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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 08:49 PM

I have more than a good feeling about gang green this year. I know we all say that every season but I think this season it means something. Every team in the AFC East is crippled in someway besides us, for example, Bruschi's stroke (loss of leadership on the defensive side of the ball, Richard Seymour (major blow to the pass rush even though he might show up or not chances are he will miss some camp), Patriots O-line not as powerful as last year, Miami (rebuilding, or at least thats what they like to call to busy sucking) baghead.gif , and Buffalo will be normal Buffalo, you can count on them from anywhere from 8-8 to 10-6 but as usual they are missing that special peice that no one can ever put there finger on. Truth is, the Jets are coming, and with the Pete Hunter addition, its just another step in the right (young) direction. He will be a big force in the secondary. He is 6-2 215 with a 4.34 40 time, so he can handle the likes Chambers, Moulds, Lee Evan, David Terrell. With this addition we acquired something that we have never truly had, CONTAINMENT. You will see that the number of 40 yard or more pass plays that they give up will decrease dramtically. What dd you guys think???
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:04 AM

Yeah I'm sure Brady and Manning just cut short their vacations to study some film on Hunter. Thank God that every other team in the division is falling apart and there's nothing but positive news about the Jets. Fair and balanced, right? wink.gif
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:13 AM

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Yeah I'm sure Brady and Manning just cut short their vacations to study some film on Hunter. Thank God that every other team in the division is falling apart and there's nothing but positive news about the Jets. Fair and balanced, right?


give me a *beep*ing break. what do jets fans owe a *beep*ing pats fan in a jets forum? why the *beep* should we feel the need to be "fair and *beep*ing balanced" towards enemy teams in a jets forum? because a patsy is watching what we write? get a life. go to a *beep*ing pats forum and see how fair and balanced they are. if your "fair and balanced" you'll realize that your patsy bretheren aren't so "fair and balanced" towards enemy teams.

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i didn't realize he had a 4.34 40 time. nice.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:00 AM

QUOTE (LocoJet @ Jul 15 2005, 12:48 AM)
give me a *beep*ing break. what do jets fans owe a *beep*ing pats fan in a jets forum? why the *beep* should we feel the need to be "fair and *beep*ing balanced" towards enemy teams in a jets forum? because a patsy is watching what we write? get a life. go to a *beep*ing pats forum and see how fair and balanced they are. if your "fair and balanced" you'll realize that your patsy bretheren aren't so "fair and balanced" towards enemy teams.

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:07 AM

QUOTE (LocoJet @ Jul 15 2005, 01:48 AM)
give me a *beep*ing break. what do jets fans owe a *beep*ing pats fan in a jets forum? why the *beep* should we feel the need to be "fair and *beep*ing balanced" towards enemy teams in a jets forum? because a patsy is watching what we write? get a life. go to a *beep*ing pats forum and see how fair and balanced they are. if your "fair and balanced" you'll realize that your patsy bretheren aren't so "fair and balanced" towards enemy teams.

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i didn't realize he had a 4.34 40 time. nice.

Why do I have a feeling the look of that cheerleader's uniform is going to "lose something" once you're the one posing in it? kiss2.gif
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 08:48 AM

Ok. Yes all the other teams took hits but so did we with a john abe holdout, our number 1 CB retiring on a weak unit and our QB fresh off an injury so I wouldn’t say everything is great for us. I see us and the pats battling for the division this year.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 09:22 AM

LOL .. I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER LICK THE PATS BALLS LIKE YOU GUYS DO! PATHETIC!

Number 1: The Pats lost not 1 but 2 coordinators who are considered LARGELY the sole reason that the Pats were as good as they were.

Number 2: Lost the leader to the defense in Bruschi. You tell me how good the Ravens would be without leader Ray Lewis telling them what to do.

Number 3: The last time Belichick called offensive plays he was fired from the Browns.

So you tell me that how us losing a weak link in our defense has anything to do with the amount of loss that the Pats have. Not only that but Justin Miller is gonna be a great player for us. Chad is repeatedly throwing 30 yard zingers to his wideouts and says his shoulder feels better than it ever did after fixing some previous injuries. What have the Pats done? Who is their signal caller on defense? Lest I remind you who is calling the plays on offense? And MARK THESE WORDS: Tom Brady will show how *beep*ty he really is as a QB when they make him have to think on his own cause Daddy Weis isn't around. He did that against the Dolphins and blew a 4th quater lead [ which was some sort of record ] and threw 2 ints to lose the game to one of the worst teams in the NFL last year.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 09:34 AM

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Why do I have a feeling the look of that cheerleader's uniform is going to "lose something" once you're the one posing in it? 


you seemed to have missed the point. my point was that your a hypocrite. why don't you go to a patsy forum and lecture them about being fair and balanced towards enemy teams? you don't because your a hypocrite. you get it now?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 10:44 AM

Honestly all boards are pretty biased but honestly I think this one has some of the most rational and realistic fans out there. Of course all boeards have the completely biased and unrational people. I’m talking about a majority of people here are pretty reasonable. Night owl your probably one of the most biased people here. Your pretyy honost about other teams but when it comes to the pats you always get too defensive like they are untouchable. And you also seem to foget most fans in out there care more about the red sox one win then the pats 3 combined.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 11:05 AM

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you seemed to have missed the point. my point was that your a hypocrite. why don't you go to a patsy forum and lecture them about being fair and balanced towards enemy teams? you don't because your a hypocrite. you get it now?

