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SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Mock Draft V1 No Trades, (just regular order)

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 04:20 PM

1) Oakland Raiders - QB JaMarcus Russell | 6'6, 260 | L.S.U.

2) Detroit Lions - QB Brady Quinn | 6'4, 227 | Norte Dame

3) Cleveland Browns - OT Joe Thomas | 6'8, 313 | Wisconsin

4) Tampa Bay Bucs - WR Calvin Johnson | 6'5, 235 | Georgia Tech

5) Arizona Cardinals - DT Alan Branch | 6'6, 331 | Michigan

6) Washington Redskins - DE Jamaal Anderson | 6'6, 280 | Arkansas

7) Minnesota Vikings - DE Gaines Adams | 6'5, 260 | Clemson

8) Houston Texans - RB Adrian Peterson | 6'2, 218 | Oklahoma

9) Miami Dolphins - CB Leon Hall | 5'11, 194 | Michigan

10) Atlanta Falcons - S LaRon Landry | 6'2, 202 | L.S.U.

11) San Francisco 49ers - WR Dwayne Jarrett | 6'5, 210 | USC

12) Buffalo Bills - OT Levi Brown | 6'5, 328 | Penn St.

13) St. Louis Rams - OLB Lawrence Timmons | 6'3, 230 | Florida St.

14) Carolina Panthers - S Reggie Nelson | 6'1, 193 | Florida

15) Pittsburgh Steelers - DE Quentin Moses | 6'5, 257 | Georgia

16) Green Bay Packers - WR Ted Ginn Jr. | 6'0, 180 | Ohio St.

17) Jacksonville Jaguars - DE Charles Johnson | 6'2, 270 | Georgia

18) Cincinnati Bengals - DT DeMarcus Tyler | 6'2, 305 | North Carolina St.

19) Tennessee Titans - DE Adam Carriker | 6'6, 295 | Nebraska

20) New York Giants - RB Marshawn Lynch | 5'11, 217 | California

21) Denver Broncos - DT Quinn Pitc0ck | 6'3, 295 | Ohio St.

22) Dallas Cowboys - OG Justin Blalock | 6'4, 329 | Texas

23) Kansas City Chiefs - ILB Patrick Willis | 6'2, 240 | Ole Miss

24) Seattle Seahawks - CB Darrelle Revis | 6'0, 200 | Pittsburgh

25) New York Jets - DT Amobi Okoye | 6'1, 317 | Louisville

26) Philadelphia Eagles - S Michael Griffin | 6'0, 205 | Texas

27) Baltimore Ravens - DE Jarvis Moss | 6'6, 251 | Florida

28) San Diego Chargers - WR Jeff Samardzija | 6'5, 218 | Norte Dame

29) New England Patriots - WR Sidney Rice | 6'4, 202 | South Carolina

30) Chicago Bears - OT Joe Staley | 6'5, 300 | Central Michigan

31) Indianapolis Colts - ILB Buster Davis | 5'10, 240 | Florida St.

32) New Orleans Saints - CB Marcus McCauley | 6'1, 205 | Fresno St.

Thoughts on what I need to improve for V2?
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 04:23 PM

I would love it if we did land Okoye, he would be a nice pickup, since he would be a back up at first.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 17 2007, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would love it if we did land Okoye, he would be a nice pickup, since he would be a back up at first.


Nah, I believe he'll start his first year, because we'll be moving Robertson to End. Then the front 7 would look like:

DE Robertson
NT Okoye
DE Ellis

OLB Thomas
ILB Vilma
ILB Barton
OLB Hobson
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 04:39 PM

i hope the giants dont get lynch
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 04:50 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Jan 17 2007, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1) Oakland Raiders - QB JaMarcus Russell | 6'6, 260 | L.S.U.

