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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 03:04 PM

I posted these last night. IN THE PROPER FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 03:15 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Aug 10 2006, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1st madden is correct on barrett the guy is a very good corner and at this point is better then miller.

a few guys i feel are underated are
Vilma only a 92?
Jones at 79? he was our best lineman lats year at RT and LT he should be an 85ish
dyson at 84? no way he should be an 88 or 89
rhodes ahould be an 80 at least

also why is coles speed still a 98? he's not THAT fast. and why is vilma only a 83 for speed?

i'm suprised ellis got the recognition he deserves as a 93 but no way is he better then vilma

Jones was out best lineman but he wasn't great. He's right where he should be...Ask Jason Taylor how good Adrian Jones is.
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 04:23 PM

Look at our line...Im gonna run all damn day to the left side
Kendall-88
Teague-86
Brick-85

Moore-86
Jones-79
Clement-78
Mangold-83





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Posted 10 August 2006 - 04:32 PM

Teague will be on the injury list for a while though.
Brick is our Best o-linemen on the team in this game. Look at his footwork for pass block, its like 98, also his impact blocking is 95.
He is a beast in the game Brick.

Remember last year our offensive line was this on the left side.
Fabini 90, Kendall, 93, Mawae 98.
That was a great left side to run to.
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 04:34 PM

when the game comes out martin and teague will both be on there





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Posted 10 August 2006 - 04:36 PM

idk about you guys but im gunna put mangold infront of teague. even if teague is rated higher.

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE (penningtonpays @ Aug 10 2006, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
idk about you guys but im gunna put mangold infront of teague. even if teague is rated higher.

yea I probaly will too, just because I like Mangold more, and Mangold will be starting this year for us.
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 05:23 PM

QUOTE (EnRiCH13 @ Aug 10 2006, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look at our line...Im gonna run all damn day to the left side
Kendall-88
Teague-86
Brick-85

Moore-86
Jones-79
Clement-78
Mangold-83


thats what i do on 06 with the rookies imported.
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Posted 10 August 2006 - 06:13 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Aug 10 2006, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ellis is the same rating as Abraham. They are both 93.


my guess is that ellis is a balanced end whereas abraham is prob strictly a pass rusher

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Posted 10 August 2006 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (bigrob142 @ Aug 10 2006, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
my guess is that ellis is a balanced end whereas abraham is prob strictly a pass rusher


Exactly!!. In madden his just not effective. Ellis is better on the run. Overall Ellis is better to have in madden.
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 04:06 PM

I think they slighted smith on his awareness by far also Vilma should have been a 95 or 96
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (BradSmith16 @ Aug 11 2006, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think they slighted smith on his awareness by far also Vilma should have been a 95 or 96

NO WAY!!!

he talked about another player...Congrats


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Posted 11 August 2006 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE (BradSmith16 @ Aug 11 2006, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think they slighted smith on his awareness by far also Vilma should have been a 95 or 96


They slighted him on his speed. Mannie Lawson is 89 speed!. Hellooooooooo!! and I agree with Vilma. 92?, he was 92 in the update on 06. Atleast 93. Damn fags
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Aug 11 2006, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They slighted him on his speed. Mannie Lawson is 89 speed!. Hellooooooooo!! and I agree with Vilma. 92?, he was 92 in the update on 06. Atleast 93. Damn fags


Lawson did run an astounding 4.43 at the combine
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (Abe56 @ Aug 11 2006, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lawson did run an astounding 4.43 at the combine


so did vilam but vilma proved he has "game speed" as well laeson hans't
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 05:14 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Aug 11 2006, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so did vilam but vilma proved he has "game speed" as well laeson hans't


VIlma ran a 4.54 and watching Lawson at N.C. State you could tell how fast he is, Vilma deserves like 86 speed and Lawson 88
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE (Abe56 @ Aug 11 2006, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
VIlma ran a 4.54 and watching Lawson at N.C. State you could tell how fast he is, Vilma deserves like 86 speed and Lawson 88


college game speed is different then NFL game speed. if it wasn't then clarett and dayne would be stars
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Aug 11 2006, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
college game speed is different then NFL game speed. if it wasn't then clarett and dayne would be stars

Clarett missed 2 full seasons of football and was out of shape at the combine and camp.
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 06:34 PM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Aug 11 2006, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clarett missed 2 full seasons of football and was out of shape at the combine and camp.


dayne was a hiesman winner and was a hard worker. what about him?
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Posted 11 August 2006 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Aug 11 2006, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dayne was a hiesman winner and was a hard worker. what about him?

He was never going to be anything special as a runningback. It was a bad pick by the Giants because he was at best a 2nd round pick coming out of college. NFLDraftCountdown.com knew that and they do know their shit.

He should have been taken later and used solely for short yardage situations.
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