[nightowl]

Now you are winking at me like you got me riled up or something? I told you go after Billy the Queer not me. And of course I needed to set you straight cause you think you can attack our knowledge of football because you are a Pats fan and you are in denial.

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I certainly can attack your knowledge of the Patriots.

[nightowl]

Now you are winking at me like you got me riled up or something? I told you go after Billy the Queer not me. And of course I needed to set you straight cause you think you can attack our knowledge of football because you are a Pats fan and you are in denial.

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I can certainly attack your knowledge concerning the Patriots.

[jets0n]

Yeah well you haven't done it yet because you some how feel that coaching isn't a big deal yet you think your coach can do anything so yet coaching is everything at the same time so which one is it?

[NYJBlueHen]

Belichick is right now the best coach in the NFL, can we stop attacking him just cause he stood up the Jets?

[jets0n]

No because everyone wants to give all the credit to the guy in charge and no credit to the Coordinators.

Let me ask you something, who is responsible for our Defense? Herm or Donnie? Exactly what I thought. It's the Head Coaches job to hire the right people and manage situations but its the coordinators job to call the right plays and coach his side of the ball, be it personelle or playcalling.

[nightowl]

Yeah well you haven't done it yet because you some how feel that coaching isn't a big deal yet you think your coach can do anything so yet coaching is everything at the same time so which one is it?

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The Patriots have a great head coach. The Jets have great coordinators. No coordinator has ever told Belichick how to run his team and that's why he'll be fine. He was always in charge before and is now. If you're paying close attention to the Patriots, you'd be focusing much more on the Bruschi situation which is still unresolved. Bruschi's loss WOULD be a big deal to the D and could potentially affect the Patriots much more than the playcalling situation will.

[NYJBlueHen]

Ok so Donnie has all the credit for defense, Hackett all his fault for offense, what exactly was Herm doin? And don't say managing the clock.

[jets0n]

That is probably the DUMBEST statement I have ever heard from anyone "claiming" to have football knowledge. You are telling me that losing 1 guy on Defense is more detrimental then losing the guy that tells your 1 guy what to play? Where is your superior logic and reasoning abilities?

[jets0n]

Ok so Donnie has all the credit for defense, Hackett all his fault for offense, what exactly was Herm doin? And don't say managing the clock.

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I already addressed that, Herm's job is to manage the situations and boost player morale, get the most out of his players, etc...

If you think that the head coach calls the plays and this and that you are mistaken. They delegate those responsibilities to Coordinators and sometimes they will veto their opinion. Does the President deal with all the issues of government? If so why have a House of Reps or a Senate or a Court system? The President hires people when he gets elected to do certain jobs, like Secretary of Defense. Same thing with the head coach.

[nightowl]

No because everyone wants to give all the credit to the guy in charge and no credit to the Coordinators.

Let me ask you something, who is responsible for our Defense? Herm or Donnie? Exactly what I thought. It's the Head Coaches job to hire the right people and manage situations but its the coordinators job to call the right plays and coach his side of the ball, be it personelle or playcalling.

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That's the way it works in New York and with many other teams. It's not the way it works in New England and never has. Belichick always works on the game plans. The coordinators call the routine plays but on third downs and other critical plays, The coordinators would check with Belichick first.

[nightowl]

That is probably the DUMBEST statement I have ever heard from anyone "claiming" to have football knowledge. You are telling me that losing 1 guy on Defense is more detrimental then losing the guy that tells your 1 guy what to play? Where is your superior logic and reasoning abilities?

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It only sounds dumb because you may know the Jets but when it comes to the Patriots you don't know what you don't know.

[NYJBlueHen]

Yes I know how football coaches work, but thanks for that little lesson, but Head Coaches has the final say and are responsible for the whole team. And Belichick clearly takes on more duties then most. Just accept that he is a great coach, it doesn't make you any less of a Jet fan. Intelligent fans give respect where respect is due. 3 rings earn my respect.

[jets0n]

You didn't answer my question, in fact you dodged right over it so I will ask it again:

You feel that coaching isn't important because the Coordinators [ because of your personal conversations w/ Billy and cause you are at the practices and so forth ] dont do anything but what Belichick tells them to do and your head coach is the best coach to ever live because of his superior coaching skills and he is all you need. Well some people said that about Joe Gibbs, Marty, and a few others and those guys have more talent on their teams than the Pats do, so why are they not there? Because they dont have good Coordinators and this exposes them as not actually being the geniuses everyone thought them to be.

So what is it: Coaching is important, or coaching doesn't mean anything at all? Cause you can't have it both ways. You have to admit it sooner or later that Coordinators are a MAJOR part of how a team operates and that by losing your Coordinators you aren't the same Patriots.

[jets0n]

I have respect for what he has done, however I respect his Coordinators which YOU wont do. Neither one of you infact will give credit where credit is due so dont give me your "little lessons".

[NIGHT STALKER]

Nightowl, I didn't disappear from a thread. Just didn't keep up with it. I am a very busy man running a business and can't really keep up with all the responses in threads. To be honest, I can't believe I'm even engaging with a fan from another team on a Jets forum.

[jets0n]

Nightowl, I didn't disappear from a thread.  Just didn't keep up with it.  I am a very busy man running a business and can't really keep up with all the responses in threads.  To be honest, I can't believe I'm even engaging with a fan from another team on a Jets forum.

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Exactly ... they come in here cause they are scared of the Jets. They have been taught by the media that the Jets suck, no dont worry about the Jets, yet we were 2 f'ked up kicks from playing the Pats and I bet we wouldve won that game due to all the momentum we would've had. Playing games that were important and winning them in OT and such and just battling it out. We had amazing confidence and momentum and Pats fans fear us for that cause our team is still intact and infact got better with hiring the most successful OC in the league.

[jets0n]

And there team did nothing but lose a whole bunch, but it doesn't matter. They could have the Dolphins team playing for Belicheck and they will win a Superbowl, right?

[nightowl]

You didn't answer my question, in fact you dodged right over it so I will ask it again:

You feel that coaching isn't important because the Coordinators [ because of your personal conversations w/ Billy and cause you are at the practices and so forth ] dont do anything but what Belichick tells them to do and your head coach is the best coach to ever live because of his superior coaching skills and he is all you need. Well some people said that about Joe Gibbs, Marty, and a few others and those guys have more talent on their teams than the Pats do, so why are they not there? Because they dont have good Coordinators and this exposes them as not actually being the geniuses everyone thought them to be.

So what is it: Coaching is important, or coaching doesn't mean anything at all? Cause you can't have it both ways. You have to admit it sooner or later that Coordinators are a MAJOR part of how a team operates and that by losing your Coordinators you aren't the same Patriots.

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You're hatred of all things Belichick (and quite possibly me as well) is showing because now you're rambling. To be honest I don't have the slightest idea of what you're trying to say in this post. Care to rephrase?

[nightowl]

Exactly ... they come in here cause they are scared of the Jets. They have been taught by the media that the Jets suck, no dont worry about the Jets, yet we were 2 f'ked up kicks from playing the Pats and I bet we wouldve won that game due to all the momentum we would've had. Playing games that were important and winning them in OT and such and just battling it out. We had amazing confidence and momentum and Pats fans fear us for that cause our team is still intact and infact got better with hiring the most successful OC in the league.

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That is out and out funny. You DO remember what happened in week 15, don't you?

[jets0n]

Oh my god you are dumb so I will quote myself again:

Yeah well you haven't done it yet because you some how feel that coaching isn't a big deal yet you think your coach can do anything so yet coaching is everything at the same time so which one is it?

If you can't understand this then I am going to end all converstation with you.