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NJAzrael71 Icon : (Today, 04:01 PM) we obviously need to bring someone in
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:01 PM) we are a clusterfuck
santana Icon : (Today, 04:01 PM) cutler
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:01 PM) no we get COOPER....AMARI COOPER WR ALABAMA
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:02 PM) cutler really santana take your lips off the tailpipe
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 04:03 PM) So now I guess Geno will start next year again.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:04 PM) david Harris another sack
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:04 PM) f***
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:04 PM) 6 sacks for Harris this season
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:04 PM) TB got the #1 pick
santana Icon : (Today, 04:04 PM) eating them alive
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:05 PM) I'm going to miss this style of defense
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:05 PM) mangold looks like a fat hobo when he is out of uniform
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:05 PM) I hope our next HC hires a DC that runs a similar style of defense
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:06 PM) I hope our next HC isn't a f***ing rookie
NJAzrael71 Icon : (Today, 04:07 PM) Rex will have a new HC job by Wednesday
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:07 PM) we can't make that mistake for the 4th time in a row
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:08 PM) That's going to be hard to do, who can we hire?
santana Icon : (Today, 04:08 PM) I hope its not some stupid college coach
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:08 PM) A rookie HC might have more promise than some retread.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:08 PM) I wouldn't mind a college coach.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 04:09 PM) Rex take Geno with you and you can chest bump there some more.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:10 PM) Ravens in now
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:11 PM) Both wild cards in AFC North now
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:12 PM) We have the 6th pick in the draft, if Oakland beats Denver we will have the 5th.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:13 PM) Decker finished with 962 yards this season, that's with missing some games and having a nagging hamstring injury.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:13 PM) Also shitty QB play
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:17 PM) NAH NAH NAH NAHHHHHHHHHHH NAH NAH NAH NAHHHHHHHHHHHHH HEY HEY HEY GOODBYE!!!! YOU'RE FIRED REX!!!! GET LOST YOU BUM!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:18 PM) FIRE GG03
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:23 PM) why cause I don't want rex to be here in 2015
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 04:23 PM) he needs to be fired
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:31 PM) For those interested Sanchez ended the season with 14 tds 11 ints and 4 fumbles lost. 7 total fumbles total 3 recovered. 64% completion percentage by far the best of his career which is one hell of a step up in accuracy but once you factor in the total turnovers mark has still yet to have a year without more turnovers than td`s
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:33 PM) actually scratch that part. mark had 1 rushing td so he evened out this year 15 total mtds and 15 total turnovers
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:40 PM) He will probably get a job somewhere but not likely on a good team. No way is he taking Foles job and if he stays in Philly as a backup he is stupid to not get a potential payday. He is better off on a bad team as a starter making more money than a backup in Philly. As long as he doesn't come to the Jets I dont care where he goes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 04:43 PM) Rams might be interested in him still since Bardford cant make it through one season without getting a season ending injury
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 05:53 PM) BREAKING NEWS: Still Nothing on Idzik and Rex getting the axe
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 05:55 PM) As of 5:53pm et there is no news as to the fates of JETS GM John Idzik and JETS HC Rex Ryan ...If this had been actual Breaking News I wouldn't be able to announce it because I'm not a Moderator on this website
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 05:58 PM) This is LATE BREAKING NEWS!!!! NOTHING YET!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:11 PM) your breaking news is usually a day or 2 late anyways
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:12 PM) but you can't make a thread or make a shout?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:15 PM) lol
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:19 PM) GG you should just make your own thread for all your pointless comments as opposed to blowing up the banter chat with 300 comments every game
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:21 PM) wtf man? You actually expect the Woody and the Jets org to fire all the FO and coaching staff 1 minute after the game?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:32 PM) Have to seriously feel bad for the Cardinals. The way the Rams vs Seahawks game is going the Cards could get the first seed with zero chance to win the Superbowl.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 06:35 PM) If anyone has a raw deal they do. A great defense and having a terrible 3rd string qb that has already thrown 2 int`s today. Losing top 2 qbs for season and top running back. Amazing they have still managed to win and stay in games they lost.
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Mock Draft V1 No Trades, (just regular order)

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 10:37 PM

guys how is 19 a downside?............he was a beast in college at 19 and is going to get bigger............19 is a blessing and he'll play right away
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 01:46 AM

Thanks for all your input guys, in a month I will work on Version 2.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 11:31 AM

Good mock and pretty realistic too. Good job JC!

