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MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:53 PM) BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 02:12 AM) Jets playoff hopes are seriously on the edge of going down the drain with all the close records, tie breakers and better division win %.Steelers and Chiefs are prime for the 2 wild card spots. Jets pretty much need to run the table at this point for even a shot at a wildcard.
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 02:14 AM) Sucks big time after the season started so promising. 4-1 to total implosion. It sucks even more because we are so used to it we expect it every year now.
vjdbbq Icon : (23 November 2015 - 08:52 AM) Nice ass rob
MikeGangGree... Icon : (23 November 2015 - 12:31 PM) Jets cut copels today
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ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:39 PM) vjdbbq you have some serious metal and IQ issues. Why dont you go back to your old ways of never posting when you had only 5 or 6 posts since your join date in 07.
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ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:49 PM) Thanks for the news MGG. If the FO didn't try to shop him before the trade deadline it was stupid because releasing him now they get nothing. Maybe no one would've traded but if so even a 6th or 7th round draft pick or someone the team might be able to use would've been better than nothing
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:51 PM) He sucked this year but did have a career best 6.5 sacks in 2014 so a team change might work out for him.
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) Couples will land on the Bills when Rex grabs him off waivers
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 07:37 PM) in the mean time does anyone think we would have a better record under Rex with this same team?
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 07:53 PM) Couples....it wouldn't surprise me and .....with Rex its hard to tell. His defensive scheming may be the best in football but this team has had a lot of injuries on both sides of the ball which has absolutely cost the team at least 3 games ......so as far as better record. it would be simply an opinion. Bowles has done a good job so I have no problems with him other than time out usage. That said I feel rex got a bad rap because he never had a qb even on Fitz caliber and Fitz is just average. But that is in the past so no sense even debating about it now. Rex is with a new team and we finally have a qb who doesn't completely suck. Still wish we had a true high level franchise qb though.
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:34 PM) Watching the game and I am finding myself yelling at the bills offensive playcalling
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:34 PM) Just stipupidity
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:35 PM) run the ball every time on first and second with zero sucess
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:36 PM) Out D is no where near as good as it should be under Bowles. I'm not sure why. I guess it's easy to blame Bowles but the bend and don't break philosophy isn't working
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:39 PM) They should ban that pick play.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (23 November 2015 - 11:54 PM) As bad as we have played lately we are still a better coached team without Rex. Rex still has no clue how to manage the clock
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 November 2015 - 12:03 AM) See. Can't manage the clock
vjdbbq Icon : (24 November 2015 - 08:05 AM) Hello Rob
vjdbbq Icon : (24 November 2015 - 08:06 AM) They cut coples to save money in case he got hurt practicing since he hardly played ; a business move .
Jetsfan115 Icon : (24 November 2015 - 12:58 PM) our D was better with shit CBs last year. rex is just better at calling a defense then bowles
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 02:37 PM) coples picked up by miami. we play him on sunday now lol
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:08 PM) We need a real edge rusher
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:08 PM) We are gonna trade Richardson or Wilkerson after this season, hopefully we can then get a edge rusher to compliment them
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:10 PM) I never wanted the Jets to draft Coples, he was clearly going to be a bust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:10 PM) hes not athletic enough for OLB either, doesn't have enough fluidity in the hips. He can be a decent player, but he needs to be a interior pass rusher
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Posted 16 June 2006 - 12:01 AM

What Do You Think Of Testosterone Replacements?

Copyright ¿ 2006 Will BrinkBrink


Q: Dear Will, I am a 62 year old male who found the bodybuildinglife style about ten years ago, so I started out a little late.My testosterone has been clinical low (under 300ng/dl) for thepast 3 years. I want to start hormone replacement therapy and I doctor agrees it would be a good idea for me. He wants to use standard testosterone enanthate. However, from my reading on thetopic, wouldn't a less androgenic steroid like Primobolin be better? Charles Linquest, Monroe WI, 53566

A: Good question Charles, and I will do my best to answer it.Though you may have started out later than some, it's never toolate to derive benefit from the bodybuilding life style! For your use, that is hormone replacement therapy (HRT), I wouldagree with your doctor here. Low androgen is not by default a good thing and the androgenicaspects of testosterone have many important functions on the malebody. For example, a recent study compared testosterone enanthateand methenolone enanthate (Primobolin) in men for HRT.

The study was called "Hormone replacement therapy for older menusing testosterone enanthate or methenolone enanthate. (Int JAndrol 2000 Jan;23(1):300-6)." As most people know, as men age,testosterone levels decline and is commonly referred to as"andropause." This slow steady decline in testosterone levels has a negativeeffect on mood, sexual performance, libido, bone mass, musclemass and the immune system.

Not good! Predictably, themedical/scientific community has taken an interest in HRT formen. Some doctors worry about possible adverse effects of HRTwith testosterone on the prostate, cholesterol levels, etc.

However, it's clear from the studies we have that this pointthat too little testosterone is just as bad for you, if notworse, than too much testosterone. The real goal of HRT with menis of course to keep testosterone in the optimal range, say themid to high normal range found in a young healthy male. That's approximately 500-600ng/dl but it can vary depending on which labyou use.

Ok, back to the study. In this study 100mg per week of Primobolanwas given via injection to 10 men aged 52-78 years old who were diagnosed as being low in testosterone (i.e. hypogonadal). Testosterone enanthate was administered at the same dose andfrequency to another group of hypogonadal men (n=9, aged 54-77years old).

Both groups got these doses for 8 weeks. The researchers looked body composition (measured by DEXA scan), mood(sense of well-being), sexual activity, libido, and check bothgroups prostates pre and post treatment.. They also looked at both groups testosterone levels, estradiol (estrogen) levels, andblood cholesterol levels. Interestingly, they didn't find significant changes in body composition (muscle mass, bodyfat, etc) in either group.

More important perhaps, the group receiving the Primobolan reported asignificant decrease in sexual activity and libido, and an increase in prostate size at the end of the study period, with a73% decrease in serum estradiol relative to baseline. Four weeks after the last dose, everything went back to Normal however, showing at least the effect was reversible.

Things went much better for the testosterone group, as they had an increase in sexual activity and libido with no adverse effects found onany of the tested parameters. The researchers concluded thattestosterone was clearly a superior choice for HRT in men withlow testosterone levels, which really should come as no surprise to people. Of course this study does not answer all questions, was not alarge study (though there are others), was low dose, and only ran8 weeks, but it does show that testosterone is not the big bad boogie man steroid the media would like us to believe it is and clearly has therapeutic uses for men.

It's interesting that neither group had any statistically significant changes in body composition, but its what most bodybuilders already know; you need higher doses to get that effect, and you need to lift some weights! Low androgen steroids like "Primo" have their uses for sure, but for older menseeking to get the benafits of HRT, testosterone is still king inmy view.

Will Brink writes for numerous health, fitness, medical, and bodybuilding publications. His articles can be found in Life Extension Magazine, Muscle n Fitness, Inside Karate, Exercise For Men Only, Oxygen, Women's World, The Townsend Letter For Doctors and many more. His website is http://www.brinkzone.com


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