2) Detroit Lions - QB Brady Quinn | 6'4, 227 | Norte Dame

3) Cleveland Browns - OT Joe Thomas | 6'8, 313 | Wisconsin

4) Tampa Bay Bucs - WR Calvin Johnson | 6'5, 235 | Georgia Tech

5) Arizona Cardinals - DT Alan Branch | 6'6, 331 | Michigan

6) Washington Redskins - DE Jamaal Anderson | 6'6, 280 | Arkansas

7) Minnesota Vikings - DE Gaines Adams | 6'5, 260 | Clemson

8) Houston Texans - RB Adrian Peterson | 6'2, 218 | Oklahoma

9) Miami Dolphins - CB Leon Hall | 5'11, 194 | Michigan

10) Atlanta Falcons - S LaRon Landry | 6'2, 202 | L.S.U.

11) San Francisco 49ers - WR Dwayne Jarrett | 6'5, 210 | USC

12) Buffalo Bills - OT Levi Brown | 6'5, 328 | Penn St.

13) St. Louis Rams - OLB Lawrence Timmons | 6'3, 230 | Florida St.

14) Carolina Panthers - S Reggie Nelson | 6'1, 193 | Florida

15) Pittsburgh Steelers - DE Quentin Moses | 6'5, 257 | Georgia

16) Green Bay Packers - WR Ted Ginn Jr. | 6'0, 180 | Ohio St.

17) Jacksonville Jaguars - DE Charles Johnson | 6'2, 270 | Georgia

18) Cincinnati Bengals - DT DeMarcus Tyler | 6'2, 305 | North Carolina St.

19) Tennessee Titans - DE Adam Carriker | 6'6, 295 | Nebraska

20) New York Giants - RB Marshawn Lynch | 5'11, 217 | California

21) Denver Broncos - DT Quinn Pitc0ck | 6'3, 295 | Ohio St.

22) Dallas Cowboys - OG Justin Blalock | 6'4, 329 | Texas

23) Kansas City Chiefs - ILB Patrick Willis | 6'2, 240 | Ole Miss

24) Seattle Seahawks - CB Darrelle Revis | 6'0, 200 | Pittsburgh

25) New York Jets - DT Amobi Okoye | 6'1, 317 | Louisville

26) Philadelphia Eagles - S Michael Griffin | 6'0, 205 | Texas

27) Baltimore Ravens - DE Jarvis Moss | 6'6, 251 | Florida

28) San Diego Chargers - WR Jeff Samardzija | 6'5, 218 | Norte Dame

29) New England Patriots - WR Sidney Rice | 6'4, 202 | South Carolina

30) Chicago Bears - OT Joe Staley | 6'5, 300 | Central Michigan

31) Indianapolis Colts - ILB Buster Davis | 5'10, 240 | Florida St.

32) New Orleans Saints - CB Marcus McCauley | 6'1, 205 | Fresno St.

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Not a bad one but just some quick things I noticed.
- Jax taking Johnson at DE, they already have so much money invested on the DL as it is, I'd be suprised if they picked another one in the first round. Not a big deal, but I would be a little suprised.
-Cowboys taking a guard at 22. I know they could use some O-Line help but I could definately see them going in a different direction. Maybe Wr? Owens could be gone, and both he and Glenn are getting old.
-Seahawks taking Revis another corner in the first round. Don't get me wrong I like Revis alot, could definately see him as a Jet, but the Hawks just took Jennings in the 1st round last year and also have Trufant as a former 1st round corner. I don't really see that happening.
-Eagles do need a better safety next to Dawkins but I can bet they go linebacker in the 1st round. That is definately their weakest unit.
-I can see Moss fitting in well with that Ravens D, would be another scary addition and a good replacement for Thomas, but they do have some needs on the offensive side, maybe a RB for them.

Overall though I think its a pretty solid 1st round particularly the top 10. After that its always tough to predict.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Jan 17 2007, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, I believe he'll start his first year, because we'll be moving Robertson to End. Then the front 7 would look like:

DE Robertson
NT Okoye
DE Ellis

OLB Thomas
ILB Vilma
ILB Barton
OLB Hobson

I don't know much about Okoye, but I do know that he is only 19 years old. It would be very difficult for him to come in and start from day one. If he fell to them and they took him I would love it, but more than likely he'll take at least a year before he'll be a reliable starter...
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 05:04 PM

Im not saying your rong im just saying if Ginn gets taken before Smardija there is sumthin rong. the only reason Ginn could be ranked over Jeff is return ability, as a WR Samardija owns him. Ginn improved his hands this year but Id still take Jeff over him anyday at WR.

