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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 06:50 PM

Vilma is good, but if we go to a 3-4 he won't be nearly as effective.. so............


Don't say things like Dewayne Robertson or Kerry Rhodes. I want a list of actual good players; Players that we can be proud of.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 06:59 PM

Shaun Ellis
L.coles
Curtis Martin
Jonathan Vilma
Eric Coleman (young player always has lot's of tackle's and rarely get's burned)


Upcomer's

Jerricho Cotchery
Kerry Rhodes
Justin Miller

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Posted 24 March 2006 - 07:16 PM

good- vilma, ellis, barton, coles, martin
young guys- cotchery(better than mccareins), rhodes, coleman,(hopefully dbrick, mangold and chromartie).
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 07:22 PM

Let's see......

First & foremost - Wayne Chrebet (hasn't retired officially yet)
Curtis Martin
BJ Askew
Chris Baker
David Barrett
Laverneous Coles
Shaun Ellis
Victor Hobson
Cedric Houston
Justin Miller
Jonathan Vilma
Kimo Von Oelhoffen (recently signed)

There's a dozen for ya.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 07:46 PM

QUOTE (FlyHiJets @ Mar 24 2006, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's see......

First & foremost - Wayne Chrebet (hasn't retired officially yet)
Curtis Martin-old and overpaid
BJ Askew-complete bust
Chris Baker-sucks
David Barrett-sucks
Laverneous Coles-damaged goods
Shaun Ellis-waste of space last year
Victor Hobson-sucks
Cedric Houston-good #2 back
Justin Miller-can't play cb
Jonathan Vilma-makes every tackle 5 yds downfield.. overrated.
Kimo Von Oelhoffen (recently signed)-sucks

There's a dozen for ya.

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Posted 24 March 2006 - 07:57 PM

Than why the f*** are you a Jets fan!? f*** off with the negativity! Are you honestly going to call the DROTY crap? Overrated!? OK...you just lost any ounce of credibility you might have had a shot at getting.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 08:03 PM

Ron......

PLEASE put away this alias & keep it put way.

If it's not you or one of the others just paying around, then this has got to be somebody I could actually picture seeing on the Worlds Dumbest Criminals for stealing a box of free samples off a truck before they got into the store or some shit like that ecause he obviously doesn't know football.

Curtis Martin old & overpaid? ever hear of a league veteran minimum?

Askew a complete bust? And he's proven this how exactly? How much playing time have you seen him get?

Baker Sucks? You just making that statement indicates your level of football knowledge.

Coles damaged goods? In what sense? Are you saying J-Mac is better? If so, please get the fvck off this board now because to make that statement would make you an embarassment to have here.

David Barrett sucks? Go watch some film kid.

Victor Hobson sucks? See above.

Shaun Ellis a waste of space? Funny how I saw a lot of teams rushing through the middle a lot more than to the outside last year.

Justin Miller can't play CB? I tend to think he held his own & he's our biggest Kick Return threat. (Notice I said kick....not punt)

Vilma.......LB's usually do make tackles 5 yards off the line of scrimmage in case you needed to learn more about football kid. Let's see......Pro Bowl & led the league, but he's overrated. Get a life.

Kimo Von Oelhoffen.....He's got a ring coming to him from what I remember.

Now before you go continuing to make unfounded comments, please ....... step away from the keyboard. Go do your homework & then come talk to the big boys okay?
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 08:06 PM

Elite:
Jonathan Vilma.
Ben Graham.

Solid:
Curtis Martin.
Shaun Ellis.
Victor Hobson.
David Barrett.
Dewayne Robertson.
Chris Baker.
Laveranues Coles.
Wayne Chrebet (while we have him as FlyHiJets said).
Justin McCareins.
Erik Coleman.
Mike Nugent.
Justin Miller (all around)
Kerry Rhodes.
Brandon Moore.
Adrian Jones.
Pete Kendall.
Eric Barton.

Adequate:
Chad Pennington.
BJ Askew.
Kimo Van Ohloffen (can't spell that).
Cedrick Houston.
Derrick Blaylock.
Jerricho Cotchery.
Derrick Strait.
Doug Jolley.
James Reed.
Brooks Bollinger.
Patrick Ramsey.

Rising:
Jonathan Vilma.
Jerricho Cotchery.
Mike Nugent.
Ben Graham.
Brooks Bollinger.
Adrian Jones.
Brandon Moore.
Dewayne Robertson (is getting better year by year).
Kerry Rhodes.
Justin Miller.
Erik Coleman.
Victor Hobson.
BJ Askew.
Derrick Strait.
Joel Dreesen.
Cedrick Houston.
Donte Ridgeway.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 08:14 PM

QUOTE (FlyHiJets @ Mar 24 2006, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ron......

PLEASE put away this alias & keep it put way.

If it's not you or one of the others just paying around, then this has got to be somebody I could actually picture seeing on the Worlds Dumbest Criminals for stealing a box of free samples off a truck before they got into the store or some shit like that ecause he obviously doesn't know football.

