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azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:44 PM

OK what do u guys think. I need a stud WR so I offered (to the last place team who needs a RB badly)

D.davis and M.clayton

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C.johnson and c.martin


His staring RBs are martin and bennet (ouch I know) and he doesn’t even have a decent back-up option he does however have both mannings. If he trades me for this then tardes a manning for another stud RB he’d be set. He has some good WRs so tahts not a concern. I need a WR badly and I still have tiki, k.jones and ship. So I figue I can start tiki and jones and still have 2 decent back-ups in ship and martin.

What do u guys think?
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:38 PM

good deal both ways.. thumbup.gif
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:56 PM

You'd get the best of the deal, but at least he'd have a back with some potential instead of two guys who can't combine for ten points.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 02:07 PM

Bennet and martin combined have less total points then d.davis and davis already had his bye week. Bennet isn’t even the starter in minn. Anymore. he needs a back badly and he has other WRs plus getting clayton isn’t a bad option to start either. Our league scores high and weirdly. Last year d.davis was the 3rd best back behind LT (1) and westbrook (2). I’m only trading him cause after this week k.jones will be able to take off againss bad defenses.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 03:37 PM

offer that to him.i like johnson alot
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 05:38 PM

OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 5 2005, 05:13 PM)
OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.


Willie Parker might not be starting in the next couple weeks as Bettis and Staley are both going to be back. There were rumors last week that Staley would get the start, so his value is dropping quite a bit.

And, honestly, don't you think you're a little bit predjudiced against all things-Giant? I know you have a lot of dumb Giant fans around, but Eli is scoring pretty well and has a lot of weapons. Ah, I guess I'm the same way with the Chiefs.
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Oct 5 2005, 08:05 PM)
Willie Parker might not be starting in the next couple weeks as Bettis and Staley are both going to be back.  There were rumors last week that Staley would get the start, so his value is dropping quite a bit.

And, honestly, don't you think you're a little bit predjudiced against all things-Giant?  I know you have a lot of dumb Giant fans around, but Eli is scoring pretty well and has a lot of weapons.  Ah, I guess I'm the same way with the Chiefs.


I know eli is. Maybe u read my post wrong. I said he was dumb for giving up eli and only getting parker in return. I’m giving eli his props as a fantasy player only. Face it he hasn’t faced a real defense but he really wont have to all year. I know philly but besides them who else? Dallas isn’t playing well on defense. The skins isn’t what it was last year sooo… oh and he rejected the davis trade. That’s pure dumbness. He needs a RB so he tardes a top 5 fantasy guy right now at QB (most important) for a soon to be back-up RB. That’s gonna blow up in his face
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 6 2005, 09:34 AM)
I know eli is. Maybe u read my post wrong. I said he was dumb for giving up eli and only getting parker in return. I’m giving eli his props as a fantasy player only. Face it he hasn’t faced a real defense but he really wont have to all year. I know philly but besides them who else? Dallas isn’t playing well on defense. The skins isn’t what it was last year sooo… oh and he rejected the davis trade. That’s pure dumbness. He needs a RB so he tardes a top 5 fantasy guy right now at QB (most important) for a soon to be back-up RB. That’s gonna blow up in his face


Yeah, I thought you meant the other way, with the guy getting Eli being screwed. How long have you been in that league? I'd be surprised if an experienced FFL operatot allowed a trade like that to go through, or at least one who was playing with friends.

THe worst trade I've seen in my league just went through, it was:

Vick, Stephen Davis, and Tory Holt for Lamont Jordan. Jordan was maybe worth Holt on his own, and I think Holt has better value (in that league receivers who get long TDs score as well as #2RBs except Moss and Owens who almost score as well as #1s). So he got 1)a great receiver, 2)a starting RB who gets TDs, and 3)a QB with upside as a #2 and only gave up an underachieving RB in exchange. But our commish checked with the other owner and tried to talk to him out of it.

