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Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 08:43 PM

Willie Mcginest is old. He's just not the player he used to be. Asante Samuel, on the other hand, is just entering his prime. It is possible he was a product of the system, but I think he just has a lot of upside.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 04:44 AM

your right though guys samuels is much younger and for some reason doesnt quite get the respect he deserves right now in the league for being as good as he is and hopefoully mangini being his former DB coach will keep him at that level that he's playing now............... mcginest did show his age alot this year too..................their linebackers right now with the exception of colvin could all collect social security but some how they defy their age.......something belichick puts in their gatorade?..............The main thing though that always stuck out to me looking at the leonard was that his team basically drafted him to be the D-Brick of their franchise except with even more upside than D-Brick and he never got close to living up to that potential......to me that stands out as underachieving which always is something that could infect a team and which is what in my opinion really hurt that cardinal o-line...But i think a change of scenery could help him turn around his career which has worked for plenty of other athletes......and giving up a draft pick would hurt us considering the depth that is in the draft this year
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE (tipceey @ Jan 20 2007, 05:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
your right though guys samuels is much younger and for some reason doesnt quite get the respect he deserves right now in the league for being as good as he is and hopefoully mangini being his former DB coach will keep him at that level that he's playing now............... mcginest did show his age alot this year too..................their linebackers right now with the exception of colvin could all collect social security but some how they defy their age.......something belichick puts in their gatorade?..............The main thing though that always stuck out to me looking at the leonard was that his team basically drafted him to be the D-Brick of their franchise except with even more upside than D-Brick and he never got close to living up to that potential......to me that stands out as underachieving which always is something that could infect a team and which is what in my opinion really hurt that cardinal o-line...But i think a change of scenery could help him turn around his career which has worked for plenty of other athletes......and giving up a draft pick would hurt us considering the depth that is in the draft this year


Yeah he seems to have a bit of a work ethic problem...so I perfectly understand that argument. But I think he is miscast as left tackle. In my opinion, he is the perfect run blocking right tackle.

The Cardinals line really did improve towards the end of the year...and most of that can be attributed to moving Reggie Wells to RT and plugging rookie Deuce Lutui in at G...but I also think that part of it may be due to Matt Leinart becoming the QB...thus switching which side the pass rushers come from as he is a lefty QB. So that makes the right side the blind side and, in essence, makes the left side the running side. It's a stretch, but I really think that helped.

And also, as you said, you don't have a lot of picks this year, so I really don't want to give up draft picks for a RFA in a draft that is probably even deeper than last year...I mean this draft has crazy talent all the way through the thir round!!!
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 11:48 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 20 2007, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah he seems to have a bit of a work ethic problem...so I perfectly understand that argument. But I think he is miscast as left tackle. In my opinion, he is the perfect run blocking right tackle.

The Cardinals line really did improve towards the end of the year...and most of that can be attributed to moving Reggie Wells to RT and plugging rookie Deuce Lutui in at G...but I also think that part of it may be due to Matt Leinart becoming the QB...thus switching which side the pass rushers come from as he is a lefty QB. So that makes the right side the blind side and, in essence, makes the left side the running side. It's a stretch, but I really think that helped.

And also, as you said, you don't have a lot of picks this year, so I really don't want to give up draft picks for a RFA in a draft that is probably even deeper than last year...I mean this draft has crazy talent all the way through the thir round!!!


That's exactly how I feel about this offseason. There is no point going after a guy like Michael Turner who will probably cost a 1st rounder and a huge contract when you could get a back like Michael Bush in the 2nd round with a relatively cheap first contract. The same with Starks. RT isn't as important money-wise than LT where we invested heavily in DBrick last year and having to give up a pick as well as another huge deal would be a waste when there are bound to be serviceable starters available in FA and the draft. Clements IMO didn't doo too badly this past season but obviously there is no harm in upgrading, but not if we are going to overpay hugely for a guy.

Rather than give up picks for RFAs or any player for that matter, I'd rather look to secure one or two more picks throughout the draft and with two 2nd rounders there is leverage for us to do just that as there certainly will be teams offering to jump up a few places due to the talent available in the draft.
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