Actually it was difficult to tell what your point was with all of the *beeps* through your post. I thought that you were trying to tell me that the new Jets logo was going to be a roadrunner. B-E-E-P beeps beeps beeps? Nah I don't think it's gonna work. Stay with the Jets thing rolleyes.gif
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 10:57 AM)
LOL .. I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER LICK THE PATS BALLS LIKE YOU GUYS DO! PATHETIC!

Number 1: The Pats lost not 1 but 2 coordinators who are considered LARGELY the sole reason that the Pats were as good as they were.

Number 2: Lost the leader to the defense in Bruschi. You tell me how good the Ravens would be without leader Ray Lewis telling them what to do.

Number 3: The last time Belichick called offensive plays he was fired from the Browns.

So you tell me that how us losing a weak link in our defense has anything to do with the amount of loss that the Pats have. Not only that but Justin Miller is gonna be a great player for us. Chad is repeatedly throwing 30 yard zingers to his wideouts and says his shoulder feels better than it ever did after fixing some previous injuries. What have the Pats done? Who is their signal caller on defense? Lest I remind you who is calling the plays on offense? And MARK THESE WORDS: Tom Brady will show how *beep*ty he really is as a QB when they make him have to think on his own cause Daddy Weis isn't around. He did that against the Dolphins and blew a 4th quater lead [ which was some sort of record ] and threw 2 ints to lose the game to one of the worst teams in the NFL last year.

I could defend this post but instead I'll just say you're absolutely right. No doubt about it. The Patriots are in total disarray and Belichick cries in his office every night because Charlie knew where to get really good pizza. The pressure of Super Bowls was nothing compared to Brady's calling a few audibles this year and he'll suffer a nervous breakdown right on the field. Bruschi is absolutely gone for the season. All of the workouts, running and classroom work he's doing are nothing more than a smokescreen. Belichick has been living a lie all of these years as well. He has never drawn up a game plan or actually overruled Charlie Weis on a playcall and will be exposed as a coaching "lightweight". The stories Roger Staubach has told of an 11 year old Belichick studying film for him at Navy looking for opposition tendencies--all lies. All of this makes the Jets now a prohibitive favorite to go to Detroit. Now can I be an honorary Jets fan?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 11:49 AM

QUOTE (nightowl @ Jul 15 2005, 12:14 PM)
I could defend this post but instead I'll just say you're absolutely right. No doubt about it. The Patriots are in total disarray and Belichick cries in his office every night because Charlie knew where to get really good pizza. The pressure of Super Bowls was nothing compared to Brady's calling a few audibles this year and he'll suffer a nervous breakdown right on the field. Bruschi is absolutely gone for the season.  All of the workouts, running and classroom work he's doing are nothing more than a smokescreen. Belichick has been living a lie all of these years as well. He has never drawn up a game plan or actually overruled Charlie Weis on a playcall and will be exposed as a coaching "lightweight". The stories Roger Staubach has told of an 11 year old Belichick studying film for him at Navy looking for opposition tendencies--all lies. All of this makes the Jets now a prohibitive favorite to go to Detroit.  Now can I be an honorary Jets fan?


See, just when I thought your posts were enteraining, there you go taking it to the extremes. The poster just wanted you to admit that not everything in Pats land is rosey...there are concerns to be addressed and like it or not, they are reality.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:16 PM

I dunno I think Pat fans have the right to be over-biased, since for the past couple years everything the Pats do works out. Why should they think it will stop? They are the team to beat until someone beats them. Let's be real here if the Jets were in the middle of a dynasty with 3 superbowl rings in 4 years wouldn't we act the same way? And just for the record NightOwl has shown his football smarts on here time and time again making many Jet fans look like little kids, just my opinion. And remeber it will just be sweeter when the Jets finally pull it off and beat the Pats.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:21 PM

I don’t diminish anything the pats do the fact is all 32 teams have questions coming into the season. That’s what a salary cap does. If there was non we wouldn’t have lost any free agents and we would have signed a CB
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:28 PM

QUOTE (Hermanator @ Jul 15 2005, 01:24 PM)
See, just when I thought your posts were enteraining, there you go taking it to the extremes.  The poster just wanted you to admit that not everything in Pats land is rosey...there are concerns to be addressed and like it or not, they are reality.

