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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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#21 User is offline   ellisjersey92 Icon

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 08:37 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 15 2007, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i haven't heard of the last two guys but i like their size. bringing in guys that are robertson's size doesn't really make any sense

yes but i still don't over look size. as we saw towards the end of the season with robertson, technique can be taught and it will help greatly but it only goes so far. once the technique is down, the only thing thats going to stop a center and guard from moving the nose is 330 pounds of bulk and power. i dont know this guys build but if he can and is willing to put on the weight then LETS DO IT!!!! NT is our most pressing need this offseason.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:42 PM

Whats Tui's measurables?
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:07 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 15 2007, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
when robertson was drafted he was billed as the next warren sapp. now he never lived up to that when we were running the 4-3 but now that hes a nose in the 3-4 he has no shot at pass rushing. his size and skill set really play towards a 3-4 end and im really excited to see what he can do there. if we found a big body in the middle and with ellis and robertson at end, i believe we'd have one of the better defensive lines in the league and that will greatly help our linebackers



he was excelling and was considered a top under tackle which is what warren sapp is, the year they played the chargers in the playoffs.......the next season teams collapsed on him because we lost fergeson and played a bunch of guys who dont belong in the league, he was also injured......but your right he would be a fine DE in 3-4 sort of like how seymour was moved from DT to DE in 3-4 and has had great success
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:12 PM

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Whats Tui's measurables?


He's 350 pounds...but doesn't seem to be on the team anymore...or in football for that matter...
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:26 PM

Yeah we definitely need some fat boys to solidfy the run defense. We need a big,fat,sloppy Pat Williams type of NT. We also need a threat at OLB that the defense will have to account for every play. (I.E. Shawne Merriman?) If we gonna run the 3-4 then we need fat boys up front to keep blockers off Vilma. Our OLB's are serviceable but not protoype 3-4 LB's. As far as the secondary...I think they are just fine. A blistering pass rush out of the 3-4 will make any secondary look good.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:19 PM

"As is the case with Moses and Adams at defensive end, there is little doubt that Marcus Thomas (Florida) and Quinn Pitkock (Ohio State) are the premier senior defensive tackle prospects so far. Ironically, Thomas and Pitkock share very few similarities in terms of style of play. Thomas is a disruptive force with 18 tackles-for-loss the past two seasons, while Pitkock is valued more for his ability to occupy blockers and free up linebackers to make the big play. Pitkock is more consistent at this point but Thomas has greater upside."


6'3" 295 and a artical on espn says hes crazy
now this is on my wish list, looks like a 2nd or 3rd round guy.
btw that is not how you spell his name, it is with a C but you can not write that on here.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (CaptainJet @ Jan 15 2007, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah we definitely need some fat boys to solidfy the run defense. We need a big,fat,sloppy Pat Williams type of NT. We also need a threat at OLB that the defense will have to account for every play. (I.E. Shawne Merriman?) If we gonna run the 3-4 then we need fat boys up front to keep blockers off Vilma. Our OLB's are serviceable but not protoype 3-4 LB's. As far as the secondary...I think they are just fine. A blistering pass rush out of the 3-4 will make any secondary look good.


Remember this was B.Thomas first real year and at a new position. He'll be a beast next season. Coming off a 8 sack year this year. Keep Hobson but don't resign and get another OLB from someplace
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 16 2007, 03:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's 350 pounds...but doesn't seem to be on the team anymore...or in football for that matter...


Didn't he get put on IR?
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 02:14 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 16 2007, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Didn't he get put on IR?

Yea he did, he is just not listed with the team because he was on a practice squad type of deal, he is on our team though in some way or another, you will see his name pop up when mini camp starts.

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jan 16 2007, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remember this was B.Thomas first real year and at a new position. He'll be a beast next season. Coming off a 8 sack year this year. Keep Hobson but don't resign and get another OLB from someplace

Yea Bryan Thomas became one of the better 3-4 OLBs in the league. He is basically shut down on his side, he hits people in the backfield and blows plays up. He will only get better with experience. I dont think getting 10+ sacks this year is out of the question for Thomas.

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 15 2007, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"As is the case with Moses and Adams at defensive end, there is little doubt that Marcus Thomas (Florida) and Quinn Pitkock (Ohio State) are the premier senior defensive tackle prospects so far. Ironically, Thomas and Pitkock share very few similarities in terms of style of play. Thomas is a disruptive force with 18 tackles-for-loss the past two seasons, while Pitkock is valued more for his ability to occupy blockers and free up linebackers to make the big play. Pitkock is more consistent at this point but Thomas has greater upside."
6'3" 295 and a artical on espn says hes crazy
now this is on my wish list, looks like a 2nd or 3rd round guy.
btw that is not how you spell his name, it is with a C but you can not write that on here.

Yea Pitkock would be good for us, I see him as a DE for the 3-4, he would fit nicely. It depends though, I really cant wait to see what FAs we pick up, this year is way less predictable on what player we will get with our 1st because we really dont have 1 major need. Pitkock is a 1st rounder though, atleast from where it stands right now, I would like to get Okoye if hes there, he is a really nice NT prospect who has tons of potiential and room to grow. Only 19 years old right now, was a 16 year old freshman. crazy.gif Thats insane!!!
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 16 2007, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea he did, he is just not listed with the team because he was on a practice squad type of deal, he is on our team though in some way or another, you will see his name pop up when mini camp starts.


I don't know man...Tui might be on the team in any fashion anymore. Like I said...you can't find him on any roster list on newyorkjets.com. Whether it be the IR list...the Practice Squad List...anything.

And he isn't listed on NFL.com...
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 16 2007, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know man...Tui might be on the team in any fashion anymore. Like I said...you can't find him on any roster list on newyorkjets.com. Whether it be the IR list...the Practice Squad List...anything.

And he isn't listed on NFL.com...


Well I decide to look up some research on what happened to Tui and according to baamf of theganggreen.com remebers reading (according to) Jets Confidential, that the team came to an injury settlement with Tui Alailefaleula and then released him.

The post was in November..

http://forums.thegan...t=Alailefaleula
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (smallguy @ Jan 16 2007, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I decide to look up some research on what happened to Tui and according to baamf of theganggreen.com remebers reading (according to) Jets Confidential, that the team came to an injury settlement with Tui Alailefaleula and then released him.

The post was in November..

http://forums.thegan...t=Alailefaleula


Nice work...thanks for clearing that up...I'm a little too lazy for that. Haha...but I guess we can stop hoping Tui comes back. It sucks...because there really aren't any real good NT prospects in the draft or any guy's coming out in free agency. I suppose it's up to D Rob and Pouha now...
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