NYJetsFan.com Forums: Nyjetsfan.com Members Are Idiots! - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

Jets vs Chiefs Sunday 4:30est
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
Resize Shouts Area

  • (2 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • This topic is locked

Nyjetsfan.com Members Are Idiots! The Chrebet argument shows why you guys should give up football!

#1 User is offline   The Fat Man Icon

  • Drafted Rookie
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 112
  • Joined: 04-December 05

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 09:23 PM

Just quit already! Church signs with my name on it! You guys are amazing. You will jump on any bandwagon that comes along. I have heard every excuse in the book about why Chrebet should have been on this team the last 3 years. Here is the breakdown..

1) He was poorly paid in the beginning of his career and deserved the rich contract he got the final 3 years becuase he deserved it! What a absurd post! You people continue to justify mediocrity with your typical lack of football knowledge and would choose blind loyalty just to argue over common sense!

2) He was injured and his stats suffered as a result and it wasn't his fault. The next time a Jet gets injured we should just forfeit the entire season. He made good money to sit on the trainers table. How did this help our team? He did'n't play and we paid him for poor performance. I could see the first year but the third year?

3) Other coaches cannot be wrong about their assessment of Chrebet's career. List of all available coaches and GM's were provided. Most of them never even offered Chrebet a tryout. In fact, I do not remember any of them saying ooohhhh we have to stop Chrebet (the last 3 years).

4) I also remember the last 2 years when he did play, he had key dropped passes and cost us games as well!

You idiots ban together and try to stop the Fatman's posts by responding in attacks and derogatory comments. The only problem is that you cannot justify the last 3 years of Bobblehead Chrebet's career. Flashlight was getting concussions the final 2 years from ordinary tackles. The San Diego tackle which resulted in his last concussion was not even a hard hit. Wayne bobbled his head off the ground. His poor play (against doctor orders) in the final years was selfish and hurt our team. I am glad he is retired! Now we can acutally have a receiver that will last a season. Al Toon knew when to quit. After a 1000 yard season and his 9th concussion, he played 9 more games the final year and quit the game. He did it for 2 reasons. 1-Doctors orders and 2-he did not want to hurt the team.

Chrebet was too selfish to leave the game. Keyshawn was right about him and you guys cannot handle the truth. So live in your fantasy world and continue to accept a poor product and keep up the unintelligent and baseless posts. You seem to be fighting for loyalty over winning anyway.
0

#2 User is offline   bluelinecop Icon

  • 04 L.F. Award/05 Best Mod Award/06 Best Sig Award
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 4,147
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey - Home of New York Jets Football.

  • NFL Team:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 09:29 PM

Your banned for 30 days. Have a nice weekend. drinks.gif


Fifteen years ago after an especially disappointing loss to Miami, Esiason, then the Jets' quarterback, was making the seven-mile drive from the Meadowlands back to Manhattan.
While he was slogging through stop-and-go traffic at the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel, the car next to him was violently rear-ended. The quarterback threw his car into park, hopped out and ran to the woman whose car had been hit. She was wearing, of all things, an Esiason jersey, and was utterly shocked when he tapped on her window to check on her.
"Are you OK?" he said, trying to keep calm. "Are you OK?"
"Boomer? Is that you?" she asked the Good Samaritan, sounding disoriented. "I think I'm OK, but . ... "
But what?
"But you guys sucked."
Welcome to the New York Jets, Tim Tebow.

http://modernworldphotography.com/
http://fineartameric...dos-santos.html
0

#3 User is offline   HarlemHxC814 Icon

  • 06 Best Avatar Award / N.O.P. GUARD
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 5,173
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 09:46 PM

Go Blueline! Hah, imagine what this forum would be like with FatMan, EvanstonJet, AND Kotex (remember him) all at the same time lol. Mods, great job of cleaning house with this kind of stuff.
Posted Image
0

#4 User is offline   ganggreen_ewok Icon

  • 06 M. I. P. Award
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,813
  • Joined: 18-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:MEOWSBURG
  • Interests:Strolling on shady streets, you know the usual

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 09:47 PM

drinks.gif yahoo.gif drinks.gif Thank you bluelinecop, you made my day. I hate being "insulted" by someone of lesser intelligence

View Postganggreen_ewok, on 13 June 2011 - 07:43 PM, said:

"And once again, the meow became a roar"


Posted Image
0

#5 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 17,137
  • Joined: 30-July 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 09:52 PM

