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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (04 March 2015 - 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:48 AM) Vince Wilfork will be a FA. Pats will not pick up his $8 million option. Looks like they are gearing up to keep Revis.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:35 AM) Bears shopping Marshall for a mid round pick
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:31 PM) What does his contract look like? Offer a 7th conditional 6th if we do something if the $$s are right.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:37 PM) He is almost due 9.6 million this year and has 2 years left. He is defiantly better than Harvin although a little older @ 30
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:55 PM) I'd rather sign Maclin or Cobb and then draft a WR early
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:55 PM) I am not real big on Cobb. I think he is a poor mans Harvin. Living in WI I watch most Packer games. He does have talent and he is a good receiver but without Rogers he will not be very good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:27 PM) looks like David Harris will go to the Bills, and I'm fine with that. Hes getting older and declining.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) i guess davis takes the MLB spot then pace on one side. who is on the other? barnes
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) babin maybe?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) coples moves to DE, richardson to DT, snacks at DT and wilk at DE
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:59 PM) its too early to tell. Our roster is not anywhere near where it will be come opening day.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:00 PM) Couples has had the most success when he was in a 4 man front though.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:19 PM) no
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS NOTHING BUT CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:32 PM

QUOTE (Hermanator @ Jul 15 2005, 02:56 PM)
Nightowl, I didn't disappear from a thread.  Just didn't keep up with it.  I am a very busy man running a business and can't really keep up with all the responses in threads.  To be honest, I can't believe I'm even engaging with a fan from another team on a Jets forum.

I'm willing to give you a mulligan on the first part. I run a business as well and things can suddenly get very busy. As to the second part--where's the love? hi.gif
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 03:06 PM)
Oh my god you are dumb so I will quote myself again:

QUOTE (For the idiot Pats fan)
Yeah well you haven't done it yet because you some how feel that coaching isn't a big deal yet you think your coach can do anything so yet coaching is everything at the same time so which one is it?


If you can't understand this then I am going to end all converstation with you.


I appreciate it--thanks. Can I count on that for the future as well? I'll be sure to leave you to your rants as well. Have a good season.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:34 PM

One more time, Is coaching important or isn't it? It's that simple. Because you say losing Coordinators [ coaches ] isn't important, yet your team is still great because of it's coach. If you can't see the paradox here you are helpless.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:35 PM

Why wont you answer my question? Cause you know I out-smarted you and you wont admit it.

You not answering the question just proves that, by your own words, coaching is the reason the Pats were winners. And that means that by losing Coordinators you are in worse shape then you are willing to admit.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:42 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 03:10 PM)
Why wont you answer my question? Cause you know I out-smarted you and you wont admit it.

I thought you promised to end all conversation with me. Aren't you a man of your word? wink.gif
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:45 PM

QUOTE (NYJBlueHen @ Jul 15 2005, 02:19 PM)
Its post like that, that make people on this site look dumb


And since I just caught this you got some nerve saying shit like this when you have never had an opinion of your own on here bud. What makes you think you speak for everyone on this site anyway? You're right I do make people look dumb on this site, and its people like you and nightowl that look like fools for dodging my questions cause you know that I backed you into a corner with your own words. hysterical.gif
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:50 PM

QUOTE (nightowl @ Jul 15 2005, 03:17 PM)
I thought you promised to end all conversation with me. Aren't you a man of your word? wink.gif


Still wont answer the question. Let this be a lesson for all: Dont try to reason with someone that wont be reasonable. They come up with cute little comebacks like "I thought you weren't talking to me" like they are in 3rd grade instead of being men and saying, "You know what that's a good point and you're right!" And even if I wasn't right, the fact that they wont answer the question to prove me wrong just proves that they know I am right, they just wont admit it.