Curtis Martin old & overpaid? ever hear of a league veteran minimum?

Askew a complete bust? And he's proven this how exactly? How much playing time have you seen him get?

Baker Sucks? You just making that statement indicates your level of football knowledge.

Coles damaged goods? In what sense? Are you saying J-Mac is better? If so, please get the fvck off this board now because to make that statement would make you an embarassment to have here.

David Barrett sucks? Go watch some film kid.

Victor Hobson sucks? See above.

Shaun Ellis a waste of space? Funny how I saw a lot of teams rushing through the middle a lot more than to the outside last year.

Justin Miller can't play CB? I tend to think he held his own & he's our biggest Kick Return threat. (Notice I said kick....not punt)

Vilma.......LB's usually do make tackles 5 yards off the line of scrimmage in case you needed to learn more about football kid. Let's see......Pro Bowl & led the league, but he's overrated. Get a life.

Kimo Von Oelhoffen.....He's got a ring coming to him from what I remember.

Now before you go continuing to make unfounded comments, please ....... step away from the keyboard. Go do your homework & then come talk to the big boys okay?


I agree with you, but on some of these I think you are just being a homer. I think you have to look at this question and not be bias cause you are a Jets fan. Everyone in the NFL is good, so this question is pretty stupid, but to say special players I would say we only have a few.Ellis, Vilma , Coles and Barton

I will be the Devil Advocate here, you are right Askew hasn't had a chance to prove himself, so we can't make the decision if he is good or bad yet until we do see him play.
Baker def. has the potential to be a GREAT TE but right now he isn't someone the other team fears yet.
Barret is a decent #2 CB, I really wouldn't call that good.
Hobson I don't even have an excuse for him, I don't think he is good at all
Justin Miller also very young, I think he could be great in the future but right now he wouldn't even be a starting CB for most teams.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 08:40 PM

first off i want to say one thing, DT are not the ones who r usually like leading there team in tackles for a game, their the ones who just pretty much slow down and clog up holes against the running back and are not playmakers. that being said, from what i have seen on madden(yes i know its different from real life), d'brick can make c-mart maybe another league rusher, all games i have played he has had like 100 yards, mainly because i run to the left about 98% of the time. that being said r good players r:

Jonathan Vilma
Shaun Ellis
Curtis Martin
Lavernues Coles

The next are potential ones i believe, if we draft them that is:

D'Brickashaw Ferguson
the rest that i have put in Madden(mathias kiwanuka) have not made an impact really.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 09:08 PM

Anybody who thinks David Barrett is good is a retard.

David Barrett is the worst player in the NFL.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Mar 24 2006, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody who thinks David Barrett is good is a retard.

David Barrett is the worst player in the NFL.

ur the dumbest guy on this site


so it evens out





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Posted 24 March 2006 - 10:10 PM

QUOTE (BeAsT Of ThE EaSt 51 @ Mar 24 2006, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ur the dumbest guy on this site
so it evens out


HAHAHHA funny.gif . David Barrett worst player in the NFL!. Hummmm!, he can't be serious? NO...... He can't be.

Can he?
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 10:23 PM

First off this is a great question

VILMA
Ellis
Coles
Barton
Kendell
Graham
Coleman
This team gives me gray hairs, but I love them none the less.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 10:32 PM

Well, call me Negative, but here I go:

High quality players:
B Graham (so what if he is a punter)
J Vilma
barton

above average starters:
Coles
Ellis
Rhodes
Robertson
Coleman

Maybe another guy or two, but mostly I think we have a lot of okay starters and then a very few top notch players. It isn't just Vilma, but it isn't twenty-two guys either.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 10:57 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Mar 24 2006, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody who thinks David Barrett is good is a retard.

David Barrett is the worst player in the NFL.


u r callin otha people retarted???? do u even know what a football is???? u said every guy that eva done sumthin sux...thurs no explanation except u dont have a brain cell.

anyway correction on otha people
Chad Pennington: NOT EVEN DECENT...KNOW ARM AND NOW NO ACCURACY=BUST
bj askew: wtf??? how u put him as good??? what the hell has he done
JUSTIN MCCAIRNES: CANT CATCH, KINDA IMPORTANT, CANT GO OVA MIDDLE, DECENT BLOCKER, AND CANT GO DEEP, OH AND NEVA USES HIS SIZE.
COLES: NEVA SHOULDA BEEN TRADED FOR SANTANNA MOSS 10 TIMES BETTA I ALMOST CRIED WHEN THEY DID THAT TRADE SO TERRIBLE, ANYWAY BACK TO HIM HES OVERRATED, YES HE CAN GO OVA MIDDLE YES HES FAST AND CAN GO DEEP, BUT LIKE HIS BUDDY JUSTIN....HE CANT CATCH THE BALL!!!! HE DROPPED SO MANY EASY TDS LAST YR IT WAS DISGUISTING!!
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Curtis Martin: hey he was injured since week 3 last yr with a bad line, hes one of the greatest off all time and is an extremely hard worker he will be back.

