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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:06 PM

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We hear that comments by GM Mike Tannenbaum that the Jets believe DL Dewayne Robertson affords them flexibility with his ability to play tackle or end indicates that the team may consider moving Robertson, who's not as stout as the team would like for its nose tackle in a 3-4 scheme, to end in 2007.


Not that we all didn't know this...but it's good to see it in writing. I think D Rob will be an amazing DE in the 3-4...can't wait to see him get significant reps there.

But who is going to step in as the NT?

Is he on the roster? Sione Pouha?

Is he a draftee? Amobio Okoye? Louis Leonard?

Is he in the NFL? Terdell Sands?
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:11 PM

I would sign Hollis Thomas, he would be a instant starter and a good sign, he is a good NT. Hes a UFA this offseason.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:12 PM

im going to throw something out there a little wild, so brace yourself

two top canidates for the Steelers HC job are Mike Tomlin and Ron Riveria, both d coordinators for cover 2 defenses, so lets say if one of them gets the job they bring the cover 2 to Pittsburgh potentially making Casey Hampton available for trade. D-Rob was drafted to be a cover 2 penetrator, something that every cover 2 needs and one is not on Pitts roster, so try and trade D-Rob and probably a draft pick for Casey Hampton and everybody wins. Justing throwing it there.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:16 PM

Yea thats what Steeler fans say, that they want to trade him because they dont think he can play in the 4-3.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not that we all didn't know this...but it's good to see it in writing. I think D Rob will be an amazing DE in the 3-4...can't wait to see him get significant reps there.

But who is going to step in as the NT?

Is he on the roster? Sione Pouha?

Is he a draftee? Amobio Okoye? Louis Leonard?

Is he in the NFL? Terdell Sands?

If we draft OKOYE or any other kid NT it will take a few years to develop him at the position. POUHA just might have to step up and do the job! but I see us signing a widebody NT as a FA! I also think OKOYE would be good for us too!
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not that we all didn't know this...but it's good to see it in writing. I think D Rob will be an amazing DE in the 3-4...can't wait to see him get significant reps there.

But who is going to step in as the NT?

Is he on the roster? Sione Pouha?

Is he a draftee? Amobio Okoye? Louis Leonard?

Is he in the NFL? Terdell Sands?


I never really seen Terdell Sands play a lot, but I was at the Jets vs Raiders game, and when the Raiders came out of the tunnel Sands really stood out, he is enourmous! So if we are looking for a space eater this guy will def. fill up space.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE (TheUltimate @ Jan 17 2007, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never really seen Terdell Sands play a lot, but I was at the Jets vs Raiders game, and when the Raiders came out of the tunnel Sands really stood out, he is enourmous! So if we are looking for a space eater this guy will def. fill up space.


Yeah...he's really the only potential NT I see that is going to be a free agent...
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 17 2007, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea thats what Steeler fans say, that they want to trade him because they dont think he can play in the 4-3.



Thats crazy casey hampton is the best NT in the game along with Jamal Williams and he is still only 29. Dont get me wrong i would love him as a Jet but NT are utilized 4-3 defenses also. You cant have a successful undertackle like warren sapp or D-Rob without a huge space eater, this is a big reason for D-Rob's decline when fergeson left and sapp's decline when he left the Buccs and in a cover-2 where there isnt much blitzing that is very important. Also look at MacFarland who alot of people thought was really a true NT and failed at replacing Sapp but when he went to the Colts he immediately helped their run defense he started playing the NT role. But if the steeler do let him go i would love to have him and its also a good sign that this new regime is pretty dumb so thats a win win right there.
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This makes my mock draft look a little like what the jets will pick with their first rounder... lol
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Posted 18 January 2007 - 11:34 AM

I doubt the Steelers trade Hampton and if they do it will take an awful lot to acquire him. I'd rather keep the picks - remember we only have six - and not use them in trades for players.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 02:40 PM

half of my wild thought has come true, Mike Tomlin has been hired as Steelers coach. Now Lets see if he inserts the cover 2 there.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:26 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not that we all didn't know this...but it's good to see it in writing. I think D Rob will be an amazing DE in the 3-4...can't wait to see him get significant reps there.

