QUOTE (JSOTF @ Apr 15 2005, 03:21 PM)
Wow, this is some DEEP Shit.....I have left this alone for some time, but I will now rant....
Why do we care what Mr. Bush did in the National Guard? We didnt give a crap with Mr. Clinton? He took his sorry ass to Canada. Has any of you folks served this country? If you haven't, why do you care about Iraq? It is like everything in America, If it doesn't affect you, who the hell cares. Bottom line is the president doesnt have 100% of the power....
I have served for 11 years now in the US Army, I have missed the last 4 Christmas's and the birth of my twins, along with countless significant family events. I have served in 4 different combat zones. I was just injured during my 2nd tour in Iraq. I see the news on TV and all that is ever talked about is the negative things. Soldiers killing injured Iraqis' soldiers doing this, that. All negative. There are never stories of the positive things that are going on.
Maybe Iraq was a bad idea...I mean Sadam was as peacefull innocent man..he never wanted to hurt anyone....If you think that he had/has no weopons of mass destruction over there, your are on some good stuff....You should pull convoy security with me for an hour....you will change your mind... ...
In this day in age we have to understand a few things...there is alot of things that go on that everyday civilians could not fathom..
..but if my service in Iraq, Afganistan, Bosnia and Africa mean that our country will not have a repeat of 9-11-2001.....I will do it all over again....and I don't want any 'Thank You's'....Just make sure it never happens again....
I hope as much as anybody that the killing in Iraq ends as soon as possible. We live in an ugly world, where people die or get addicted to drugs or are born with mental and physical deformities or have any number of other horrible things happen to them everyday. It isn't pleasant, and the answers to the problems aren't easy, if there are any. But I'll be damned if anyone is going to convince me we went to Iraq for "the right reasons."
Saddam was bad. The people he had around him were bad. His children were sadistic bastards. And their are countries all over the world ruled by evil dictators. Many of them are men that the US has put into place after American assisted coups. Some of the countries are less democratic now than they were before. And yet have we attacked any of them? North Korea actually has
nuclear weapons (as opposed to Iraq, which we have yet to discover), but we don't do anything to them. This war was about oil. An oil rich country that wasn't doing what we (the US as run by oilmen) wanted and we used any reason possible to attack.
This war has little to do with 9-11 and terrorism. There have been plenty of documents showing that Saddam wasn't hiding Al'Queda or that he even had relations with them. What "proof" was used to justify the war has been exposed repeatedly as faulty, and should have been better checked before engaging in a war that lead to several years worth of deaths.
Besides that, 9-11 wasn't some random act of violence. It was a direct reponse to US overinvolvement in the middle east. As I've already said, America hasn't shown it really cares about countries that don't affect it financially. The only reason the US props up Israel is because they want an ally in that area of the world. If we kept our troops and money out of there we would have a lot less enemies in the Arab countries.
And JSTOF, do people who haven't served in the military not get to have an opinon on war? Because very few persidents in history have had true military experience. This "war" IS Bush's war (it was never offically a war, as can only be declared by Congress). It was him and the people he selected to surrond himself with. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, etc. Outside of Powell, none of them have been in a gun fight.
Also, I bet there are plenty of things that haven't affected you that you don't give a shit about. Unfortunatly, that is the way it works. Very few people can bear the burden of facing all causes at one time. I try to help people. My sister, brother, and several close friends of mine have all had severe forms of cancer. That one strikes especially close to heart, along with a few other topics. My brother has been an alcholic and has abused drugs all his life. He has four kids, three of whom have lived in my and my parent's homes for various periods, as has he. But I can repsect someone who has never had to deal with addiction having an opinon.
As I said, I wish no one had to die with a gun in their hands on foreign land. I respect anyone who will fight for what they believe in and those who fight even if they don't think it is right. THe world is better without Saddam, yes. But so are a lot of important American's pocketbooks. In the mean time, a lot of people have died and been made to suffer so a few dozen people could die richer.