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 05:14 PM

QUOTE (BESTHANDS8381 @ Jan 17 2007, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im not saying your rong im just saying if Ginn gets taken before Smardija there is sumthin rong. the only reason Ginn could be ranked over Jeff is return ability, as a WR Samardija owns him. Ginn improved his hands this year but Id still take Jeff over him anyday at WR.

You are right, Jeff is a better WR then Ginn, but the fact is that Jeff plays baseball also. It really depends on if he quits baseball. He might not even play in the NFL, because the Cubs dont want him to play football.

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Jan 17 2007, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, I believe he'll start his first year, because we'll be moving Robertson to End. Then the front 7 would look like:

DE Robertson
NT Okoye
DE Ellis

OLB Thomas
ILB Vilma
ILB Barton
OLB Hobson

Not saying that Robertson will play end or not, but Okoye if we draft him wont be the starter. If he does then we are in trouble, because I dont think he is a NFL ready type player, he is more of a project guy. Since he is 19 and he will be best served as a back up for his first year, so he can gain weight and shit. I may be wrong, he may come in and dominate, just my feelings though. I say we would sign a vetern NT if we did move Robertson to DE, maybe that Sands guy.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 17 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are right, Jeff is a better WR then Ginn, but the fact is that Jeff plays baseball also. It really depends on if he quits baseball. He might not even play in the NFL, because the Cubs dont want him to play football.
Not saying that Robertson will play end or not, but Okoye if we draft him wont be the starter. If he does then we are in trouble, because I dont think he is a NFL ready type player, he is more of a project guy. Since he is 19 and he will be best served as a back up for his first year, so he can gain weight and shit. I may be wrong, he may come in and dominate, just my feelings though. I say we would sign a vetern NT if we did move Robertson to DE, maybe that Sands guy.


I'm not trying to say whether or not Okoye can be an instant starter...but the fact he is 19 has nothing to do with it. He is a four year starter...that's a lot more experience than you get with most prospects...and the reason why he is a 19 year old senior is because he is so smart. So either way you look at it...he's a seasoned prospect. So the only real justification we have to say he can't be an instant starter is he might have to bulk up to play NT.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 05:53 PM

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I'm not trying to say whether or not Okoye can be an instant starter...but the fact he is 19 has nothing to do with it. He is a four year starter...that's a lot more experience than you get with most prospects...and the reason why he is a 19 year old senior is because he is so smart. So either way you look at it...he's a seasoned prospect. So the only real justification we have to say he can't be an instant starter is he might have to bulk up to play NT.

Being 19 absolutely has something to do with it. He is 3 years behind everybody else in his physical development. He's still filling out and so, he is not yet at his playing weight. I don't doubt that he will be a great player, but he will be a lot better at 22-23 then he is at 19.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 06:22 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not trying to say whether or not Okoye can be an instant starter...but the fact he is 19 has nothing to do with it. He is a four year starter...that's a lot more experience than you get with most prospects...and the reason why he is a 19 year old senior is because he is so smart. So either way you look at it...he's a seasoned prospect. So the only real justification we have to say he can't be an instant starter is he might have to bulk up to play NT.