But who is going to step in as the NT?

Is he on the roster? Sione Pouha?

Is he a draftee? Amobio Okoye? Louis Leonard?

Is he in the NFL? Terdell Sands?



it looks to be the single BIGGEST question . if they can fill that spot with quality it would be huge.


pun intended crazy.gif seriously though .

btw , Hampton may not be a 3technique but that doesn't mean he doesn't play the other tackle spot in the 4-3 .
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:41 PM

I must be the only one on this board, that thinks D-Rob is a good NT. Our only problem is the other DE, and depth. We need a better backup NT. I wish we got Grady Jackson, he led d-linemen in tackles for loss this year. He would of been a great signing for us. You just dont move that guy. The thing with Robertson though, is he isnt a huge guy that wont be moved, but he is a guy that uses his hands and gets off the ball fast and pushs the linemen back. But thats why we need a good back up, because he gets tired then doesnt come off as fast and then can get pushed. I really think that DE is our biggest problem on the d-line, though I cant see Robertson being the answer. At 6-1 317 he is kinda packed in. He isnt a tall muscle kind of guy, he more of a packed in guy. I dont think that he can get past OTs because of their long arms. Robertson has short arms. I think a 3-4 DE must has long arms and be around 6-4 or taller. Because its not like he can just use speed to get passed them. He has to lock on to these guys and and keep them off the LBs while not getting pushed or anything. Also if a guy comes Robertson's way, I doubt Robertson has to speed to get off and run to the sideline to get him. I much rather go after a DE for the 3-4, like go after Cory Redding, or draft Carriker. I want Carriker the most though, since he is 6-6 296, he will weigh around 310 in the pros.

Look at these 3-4 DEs, and look at their heights..
Seymour-6-6
Ty Warren-6-5
Igor Olshansky -6-6
Luis Castillo -6-3
Marcus Spears-6-4
Chris Canty-6-7
Aaron Smith-6-5
Brett Keisel-6-5
Shaun Ellis-6-5
Only 1 starting DE for a 3-4 team is under 6-4. Most are above 6-5.
Kimo-6-4
Now look at NTs height.
Jamal Williams-6-1, 348
Casey Hampton-6-1,325
Jason Ferguson-6-3, 310
Robertson-6-1, 317
Wilfork-6-2, 325
Also Robertson needs to do is gain alittle more weight. He needs to get to 320 atleast, maybe get himself to 325.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:50 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 21 2007, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I must be the only one on this board, that thinks D-Rob is a good NT. Our only problem is the other DE, and depth. We need a better backup NT. I wish we got Grady Jackson, he led d-linemen in tackles for loss this year. He would of been a great signing for us. You just dont move that guy. The thing with Robertson though, is he isnt a huge guy that wont be moved, but he is a guy that uses his hands and gets off the ball fast and pushs the linemen back. But thats why we need a good back up, because he gets tired then doesnt come off as fast and then can get pushed. I really think that DE is our biggest problem on the d-line, though I cant see Robertson being the answer. At 6-1 317 he is kinda packed in. He isnt a tall muscle kind of guy, he more of a packed in guy. I dont think that he can get past OTs because of their long arms. Robertson has short arms. I think a 3-4 DE must has long arms and be around 6-4 or taller. Because its not like he can just use speed to get passed them. He has to lock on to these guys and and keep them off the LBs while not getting pushed or anything. Also if a guy comes Robertson's way, I doubt Robertson has to speed to get off and run to the sideline to get him. I much rather go after a DE for the 3-4, like go after Cory Redding, or draft Carriker. I want Carriker the most though, since he is 6-6 296, he will weigh around 310 in the pros.