This is the second time you've come after me about this stuff. The last time with great bombast you said that I didn't have the stones to admit that any Jets were better than any Patriots. What did I do? I gave you a list of Jets that I thought were better and called you out to do the same, admitting which Patriots players were better than the Jets. What was your response? You disappeared from the thread. Let me ask you about these statements that drew my post. Do you know FOR A FACT as to whether or not Bruschi will play? According to the post above he's done. In the above post we're CERTAIN that a rookie corner will be an exceptional NFL player before he takes a single snap yet a coach with five Super Bowl rings and a coaching background that goes back to the 1960's will assuredly be a DISASTER at play calling. Brady's gonna crumble under pressure NOW after showing such great composure in the NFL's biggest games? Make a rational point and I'll respond in a rational manner. But it's not a one way street.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:38 PM

QUOTE (nightowl @ Jul 15 2005, 11:03 AM)
This is the second time you've come after me about this stuff. The last time with great bombast you said that I didn't have the stones to admit that any Jets were better than any Patriots. What did I do? I gave you a list of Jets that I thought were better and called you out to do the same, admitting which Patriots players were better than the Jets. What was your response? You disappeared from the thread. Let me ask you about these statements that drew my post. Do you know FOR A FACT as to whether or not Bruschi will play? According to the post above he's done. In the above post we're CERTAIN that a rookie corner will be an exceptional NFL player before he takes a single snap yet a coach with five Super Bowl rings and a coaching background that goes back to the 1960's will assuredly be a DISASTER at play calling. Brady's gonna crumble under pressure NOW after showing such great composure in the NFL's biggest games? Make a rational point and I'll respond in a rational manner.  But it's not a one way street.


Do u have a split personality? Cause sometimes u make good points and good posts and sometimes you just up the pats u know what. Lol.

But in all seriousness (despite our one argument a while ago on the CBs) I thik your for the most part a pretty good poster. And I think the fact that u don’t get attacked on here (us being jet fans and u a pats fans) does show a lot of class on our part to have an intelligent conversation about football. Don’t u agree

FYI I know your not talking to me in your post. I just wanted to jump in
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (nightowl @ Jul 15 2005, 02:03 PM)
This is the second time you've come after me about this stuff. The last time with great bombast you said that I didn't have the stones to admit that any Jets were better than any Patriots. What did I do? I gave you a list of Jets that I thought were better and called you out to do the same, admitting which Patriots players were better than the Jets. What was your response? You disappeared from the thread. Let me ask you about these statements that drew my post. Do you know FOR A FACT as to whether or not Bruschi will play? According to the post above he's done. In the above post we're CERTAIN that a rookie corner will be an exceptional NFL player before he takes a single snap yet a coach with five Super Bowl rings and a coaching background that goes back to the 1960's will assuredly be a DISASTER at play calling. Brady's gonna crumble under pressure NOW after showing such great composure in the NFL's biggest games? Make a rational point and I'll respond in a rational manner.  But it's not a one way street.


You're an absolute moron. Go away. You speak about being reasonable and rational yet you are completely irrational. Hypocritical as well for saying that we aren't making rational points. Let me ask you a question: If Belichick is so great, then why even hire Coordinators? All you do is say, "Nope, Belichick is god." and "Nope Brady is totally composed." What kind of bullshit statements are you making? You know nothing about football except that the Patriots have won 3 Superbowls. If I were you I wouldn't critizise people on this board, I have seen all kinds of people and the power hitters here know EXACTLY what they are talking about. Half the time we are critizising our own team you idiot. I got an idea, now that Belichick deforced his wife why dont you make a run at being his gay partner, with all the loveliness you talk about him I am sure you could win his gay little heart.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:44 PM

Its post like that, that make people on this site look dumb
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 02:17 PM)
You're an absolute moron. Go away. You speak about being reasonable and rational yet you are completely irrational. Hypocritical as well for saying that we aren't making rational points. Let me ask you a question: If Belichick is so great, then why even hire Coordinators? All you do is say, "Nope, Belichick is god." and "Nope Brady is totally composed." What kind of bullshit statements are you making? You know nothing about football except that the Patriots have won 3 Superbowls. If I were you I wouldn't critizise people on this board, I have seen all kinds of people and the power hitters here know EXACTLY what they are talking about. Half the time we are critizising our own team you idiot. I got an idea, now that Belichick deforced his wife why dont you make a run at being his gay partner, with all the loveliness you talk about him I am sure you could win his gay little heart.

You sound bitter somehow wink.gif and he didn't deforce her. They're just severated...
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:47 PM

Now you are winking at me like you got me riled up or something? I told you go after Billy the Queer not me. And of course I needed to set you straight cause you think you can attack our knowledge of football because you are a Pats fan and you are in denial.
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