Thats what I meant, he has to bulk up more before he can be a full time starter.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 07:13 PM

6-1 / 317 is his listed height and weight on the loiusville website
i looked on the jets page on nfl.com and roberston is the same


to say he isnt developed enough to start is crazy
he just as big as robertson is now at 19 and roberston looks fatter then him





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Posted 17 January 2007 - 07:15 PM

When I say development, I'm not just talking about his size. The fact is the guy is not fully developed yet. There's a reason guys who are 19 years old don't start in the NFL...
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 07:17 PM

i really dont understand
you cant just say development like its some mythological characteristic





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Posted 17 January 2007 - 07:18 PM

NT or DTs usually take a while to become good, especially NTs. Sometimes they dont do good their first year. Example Vince Wilfork, he didnt do good his rookie season, but had a great 2nd year. Okoye is a guy that may take a year or 2 to develop because of his size and age. He is a guy that wont reach his potiential for like 3-4 years if even. It will take till he is 23-24 for us to see his potiential.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not trying to say whether or not Okoye can be an instant starter...but the fact he is 19 has nothing to do with it. He is a four year starter...that's a lot more experience than you get with most prospects...and the reason why he is a 19 year old senior is because he is so smart. So either way you look at it...he's a seasoned prospect. So the only real justification we have to say he can't be an instant starter is he might have to bulk up to play NT.




pretty solid draft but okoye isnt going to fall into our lap at 25. i've never seen a mock draft were he's gone higher than 18 and i've seen a couple where he goes top 10 and his stock is only going to rise come draft considering he will have an incredible combine and Alan Branch's is falling, the lack of quality DTs and the fact that he's only 19 we would probably have to give up one of 2nd rounders to get him but i like him so much i might not mind

these are the guys i consistenly see us getting on mock drafts
Mccauley(Fresno st) CB, and Adam Carriker DE Nebraska and lamar woodley....
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 09:31 PM

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i really dont understand
you cant just say development like its some mythological characteristic

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The point is that people grow between 19 and 23. You can't just look at his size and say "he's over 300 lbs. He must be fully developed." The guys still growing. There's a reason that the NFL has always had the rule that guys can't just go straight to the NFL out of high school. It's because typically, guys who are 19 shouldn't be playing with the monsters in the NFL. This guys is huge, but that doesn't mean he's ready to just come in and start right off the bat.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 09:58 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 17 2007, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When I say development, I'm not just talking about his size. The fact is the guy is not fully developed yet. There's a reason guys who are 19 years old don't start in the NFL...


Yeah...that reason is because they're still in college...

Okoye may be the first player to ever be drafted at 19 years old...

He has had four years of starting...is already 317 pounds of MUSCLE...and already has good on field production...

Of course he'll be better in 3 or 4 years...I would hope so...and of coure he hasn't reached his potential...these are all givens.

What I'm saying is he can start his rookie year...he is not an unpolished prospect...he is an unfinished prospect. Big difference here...a guy like Louis Leonard will be drafted on potential because he is a 350 pounder. But a guy like Okoye is being drafted because of potential and production. He is already good, what makes him scary is he has so much more room to develop. If Okoye wasn't already a good player...he wouldn't be considered a first rounder. You wouldn't draft a guy simply based on being 19 years old. What makes Okoye so intriguing is he already produces on the field...and he still has so much room to grow!!!

So my point is...he can likely start his rookie year...and yes...he will hopefully get even better and even bigger in the following seasons!!!
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 10:08 PM

I like the pick but the only downside of this guy is his age. you have to remember that this kid is the age of most freshmen in college. he has alot of upside but like a few have said "he is a project." i cant see this guy playing for at least 2 years so he can physically catch up to the rest of the playing feild. He is a boy amoung men and although he has the size he is only 19 and can get much bigger. I wouldnt be upset if we picked the guy because the jets are also a young team. He may be ready to play by the time the jets are ready to make a real run towards the playoffs....(yea we got there this year but id say it was more because of our weak schedule.) Not a bad pick at all but again he is a project and will need to work hard to be able to play with the big boys of the NFL...

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 10:09 PM

i didn't read the whole thing but okoye is not falling to us, if we want him we'll have to trade up fro him. he'll go top 15, top 20 at worst, his stok is soaring really fast. and btw i follow the draft year around, jeff samarja isn;t going in the 1st round. he'd be happy if he goes in the top half of the 2nd round. right now, we could probably be looking at tank tyler but he might go higher and pit*beep* as well. carricker's stock has really fallen btw. right now he'd go in the top 10 picks in the 2nd round. just my 2 cents.
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