Look at these 3-4 DEs, and look at their heights..
Seymour-6-6
Ty Warren-6-5
Igor Olshansky -6-6
Luis Castillo -6-3
Marcus Spears-6-4
Chris Canty-6-7
Aaron Smith-6-5
Brett Keisel-6-5
Shaun Ellis-6-5
Only 1 starting DE for a 3-4 team is under 6-4. Most are above 6-5.
Kimo-6-4
Now look at NTs height.
Jamal Williams-6-1, 348
Casey Hampton-6-1,325
Jason Ferguson-6-3, 310
Robertson-6-1, 317
Wilfork-6-2, 325
Also Robertson needs to do is gain alittle more weight. He needs to get to 320 atleast, maybe get himself to 325.



yes...I know...he isn't the ideal height...but for the 18 millionth time...it has a lot more to do with style of play than size. IE - Space Eater vs. Pass Rusher. D Rob is a pass rushing DT...we need a space eating DT.

Besides it sounds to me like they want to move him around...maybe he'll be a DE on obvious rushing downs...and a NT on obvious passing downs...
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 21 2007, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes...I know...he isn't the ideal height...but for the 18 millionth time...it has a lot more to do with style of play than size. IE - Space Eater vs. Pass Rusher. D Rob is a pass rushing DT...we need a space eating DT.

Besides it sounds to me like they want to move him around...maybe he'll be a DE on obvious rushing downs...and a NT on obvious passing downs...

Yea I know that, and thats why I think that Robertson is a good NT, because he did play really good at it the 2nd half of the year. Robertson had his best year of his career this year, and it was at NT. Im just saying that he will probaly gain some weight this off season to around 320-325.
They probaly will move Robertson around, thats what they did this year, but he mainly played NT. I think that for the most part, we need depth on the d-line, and a true starter for DE. Carriker in the 2nd round sounds good to me, also we need a better OLB, Hobson is not good. He is overrated by most people, just becaue his stats look good. I look at things like, how many TFL does he get, and how he sheds blockers and how many QB pressures he gets. I like Hobson, but I do think that he may be a better ILB then OLB. We need a faster OLB on that side, thats why Im on the Jarvis Moss Bandwagon. He would be perfect, at 6-6, 250, plus he is the fastest DE in the draft, so he would make a good OLB, he would be a great pickup for us in the first round, if hes there.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 12:57 PM

now that i think about it, CJ Mosley i think could fill the void for NT
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jan 21 2007, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
now that i think about it, CJ Mosley i think could fill the void for NT

He may, but I really havent seen enough of him, only one game can I remember him playing in, the Vikings game, but he did do really good in that game. He did have a sack in it. crazy.gif
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Jan 20 2007, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
half of my wild thought has come true, Mike Tomlin has been hired as Steelers coach. Now Lets see if he inserts the cover 2 there.


Not just yet. Some sources are reporting he is close/going to be hired whilst others report Grimm is the man to replace the Chin.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 21 2007, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes...I know...he isn't the ideal height...but for the 18 millionth time...it has a lot more to do with style of play than size. IE - Space Eater vs. Pass Rusher. D Rob is a pass rushing DT...we need a space eating DT.

Besides it sounds to me like they want to move him around...maybe he'll be a DE on obvious rushing downs...and a NT on obvious passing downs...



yep . but he's not all wrong .

now get that big guy for the nose . then get a quality DE and have DRob , Shawn , your NT , AND A Quality DE to replace Oehlhofen , for the front of the D-Line rotatation .

ideally of course .
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:41 PM

QUOTE (Mehlfan @ Jan 21 2007, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yep . but he's not all wrong .

now get that big guy for the nose . then get a quality DE and have DRob , Shawn , your NT , AND A Quality DE to replace Oehlhofen , for the front of the D-Line rotatation .

ideally of course .


Yeah...of course...get the big guy for NT...but who?

There aren't exactly abundant options at the moment...in fact there are next to no options...I wonder what Tangini is going to do about the NT spot...
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