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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 06:35 PM

hey, liek i said before, i am going to be doing alot of training and lifting during the summer for next years baseball season. I am looking into taking some kind of supplement that will help aid the muscles i am building. I heard about whey protein, and thats seems the way to go, does anybody have a better idea? I just want to take a little something that will help me build the muscle, i am not looking into creatine and all of that, just maybe a protein boost. Any help would be appreciated...thanks.
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE (x80NyJeTs28x @ Jun 15 2005, 07:10 PM)
hey, liek i said before, i am going to be doing alot of training and lifting during the summer for next years baseball season.  I am looking into taking some kind of supplement that will help aid the muscles i am building.  I heard about whey protein, and thats seems the way to go, does anybody have a better idea?  I just want to take a little something that will help me build the muscle, i am not looking into creatine and all of that, just maybe a protein boost. Any help would be appreciated...thanks.

Isn't that steroids? Just not adding testosterone and not making your balls shrink.
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 11:50 PM

protein and creatine for that matter are natural, theyre in your body. eating a steak and drinking a protein shake are not much different at all. and by the way, im curious about what you mean when you said "....creatine and all that..." there are a lot of misconceptions about the stuff and from someone who takes it and knows 15-20 people that also take it, id recommend it to anyone. some people think its a steroid, some people think it fills your muscles with water and that bad, people think a lot of things, but most of them are wrong. it is not anykind of steroid and has nothing to do with testosterone or any hormones. creatine does put water into your muscles, but this is the best way ive heard it explained.....

when you are doing anaerobic exercises (lifting), your muscles burn off the water that is naturally in them first, then lactic acid comes into play and will most likely causes you to stop lifting. by bringing more water into you muscles, you can lift for longer.

i dont know all the science, but ive asked 2 doctors about health effects, and used it on and off for 2 years with nothing but 10-15 pounds and a ton more strength. not sure how much of it would have come if i didnt take it, but i am convinced that it helped a lot.

note: drink a lot of water to keep flushing out your kidneys. the only negative thing it can do is gum up in your kidneys if you dont stay hydrated, but most people stay hydrated anyway.

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 01:25 AM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jun 16 2005, 12:25 AM)
protein and creatine for that matter are natural, theyre in your body. eating a steak and drinking a protein shake are not much different at all. and by the way, im curious about what you mean when you said "....creatine and all that..." there are a lot of misconceptions about the stuff and from someone who takes it and knows 15-20 people that also take it, id recommend it to anyone. some people think its a steroid, some people think it fills your muscles with water and that bad, people think a lot of things, but most of them are wrong. it is not anykind of steroid and has nothing to do with testosterone or any hormones. creatine does put water into your muscles, but this is the best way ive heard it explained.....

when you are doing anaerobic exercises (lifting), your muscles burn off the water that is naturally in them first, then lactic acid comes into play and will most likely causes you to stop lifting. by bringing more water into you muscles, you can lift for longer.

i dont know all the science, but ive asked 2 doctors about health effects, and used it on and off for 2 years with nothing but 10-15 pounds and a ton more strength. not sure how much of it would have come if i didnt take it, but i am convinced that it helped a lot.

note: drink a lot of water to keep flushing out your kidneys. the only negative thing it can do is gum up in your kidneys if you dont stay hydrated, but most people stay hydrated anyway.


Taking a cheap vtamin suppleent like Milk Thistle Extract will help your kidneys out if you go heavy on the protein intake.
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 04:02 PM

this is an excerpt from mens health magazine, june 2005 issue...

"All creatine does is force fluid into the muscle; Your body will do that itself if there's enough water available"
-Carter Hays, C.S.C.S., a Houston-based personal trainer

no matter what supplement you use... the bottom line is putting in the work!!! glad to hear you guys are motivated... i may get my self to the gym one of these days too...
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 04:09 PM

CREATINE also helps your body to recover after a grueling workout. I train people in GOLDs GYm in Lexington, Ky and it works. But there is no excuse for not working hard in the gym. Milk Thistle will help your liver stay healthy but I also urge my trainees to stagger their CREATINE intake. They are on it a few months and then take a week off from it. That is recommended by ISSA. A great diet will do wonders for a body. Extra PROTEIN is not necessary at this time in your workouts. When you are into it and doing Cardio too, protein will help maintain your lean muscle mass and even add to it. BUT there is NO way around working out hard using a great range of motion and thoroughly challanging your muscles every workout!
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 05:12 PM

I am surprised that ISSA would actually have reccomendations for creatine... but thats good that they at least have some kind of suggestions for it...

you can use protein to help yourself recover along with things such as raisins to eliminate free radicals around a workout... i just do not like supplemetns... i realize that they help, and are convenient... and all the top models, athletes and actors use supplements like whoa... but i am a purist an dbelieve it should come from chicken and such...

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Posted 22 June 2005 - 08:33 PM

Been a cretaine user for years. I cycle every 2 months. Love that product.
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 03:50 PM

QUOTE (reg83ny @ Jun 22 2005, 10:08 PM)
Been a cretaine user for years. I cycle every 2 months. Love that product.

ME TOO! I am 67 years old and workout hard daily! Thank you CREATINE! fishfry.gif
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