Hell I know I am wrong sometimes and I have admitted it, just ask Loco and a1elbow or even Jetsfan115 or a few others on here. I admit it when I am wrong, but I dont take shit from people like you 2 who think you can talk down on us and then when someone tells you that you are wrong you just cast it aside and ignore it. So whatever, say whatever you will about it. I have proved everything that I wanted to. Good day!
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:50 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 03:20 PM)
And since I just caught this you got some nerve saying shit like this when you have never had an opinion of your own on here bud. What makes you think you speak for everyone on this site anyway? You're right I do make people look dumb on this site, and  its people like you and nightowl that look like fools for dodging my questions cause you know that I backed you into a corner with your own words.  hysterical.gif

Who looks like the fool. You're even turning on one of your own. Ever try anger management therapy? They can probably help you with your annoying habit of trying to label anyone who doesn't agree with you dumb or an idiot. Winning people over with ideas is laudable but you're just a cyber bully. How sad.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:54 PM

I was hoping you would respond to the question at hand but since all you do with your replies is antagonize me for proving you wrong with your arrogant "We are the champs" attitude just shows you aren't a football fan at all. Calling us biased? Saying we dont know what we are talking about? Then someone that does know what they are talking about comes up into your face and you can't handle it at all. But you tell people that they have "anger management" issues and that they are "cyber bullies", what the hell are you talking about? You dont even know me for 1, number 2 you wont answer my question cause you know I made you contradict yourself. And since now I am pushing you for a response you wont do it, so I am a bully I guess.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:59 PM

Ok kids, let's get back to football and forget bout all this. drinks.gif
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 02:04 PM

That's precisly what I was attempting the whole time but I got cute little comments about my character and how I am a flawed individual instead of people answering the questions that they begged for.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 03:39 PM)
That's precisly what I was attempting the whole time but I got cute little comments about my character and how I am a flawed individual instead of people answering the questions that they begged for.

:rofl: :rofl: hold your rantings til the season start...you missed football that much?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 02:10 PM

I think were all suffering from a sever case of WTSSA (see explanation below)





Will
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Lol.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 02:12 PM

Incase you need proof as to why I took this so bluntly to him here it is in reply to my post:

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Make a rational point and I'll respond in a rational manner. But it's not a one way street.


This was implying that I post without reason and without rational logic. I take this as a personal attack not only on me but to the people on this board.

There you go bud. I was more than rational and you didn't respond. In fact I broke it down for you about 4 different ways and all you did was said I was, to quote you, "rambling". Then I break it down to even less, which by the way the first time I brought it up it was literally 1 or 2 sentences. However I get a queer 3rd grader response, which I would expect from a Pats fan. Then I force him to answer the question by putting it to a "Yes or No" and I get told I am a bully.

So obviously you dont have "the stones" to comment when someone brings a reasonable response to you. You didn't respond in a rational manner at all, you just made yourself look like a scared, whimpering puppy. Do us a favor and sign into a Pats fansite if you aren't gonna talk real football.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 02:15 PM

All I was saying is keep your arguements rational, don't start throwing insults around, you just make yourself look stupid. And I will attempt to answer your question that you gave to the Pats fan. He is saying, I think, that Belichick is more important than the coordinators. So yes he is saying they are going to be good because of their coaching. Yes he understand two coaches are leaving but that Belichick can overcome those losses and create two more good coordinators to help him out.

And the reason I was defending the Pats fan is because he usually is a good poster and a smart football fan. So i figured I would offer an unbiased, rational opinion, opposed to the normal " your an idiot pats fan your stupid." So once again don't take it personal.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 02:25 PM

You are just as helpless as him and this has absolutely nothing to do with biased opinions on my part but on his. And you obviously, as well as him, dont understand the importance of the Coordinators for you to say that Belichick is just gonna create 2 Head Coach quality Coordinators. You people are fools for thinking that Coordinators are know-nothings and have little responsibility in this league. You say coaching is important b/c Belichick is the best coach ever, but your lack of knowledge in football allows you to say at the same time that losing 2 coaches isn't a matter of importance cause we are talking about Belichick.