If that is how things went for the Jets it would be a toss up between Okoye and Moss and both would definitely fill two of our biggest needs. However I'd prefer Okoye as he could contribute right away, whilst continuing to develop as, as Vandelay says, at 19 he is four years behind most players physically and because Moss would have to change position although he is a great prospect.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah...that reason is because they're still in college...

Okoye may be the first player to ever be drafted at 19 years old...

He has had four years of starting...is already 317 pounds of MUSCLE...and already has good on field production...

Of course he'll be better in 3 or 4 years...I would hope so...and of coure he hasn't reached his potential...these are all givens.

What I'm saying is he can start his rookie year...he is not an unpolished prospect...he is an unfinished prospect. Big difference here...a guy like Louis Leonard will be drafted on potential because he is a 350 pounder. But a guy like Okoye is being drafted because of potential and production. He is already good, what makes him scary is he has so much more room to develop. If Okoye wasn't already a good player...he wouldn't be considered a first rounder. You wouldn't draft a guy simply based on being 19 years old. What makes Okoye so intriguing is he already produces on the field...and he still has so much room to grow!!!

So my point is...he can likely start his rookie year...and yes...he will hopefully get even better and even bigger in the following seasons!!!


See, it's a fact of life that one's body will continue to develop. Vandelay's point has nothing to do with four years of starting experience. No one is arguing he has experience. BUT, IT IS ASANINE to say that he will not be at a disadvantage if he were to start at 19 years old in the NFL. Yea, he'll have some success. But his body will be 3-4 years from where it needs to be.

19 year olds are not as physically developed as 22 year olds. If has nothing to do with playing time. It has to do with how long you've been on the planet, thus giving you more time to develop your physique. Therefore, I guess I agree with both parties here. Okoye will be able to produce some his rookie year, but I wouldn't expect a lot. However, the upside is through the roof.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 01:45 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 18 2007, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good mock and pretty realistic too. Good job JC!

If that is how things went for the Jets it would be a toss up between Okoye and Moss and both would definitely fill two of our biggest needs. However I'd prefer Okoye as he could contribute right away, whilst continuing to develop as, as Vandelay says, at 19 he is four years behind most players physically and because Moss would have to change position although he is a great prospect.


I'd be happy with either guy. I would be happy with Moss because I'm a gator fan, and I know this guy will be good. The other Gator I believe will be good is Reggie Nelson, and the sleeper I believe will be the wide reciever, Dallas Baker. Moss would look good in Gang Green, but I don't think he will because I think he'd prefer to stay at end. I actually at first had us drafting Moss, but then I changed it to Okoye.
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 01:59 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Jan 17 2007, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, I believe he'll start his first year, because we'll be moving Robertson to End. Then the front 7 would look like:

DE Robertson
NT Okoye
DE Ellis

OLB Thomas
ILB Vilma
ILB Barton
OLB Hobson


THIS IS A SOUND UNIT,LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER,EVEN BETTER IN REALITY
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:11 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 17 2007, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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The point is that people grow between 19 and 23. You can't just look at his size and say "he's over 300 lbs. He must be fully developed." The guys still growing. There's a reason that the NFL has always had the rule that guys can't just go straight to the NFL out of high school. It's because typically, guys who are 19 shouldn't be playing with the monsters in the NFL. This guys is huge, but that doesn't mean he's ready to just come in and start right off the bat.

but the thing is
he has the size and starting expierence of any other senior
he can start like other rookie dt and grow while starting

basically what im saying is hes no different then any other rookie dt except he will grow even bigger
the only reason you cant play in the nfl right out of high school is because you dont have the size and bulk but as you grow you gain it
he already has the size and bulk and will just grow even further





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Posted 18 January 2007 - 02:26 PM

Alright I did a little research here on the age thing


Okoye birthday --6/10/1987
Nfl Draft date April 2007

Robertson Birthday 10/16/1981
Robertson Drafted April 2003

So doing a little math we can see that

Robertson at draft date 258 months old
Okoye at draft date 238 months old

Thats 20 months difference or about 1.5 years.
Robertson started all 16 games in his Rookie year.

So If Okoye is as good as Robertson at the worst we would see Okoye midway through his second year. Thats really not to bad. More than likely he would start in his first year maybe not right away. He will be 20 two months after the draft its not as crazy as everyone is making it out to be.
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