Shaun Ellis: is a very good DE he gets sacks and stuffs run and big guy what more u want?

Jonathon Vilma: who the hell put him as a rising star?? hes been a ALL STAR since rookie yr(hence rookie of they yea award) he had 167 tackles last year and eventually got in the pro bowl. I dont care what d lineup u put him in-3-4 4-3 nickle dime doesnt matta he will be great.. hes strong, hard worker, and very fast. no fat ass gaurds can even catch him to block him and if they do he can shed it. ALSO...all linebackers have some trouble with 3-4 cus of that reason..if u really had football knowledge ud know u cant run outside on a 3-4, the best way to beat it is go right at it. tough for 3-4 to defend inside gaps its just a fact of football for any team run up middle youll be succesful.

Eric Barton: he was injured last year so people forget how good he is hes got prety good speed and is fast and makes tackles

Erik Coleman: doesnt get burned knows what hes doin and makes plays-simple

David Barret: Bill Cower said best d back he saw all year 2 seasons ago in playoffs, makes plays, and didnt start getting burned till her got an eye injury....incase some of u people that says he sucks doesnt know...eyes and being able to see is kinda important in football.

everyone else u cant really say anything bout

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Posted 24 March 2006 - 11:02 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Mar 24 2006, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody who thinks David Barrett is good is a retard.

David Barrett is the worst player in the NFL.


And obviously your father must've jerked off in a flowerpot because he raised a blooming fvcking idiot. Like I said.....before you spew off at the mouth.....at least have something to back it up.

David Barret's stats:

91 Games Played
63 Games Started
370 Tackles
286 Solo Tackles
13 INT's
52 Passes Defended
8 Forced Fumbles
3 Fumble Recoveries

In 6 years with starting what would be considered only 4 full seasons. Yep. They look like the stats of the worst player in the league to me.......if I'm hanging out with Ricky Williams getting high!!!!!

Something tells me this guy has to be Ron playing around again, because if not, he's gotta go.
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 11:06 PM

besdies brady and bruschi name anyone good on the pats? didn't think so. we have a team of solid vets and young talent.
if u mean superstars then yes we only have 1 vilma
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Posted 24 March 2006 - 11:06 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Mar 24 2006, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Elite:
Jonathan Vilma.
Ben Graham.

Solid:
Curtis Martin.
Shaun Ellis.
Victor Hobson.-comon man cant be serious no way hes solid hes been a weak spot in d all year
David Barrett.
Dewayne Robertson.-hasnt really proven himself yet but is pretty good
Chris Baker.
Laveranues Coles.- when he learns how to catch the ball we can talk bout him being good
Wayne Chrebet (while we have him as FlyHiJets said).-retired comon u guys wanna kill him hes done
Justin McCareins.-WTF???? leave now!!! justin mccariens is about as solid as mike nugent playing o line. AGAIN ...CANT CATCH, BARELY BLOCK, DOESNT USE SIZE, CANT GO OVA MIDLE CANT GO DEEP...WHAT CAN HE DO BESIDES SIT ON THE BENCH???
Erik Coleman.
Mike Nugent.-eh kinda
Justin Miller (all around)- um not bad but still needs work
Kerry Rhodes.-needs work
Brandon Moore. last yr dissapointing but if he can return to 2 seaosn ago yea
Adrian Jones.-comon yr dreamin with half these guys not good AT ALL
Pete Kendall.- was actually pretty bad last year held and got beat
Eric Barton.- yes def good

Adequate:
Chad Pennington.adequate to do what??? be a wateboy???
BJ Askew.-so adequete he suz
Kimo Van Ohloffen (can't spell that). hes actually should be in solid or good
Cedrick Houston.-should be solid ran for like 75 yards a game
Derrick Blaylock.- has to prove mhiself
Jerricho Cotchery.should be risin star
Derrick Strait.ok
Doug Jolley.-HELL NO NOT ON ANY LIST HE SUX TOO MUCH TO TALK BOUT HES LIK MCCAIRINES
James Reed.
Brooks Bollinger.no
Patrick Ramsey.hell no

Rising:
Jonathan Vilma.-akready thur
Jerricho Cotchery.
Mike Nugent.
Ben Graham.
Brooks Bollinger.def not
Adrian Jones.no
Brandon Moore.
Dewayne Robertson (is getting better year by year).
Kerry Rhodes.
Justin Miller.
Erik Coleman.
Victor Hobson.getting way worse
BJ Askew.gettin worse
Derrick Strait.
Joel Dreesen.??????????the te snapper what he do??
Cedrick Houston.
Donte Ridgeway.no idea wha that is sorry bro i know almost anyone on roster so def not risin if i dont know


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Posted 24 March 2006 - 11:11 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Mar 24 2006, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anybody who thinks David Barrett is good is a retard.

David Barrett is the worst player in the NFL.

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