This went to far with this topic, before this i thought he had a good point. But this was just attacking the whole forum. But i still think he has a good point about Chrebet.
Posted Image
0

#6 User is offline   Jetsfan115 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 23,879
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cali

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 10:06 PM

thanks blueline for doing what needed to be done. thats why you got voted best mod.
0

#7 User is offline   CrazyHorseDave Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 2,071
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 10:15 PM

Hey Guys .. I appreciate where your coming from .. but I started it

I wont apologize, but I dont know if fatman should be banned for calling me the same name I called him ...

http://nyjetsfan.com...=0&#entry105919

the only difference is I am right

and he should have taken aim at me instead of the whole board .. some of whom agreed with him
0

#8 User is offline   bigrob142 Icon

  • Line Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 754
  • Joined: 21-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:long branch nj
  • Interests:football, all sports and girls<br />love the jets, nets, yanks, and devils!

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 10:35 PM

hell yea! rock on blueline, couldnt stand that guy. O and Crazyhorsedave...- sweet sig!

0

#9 User is offline   S-Dubb Icon

  • 2008 Best Insider Award
  • Icon
  • View blog
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 31,145
  • Joined: 02-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:---
  • Interests:Hardcore Jets & Knicks fan - Gym rat - health and nutrition - family man and proud father.

    Twitter: @NYJETSFANCOM

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 10:44 PM

Call me crazy here but why was he banned!!, he never bashed any of us he had some kind of substance IMO.

That seems a bit harsh to me!.

0

#10 User is offline   gmany3k Icon

  • Old Timer
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8,303
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:AUSTIN,TX MALE member 2000-01

  • NFL Team:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 10:46 PM

I THINK "the fat man " was a bigger fan of keyshawn. and he hated chrebet because chrebet doesn't fit by his definition of a player . How many concusions would it take " THE FAT MAN " to change his point of view? So chrebet and al toon were not quiters they love the game more than most players. me I liked both keyshawn and chrebet both these guys are warriors and just like curtis said he was limitless to the point of winning at any cost.three jets I WOULD WANT TO BACK ME UP IN LIFE WOULD BE curtis ,wayne and keyshawn.
and there are many players over the years that would be to many here to list.

Dave when you spoke up and said you were to blame and to put the target on you I was thinking
yeah get naked and hold up a tire and running back and forth while we take aim while on david letterman.
The fat man a twisted charactor out of the batman movies. I think he is a Jet fan and maybe lighten his
sentence by 1/2 2006 best mod so far O B 1 . cool2.gif
21ST CENTURY NEW YORK STATE OF MIND ."REST IN PEACE NIGHT OWL TOM"Use Caution when reading my comments>.Posted Image
0

#11 User is offline   Chadforpresidentin08 Icon

  • 05 M. I. P. Award/06 Teen MVP Award
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 6,029
  • Joined: 01-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Illinois (Originally from New York)
  • Interests:Jets and Yanks

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 10:50 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Jun 9 2006, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Call me crazy here but why was he banned!!, he never bashed any of us he had some kind of substance IMO.

That seems a bit harsh to me!.

Outside of calling all of us idiots, I really don't see what the problem is myself. beach.gif Nice job Blueline!!! drinks.gif drinks.gif
Also, if we jump on any bandwagon that comes along, how come we're still Jet fans. hysterical.gif
"You ask, what is our aim?... It is victory, victory at all cost" Winston Churchill.
Member since March 25, 2005.
0

#12 Guest_JCBizkit87_*

  • Group: Guests

Posted 09 June 2006 - 10:52 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Jun 10 2006, 04:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Call me crazy here but why was he banned!!, he never bashed any of us he had some kind of substance IMO.

That seems a bit harsh to me!.


Ok, I will call you crazy, because you wont to know why he was banned, and you said that he has never bashed any of us on this website.

Sdubb... look at the topic. I think calling us idiots, might be bashing us.
0

#13 User is offline   ganggreen_ewok Icon

  • 06 M. I. P. Award
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,813
  • Joined: 18-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:MEOWSBURG
  • Interests:Strolling on shady streets, you know the usual

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 11:08 PM

Also its one thing to express your opinion. Its another thing to personally attack people who don't agree with you. And its another thing when you start another topic after the first broo-ha-ha you started had just settled.

