Nov 30 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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It never changes, when we win, everyones thinking Superbowl while complaining that the medias hyping us up too much and when we lose, everyone thinking season over and still complaining about media.

We lost, it happens... winning 7 out of 9 inculding a Overtime win vs a team we can never beat as well beating, wait no, killing the only undefeated team leaft[both on the road] isn't a sign were good? No, we get beat in a sloppy game and thats it, pack it in. It doesn't really matter none, we could have won 9 in a row and lost the the Dolphins to end the season and even if it didn't mean anything I'd be reading a thread that says were not going anywhere in the playoffs cuz blah, blah, blah.

When this happens I'm really reminded of a guy who goes to the same sports bar as me. When Leons running a kick back for a TD, or Favres throwing a 50 yrd TD pass, he just sits quietly, almost like hes uninterested. But as soon as theres a Jets penalty or a Int, this guys flipping shit like he owns the team. Some people need to invert their attitudes.

We lost to a team that played better than us, so now we need to go to San Fran and play better than another team, and, as extremely crazy as it will sound to 75% of the Jets fans out there, I'm going to root for the Jets to succeed, while expecting them to do so at the same time.

drinks.gif Well said!!
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 10:37 PM

Not stressing that much.

1. Weather was a game changer
2. We needed a loss to WAKE UP the team and bring them down a notch....in case they were getting high on themselves
3. David Harris is back next week....should help shore up run D
4. Walked away healthy from a poor condition field
5. Will make us work hard in the next 4 games
6. Pats got the clocked cleaned by Pitt
7. We play San Fran, Seattle & a fading Buffalo at home in the next 3. Will allow us to continue to fine tune
8. While a big weakness was exposed.....how many teams have the likes of a Marshall, Royal, Stokley, Scheffler, & Graham....not many. I am ok with it


Bottom line...we ARE a good team. Just need to refocus for the playoff run. Everyone has a clunker in them...we just had one. No reason to freak....just continue to practice hard and game plan for next week. This team HAS the ability to go far.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 11:31 PM

we didnt match up well with the broncs.

our secondary needs to step it up. those underneath routes murdered us once again.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 11:40 PM

QUOTE (santana @ Nov 30 2008, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we didnt match up well with the broncs.

our secondary needs to step it up. those underneath routes murdered us once again.


that was pretty much it. i'm imagining we spent a lot of time this week thinking about slowing down the pass. in return, the run game was able to get going against us too.

We're simply a bad team in the secondary.

and people getting mad that we couldn't sack a quarterback that's been sacked the least in the NFL? sometimes something has to give.

There was a Gholston sighting today though.. and his pass rush resulted in a 30+ yard completion on the run. he took a bad angle. But the gloom and doom here is pretty bad. it's kind of why I hate coming to the forums after a game. guaranteed to see some members that had nothing to say when we were winning. that's nothing personal either, Camenzind. I think you're a great member here.

But it's like clock work. People that aren't around all week pop up on Sunday to make a post after an interception, or a loss, or anything negative. it's just not fun.
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Posted 01 December 2008 - 12:19 AM

QUOTE (Amen @ Nov 30 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But it's like clock work. People that aren't around all week pop up on Sunday to make a post after an interception, or a loss, or anything negative. it's just not fun.


Pretty much.. Wheres the love when we stopming the titans and beating the Pats? In back to back games? I'm starting to see a tread as well.

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Not stressing that much.

1. Weather was a game changer
2. We needed a loss to WAKE UP the team and bring them down a notch....in case they were getting high on themselves
3. David Harris is back next week....should help shore up run D
4. Walked away healthy from a poor condition field
5. Will make us work hard in the next 4 games
6. Pats got the clocked cleaned by Pitt
7. We play San Fran, Seattle & a fading Buffalo at home in the next 3. Will allow us to continue to fine tune
8. While a big weakness was exposed.....how many teams have the likes of a Marshall, Royal, Stokley, Scheffler, & Graham....not many. I am ok with it


Bottom line...we ARE a good team. Just need to refocus for the playoff run. Everyone has a clunker in them...we just had one. No reason to freak....just continue to practice hard and game plan for next week. This team HAS the ability to go far.


You and I are always on the same page TLJ. I agree 100%.
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Posted 01 December 2008 - 04:35 AM

QUOTE (Amen @ Dec 1 2008, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But it's like clock work. People that aren't around all week pop up on Sunday to make a post after an interception, or a loss, or anything negative. it's just not fun.


I try and keep my bad mouthing to the chatroom myself ((Because hey everyone has to vent dammit!))but honestly after a piss poor performace you are gonna have miserable fans that is clockwork on any team.

We knew our secondary is having problems and it would show this week. It did so I don't see why people are so upset about it. Cutler had a GREAT game with this weather but you could see easy catches dropped on both sides. Just like I had to tell my wife today while she was complaining today: Holy shit woman we already won twice as many games as last season and we are still on the road to the playoffs and a possible division title!

Cheer up Jets fans and get off your high horses! Every team has holes in it and we just got outplayed today. Next week we will tear it up and you will all have to complain about how our prevent defese gave up 21 points to let SF pull within 14! drinks.gif
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Posted 01 December 2008 - 07:57 AM

QUOTE (SecondHandJets @ Nov 30 2008, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You left out the part that our jumbo OLBs can't cover TEs.

You guys would not be happy if we went 13-3 every year. In those losses, you would find so many weaknesses it would make you miserable. Bottom line: we played a more determined opponent and don't forget that they get paid too!
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