So I guess you are saying that Herm is 2nd grade to Belichick and that our Coordinator Donnie Henderson had nothing to do with the greatness that our Defense played last year. And what you are saying is that changing Offensive Coordinators is going to have no affect on our team because Herm is really calling the plays? I guess the Pats dont really need Coordinators cause they are so different from every single team in the league cause you know exactly how their team is run. If those Coordinators were such know-nothings then why did both of them get Head Coaching jobs? Can't answer that one either can you. Bill could hire my sister to run the Offense and it wouldn't matter cause really Bill is doing all of the play calling. NEWSFLASH: THE LAST TIME BILL CALLED OFFENSIVE PLAYS HE WAS FIRED!!!!!! FROM THE BROWNS!!!!!!!!! Getting the point yet?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 02:29 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jul 15 2005, 04:00 PM)
You are just as helpless as him and this has absolutely nothing to do with biased opinions on my part but on his. And you obviously, as well as him, dont understand the importance of the Coordinators for you to say that Belichick is just gonna create 2 Head Coach quality Coordinators. You people are fools for thinking that Coordinators are know-nothings and have little responsibility in this league. You say coaching is important b/c Belichick is the best coach ever, but your lack of knowledge in football allows you to say at the same time that losing 2 coaches isn't a matter of importance cause we are talking about Belichick.

So I guess you are saying that Herm is 2nd grade to Belichick and that our Coordinator Donnie Henderson had nothing to do with the greatness that our Defense played last year. And what you are saying is that changing Offensive Coordinators is going to have no affect on our team because Herm is really calling the plays? I guess the Pats dont really need Coordinators cause they are so different from every single team in the league cause you know exactly how their team is run. If those Coordinators were such know-nothings then why did both of them get Head Coaching jobs? Can't answer that one either can you. Bill could hire my sister to run the Offense and it wouldn't matter cause really Bill is doing all of the play calling. NEWSFLASH: THE LAST TIME BILL CALLED OFFENSIVE PLAYS HE WAS FIRED!!!!!! FROM THE BROWNS!!!!!!!!! Getting the point yet?

This has gone beyond fun. I think everyone's starting to feel uncomfortable with all of this ranting. Time to chill, man.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 02:32 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jul 15 2005, 10:23 AM)
Ok. Yes all the other teams took hits but so did we with a john abe holdout, our number 1 CB retiring on a weak unit and our QB fresh off an injury so I wouldn’t say everything is great for us. I see us and the pats battling for the division this year.

WELL SAID! I do agree with you. Yoo many guys are blinded by their GREEN sunshades. baghead.gif
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 02:32 PM

Honestly please dont respond to this cause I am done with it. I understand now that Bill Belichick is GOD and can coach the offense and the defense at the same time, which seems odd considering they practice together so to give attention to them both in such greatness at the same time can only be done if you are Bill the football GOD. I understand that the Patriots team really doesn't need an OC or a DC because Bill does it all. Thank you for clearing this up for me.

Oh and the kicker, I forgot that Coordinators mean so little in the coaching world that you can hire a coach and in 1 season he turns your defense from shit into gold. I guess that wasn't his influence though.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 02:35 PM

QUOTE (NYJBlueHen @ Jul 15 2005, 03:50 PM)
All I was saying is keep your arguements rational, don't start throwing insults around, you just make yourself look stupid. And I will attempt to answer your question that you gave to the Pats fan. He is saying, I think, that Belichick is more important than the coordinators. So yes he is saying they are going to be good because of their coaching. Yes he understand two coaches are leaving but that Belichick can overcome those losses and create two more good coordinators to help him out.

And the reason I was defending the Pats fan is because he usually is a good poster and a smart football fan. So i figured I would offer an unbiased, rational opinion, opposed to the normal " your an idiot pats fan your stupid." So once again don't take it personal.

also well said and to the point. What some of these GREEN sunglass wearing guys don't want to say is that BRADY is a vet QB who can and will help out in play calling. Also a true genius on DEFENSE has simply got to know and understand a lot of OFFENSE too. There in lies the BIG difference betwenn BELLYACHE and DUH HERM! :shout:
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