View Postganggreen_ewok, on 13 June 2011 - 07:43 PM, said:

"And once again, the meow became a roar"


Posted Image
0

#14 User is offline   LeonhardSkynyrd36 Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,854
  • Joined: 29-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:ATL GA
  • Interests:Progression

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 11:47 PM

thumbs down on the banning, the man was doing nothing but stating his opinion

and if you blame it on the name called, most people on this site do it (jcbizkit off the top of my head) and he doesnt get banned.... so basically u banned him cuz he didnt like a certain athlete??

WHACK
ColesReturns87
0

#15 User is offline   jets0n Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: MOD SS
  • Posts: 7,513
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Atlanta | A-Town | The Dirty South

  • NFL Team:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 11:51 PM

Good... like he gives a lick if he's here anyway. Seriously, who cares about Chrebet. He called all of us idiots. That includes EVERYONE that posts here. All he does is antagonize the shit out of all of us. I'm glad he's gone. I don't think he ever contributed positively to this site ever.

Good job Blueline, nice that you were the first to post too. I love the reply too. BANNED!
0

#16 User is offline   ganggreen_ewok Icon

  • 06 M. I. P. Award
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,813
  • Joined: 18-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:MEOWSBURG
  • Interests:Strolling on shady streets, you know the usual

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 09 June 2006 - 11:59 PM

QUOTE (ColesReturns87 @ Jun 10 2006, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thumbs down on the banning, the man was doing nothing but stating his opinion

and if you blame it on the name called, most people on this site do it (jcbizkit off the top of my head) and he doesnt get banned.... so basically u banned him cuz he didnt like a certain athlete??

WHACK


Who doesn't name call? I name call. But its when someone does it directly to set off a reaction of emotions at a board where he knows how people will react: with fact and reasoning, in order to defend their own opinion. This isn't the ganggreen forum where posters belittle each other constantly, this is an intelligent message board where people deserve to not have to deal with the douchebags who come in just to antagonize members. Once again, bravo bluelinecop

View Postganggreen_ewok, on 13 June 2011 - 07:43 PM, said:

"And once again, the meow became a roar"


Posted Image
0

#17 User is offline   jets0n Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: MOD SS
  • Posts: 7,513
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Atlanta | A-Town | The Dirty South

  • NFL Team:

Posted 10 June 2006 - 12:02 AM

^
Slow clap.......

If you don't understand that it essentially means "I agree and I don't care if I'm the first guy to start clapping for that response."

He even spelled douche bag right. Good post.
0

#18 User is offline   S-Dubb Icon

  • 2008 Best Insider Award
  • Icon
  • View blog
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 31,145
  • Joined: 02-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:---
  • Interests:Hardcore Jets & Knicks fan - Gym rat - health and nutrition - family man and proud father.

    Twitter: @NYJETSFANCOM

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 10 June 2006 - 12:05 AM

Well personally I don't give 2 shit's about fatslob but I was just making a point. People don't get banned by calling people idoits because if that was the case we'd all be banned.

Basically if he was banned for calling people an idiot that is whack reguarless if we couldn't stand them or not.

I guess it's guilty untill proven innocent with cops now-a-days. cool2.gif biggrin.gif

0

#19 User is offline   jets0n Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: MOD SS
  • Posts: 7,513
  • Joined: 31-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Atlanta | A-Town | The Dirty South

  • NFL Team:

Posted 10 June 2006 - 12:10 AM

My view on it is this: This kid cares only about getting a rise out of everyone.


Personally he's wasting my time with his worthless posts and when I see an authored title reading "NYJetsfans members are idiots" I've about had enough of his attention seeking bullshit. Though I can see where you're coming from. You have to look at the principle more than the law in this case. This kid, and I call him a kid for a reason, does nothing but cause contraversy on this site. It'll be alot more peaceful once he's gone.
0

#20 Guest_JCBizkit87_*

  • Group: Guests

Posted 10 June 2006 - 01:06 AM

QUOTE (ColesReturns87 @ Jun 10 2006, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thumbs down on the banning, the man was doing nothing but stating his opinion

and if you blame it on the name called, most people on this site do it (jcbizkit off the top of my head) and he doesnt get banned.... so basically u banned him cuz he didnt like a certain athlete??

WHACK


I don't mean to be critical, but what person would compare me to this guy. I at least give credit to a player when credit is due. You can say your opinion that you think the banning is bad, which it is not because he did infact insult every single person on this site, while I only insult idiots like Evanston, and this guy for example. He even insulted yourself, and yet you still take is side, that makes a whole lot of sense.
0

  • (2 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • This topic is locked

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users