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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 03:55 PM

I heard a rumor that the Jets might give up the 1st round pick for him..... If they do I will be soo pissed off. No way is he worth that much, unless they give us a 2nd round pick too, then I would be ok with it since we would have 3 2nd round picks. But that is exactly what we dont want to do, give up first round picks, they are gold. We need to keep the 1st round because you can get so many different types of all pro players and its the best way to get young talent and groom them through your system. Its probaly just speculation though, just like all the other BS rumors there were last year... I wish we could some how package McCariens and like a 5th round for him, I would do that. McCariens is a bumb anyways, though I am no longer sure about trading for players with high draft picks, since the last 2 I can remember were McCariens and Jolly that we traded for and they were shit. Plus we have been pretty consistent on our draft picks. But then again, I would like turner, he did rush for half of a 1,000 yards off of 80 carries. Thats pretty good with a 6.3 average.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:07 PM

and where exactly did you hear this lame rumor?
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:08 PM

No way would I give up a 1st for Turner either, it would be a waste of a pick on top of a huge contract as there is a lot of talent in this draft and wasting our 1st on a guy like Turner would be a huge mistake.
From what I understand SD will tender him a contract that if any team decides to offer more, will cost that team a 1st rounder; they may even tender him a deal that requires a 1st and 3rd rounder as compensation.
SD will get a 1st rounder out of some team for him and it better not be the Jets.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:12 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I heard a rumor that the Jets might give up the 1st round pick for him..... If they do I will be soo pissed off. No way is he worth that much, unless they give us a 2nd round pick too, then I would be ok with it since we would have 3 2nd round picks. But that is exactly what we dont want to do, give up first round picks, they are gold. We need to keep the 1st round because you can get so many different types of all pro players and its the best way to get young talent and groom them through your system. Its probaly just speculation though, just like all the other BS rumors there were last year... I wish we could some how package McCariens and like a 5th round for him, I would do that. McCariens is a bumb anyways, though I am no longer sure about trading for players with high draft picks, since the last 2 I can remember were McCariens and Jolly that we traded for and they were shit. Plus we have been pretty consistent on our draft picks. But then again, I would like turner, he did rush for half of a 1,000 yards off of 80 carries. Thats pretty good with a 6.3 average.

I dont like Turner that much but if we could package like Barlow and McCareins and a 5th i wouldnt mind

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:19 PM

where did you hear this bullshit rumour from?

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:47 PM

I heard it off another Jets message board, just a dumb rumor.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:07 PM

they say that cause people don't understand what a tender is. most likely if we get him we'll deal for less that will probably include a draft pick and a WR or RB
Get it done MT
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:50 PM

it reminds me of the jolly trade and i want nothing to do with it.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:07 PM

NO WAY IN HELL should we do this trade! were set at that position well enough i think, and if not we shouldnt give up r first round pick for it.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 07:12 PM

QUOTE (LocoJet @ Jan 13 2007, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it reminds me of the jolly trade and i want nothing to do with it.

So you're not a big fan of Mike Nugent and Kerry Rhodes?
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 07:18 PM

Yeah right. A 1st rd pick for the burner Turner. I don't think so.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 07:42 PM

i wouldnt give a first pick but maybe a 2nd round pick
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I heard a rumor that the Jets might give up the 1st round pick for him..... If they do I will be soo pissed off. No way is he worth that much, unless they give us a 2nd round pick too, then I would be ok with it since we would have 3 2nd round picks. But that is exactly what we dont want to do, give up first round picks, they are gold. We need to keep the 1st round because you can get so many different types of all pro players and its the best way to get young talent and groom them through your system. Its probaly just speculation though, just like all the other BS rumors there were last year... I wish we could some how package McCariens and like a 5th round for him, I would do that. McCariens is a bumb anyways, though I am no longer sure about trading for players with high draft picks, since the last 2 I can remember were McCariens and Jolly that we traded for and they were shit. Plus we have been pretty consistent on our draft picks. But then again, I would like turner, he did rush for half of a 1,000 yards off of 80 carries. Thats pretty good with a 6.3 average.

Dude, what team would think McCariens and a fifth is even close to a first? McCariens and a fifth = a fifth
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 12:39 AM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 13 2007, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So you're not a big fan of Mike Nugent and Kerry Rhodes?


I'm a huge fan of Mike Nugent baby! beach.gif
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 11:54 AM

QUOTE (jetfan4life12 @ Jan 13 2007, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dude, what team would think McCariens and a fifth is even close to a first? McCariens and a fifth = a fifth


McCareins is a decent receiver and SD is pretty weak at that position. I think they'd do it for JMac and a 3rd.

However, when has Tangini not acted prudently with our draft picks? They aren't suckers and they aren't gonna screw up the draft. Tanny said specifically that they are gonna continue to build this team the right way... through the draft. That being said, I don't think they'd give up a 1st round pick for anyone. Too valuable.
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 12:42 PM

Can someone please tell me what the obsession with Turner is about. I don't get it he's a backup rb that comes in after LT has slowed down the defense a little. Sure, he's shown some glimpses of being good but not enough to worth a first round pick.

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Posted 14 January 2007 - 02:14 PM

QUOTE (Fatman @ Jan 14 2007, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can someone please tell me what the obsession with Turner is about. I don't get it he's a backup rb that comes in after LT has slowed down the defense a little. Sure, he's shown some glimpses of being good but not enough to worth a first round pick.

That's exactly how I feel. I'm always weary about a RB who has never been a starter and never had to shoulder a whole load. I'm extremely weary about a guy who's success has all come behind the best RB in football. LT tires out the defense and Turner comes in and pounds it. Who's to say he would be any good without LT in front of him? I'm not saying he wouldn't be, I'm just saying there's no way I give up a first rounder for him.
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 02:42 PM

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Thats a highlight run by Turner is college. Turner is a beast. He was half way away from 1,000 yards this year on only 80 carries. He had a 6.3 average. I would like to get him, but I wouldnt want to trade our first for him. I want a RB this offseason, either Turner, or Lynch.
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 04:28 PM

i read some where on this site the suggestion of our 1st and 3rd for turner and the SD 2nd...that I might consider...we can still do damage with three 2nds.....but i think we need to focus on getting a stud with our 1st...hopefully DL...i always think about how far that Jolley trade has set us back....who may we have gotten for that 1st rounder....instead we got a TE that didnt start...horrible trade even though I like rhodes and nugent it doesnt make it a good deal bc we made it work in the end

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