Well, then the guy offered me A.Green, Vick, and Bruce for McGahee and Muhammud. I guess he thinks he can get on a role with getting trades that are steals.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 10:22 AM

Actually the guy that traded eli proposed the trade I found out. they let it pass cause we have a 2 headed commish and both of the commishes passed trades that favored the other guy. Next year I’m making sure we install a league wide vote on trades. this is our 2nd year doing it so there are still bugs in the system. U can’t blame people for wanthing a competitive advantage
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 7 2005, 09:57 AM)
Actually the guy that traded eli proposed the trade I found out. they let it pass cause we have a 2 headed commish and both of the commishes passed trades that favored the other guy. Next year I’m making sure we install a league wide vote on trades. this is our 2nd year doing it so there are still bugs in the system. U can’t blame people for wanthing a competitive advantage


Yeah, but a commish should choose fairness more than anything. When I got the FA going in our league I waited two days before I used it, just to make sure I wasn't using it before everyone knew.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 04:28 PM

I just made a trade. I traded barber and clayton for plax and taylor.

I figured I needed a stud WR and the gianst crappy defense leads to a lot of throwing. Think about it the worst defenses usually means good QBs for fantasy, green and manning of past years etc. I figure plax will continue to be eli’s go to guy for a while so barbers production will go down. Plus they use Jacobs on goaline. He took 2 TDs from barber already
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 5 2005, 06:13 PM)
OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.


I would rather Parker over Eli, Cowher says Parker isn't losing the starting job, and all the Steelers do is run. Eli was a free agent in my league until this week, and QB's are easier to come by then starting RB's. He was desperate for a RB, I think it was a fair trade.
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QUOTE (TheUltimate @ Oct 7 2005, 06:01 PM)
I would rather Parker over Eli,  Cowher says Parker isn't losing the starting job, and all the Steelers do is run.  Eli was a free agent in my league until this week, and QB's are easier to come by then starting RB's.  He was desperate for a RB, I think it was a fair trade.


I think Parker keeping his job is like the Vikings saying that Tice's job is safe. Staley and Bettis will get at least some carries, and it should be enough to keep Parker from being anything better than a #2 or (more likely in my opinon) #3 fantasy back. And then he might just lose it if he doesn't play well for a game or goes down. So to me, Parker has a lot of downside and Eli has a lot of upside as a guy on the rise.

If Parker gets less than twenty carries a game (Staley gets some), and Bettis only gets goal line carries (like last season), he loses a lot of value. You can pretty much forget bonus points for reaching a certain number of carries or yards (usually 20 and 100, respectfully) and won't get many TDs. I wouldn't be surprised if he started getting cut in a lot of leagues in the coming weeks.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Oct 7 2005, 07:10 PM)
I think Parker keeping his job is like the Vikings saying that Tice's job is safe.  Staley and Bettis will get at least some carries, and it should be enough to keep Parker from being anything better than a #2 or (more likely in my opinon) #3 fantasy back.  And then he might just lose it if he doesn't play well for a game or goes down.  So to me, Parker has a lot of downside and Eli has a lot of upside as a guy on the rise.

If Parker gets less than twenty carries a game (Staley gets some), and Bettis only gets goal line carries (like last season), he loses a lot of value.  You can pretty much forget bonus points for reaching a certain number of carries or yards (usually 20 and 100, respectfully) and won't get many TDs.  I wouldn't be surprised if he started getting cut in a lot of leagues in the coming weeks.


I got a question for you, I got Staley on 1 of my teams, I have him on the bench, do you think he is worth keeping him or should I just drop him? Cause I heard he ain't even gonna be on the roster this week, cause they have Parker, Bettis and that Haynes guy. I don't know what is going on with Staley. Should I just keep him and hope that Parker gets benched, but is he still worth it, cause Bettis will steal all his TDs anyway.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (TheUltimate @ Oct 7 2005, 06:15 PM)
I got a question for you, I got Staley on 1 of my teams, I have him on the bench, do you think he is worth keeping him or should I just drop him?  Cause I heard he ain't even gonna be on the roster this week, cause they have Parker, Bettis and that Haynes guy.  I don't know what is going on with Staley.  Should I just keep him and hope that Parker gets benched, but is he still worth it, cause Bettis will steal all his TDs anyway.


It depends on who is out there in the FA market. In my league, if I had Staley, I would keep him right now because there isn't anything out there. But I don't think any Steeler back can be trusted right now, or at least after this week, with so many proven players in the mix that all want some playing time. Parker probably has one more week as a real starter and then it may become a real RB-by-commitee scenario with none of them having a lot of value...

as usual, I didn't really answer the question. I would drop him, but only if you actually get something in return.
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