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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 09:21 AM) As a guy who has been on this site since its inception and is still not a moderator which I guess is cause I'm not part of the rat pack who runs this joint I think GENO should still be the starter.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 10:19 AM) We still could have won this game with the bad calls. Geno just sucks. All the pick six's, missing wide open receivers, bad throws when they are fought. Stupid trick plays because they don't trust him.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:31 AM) I don't get his decision making
santana Icon : (Today, 10:32 AM) There were another 2-3 ints the bears were gifted but were dropped
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) f***
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) I had a blast at the game... just sucks we lost
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) 1-3 when I go se them
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:32 AM) Refs fucked up the fumble for a TD. by calling it down the first time everyone in the stadium saw it as a fumble
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) they need to just let them plays play out because they now look at every turnover
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) If hes down they could just overturn it on the replay
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) f*** Holmes to
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) gg2003 you want to be a mod?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) You have to go through your initiation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) Gg03 would be a terrif
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) what is the "initiation"
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:47 PM) :zz:
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:53 PM) and no I will not say that Idzik needs to be canned cause he doesn't
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:54 PM) he just needs to find talent at the CB and WR positions while also improving in positions that are currently our strengths like DL and OL
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 01:31 AM

He's most likely a free agent this offseason...what would you guys think of bringing him if he came relatively cheap?

I don't think it would be the best idea ever...he is small like Vilma...and two small ILB's in the 3-4 sounds like a bad idea to me. Perhaps Vilma could learn a thing or two about shedding blocks at such a small size. But eh...I think Vilma will be fine.

I'd personally rather move Hobson inside as many on this board have mentioned...and go after one of the pass rushing OLB's in the second round. Barton can be traded to a 4-3 team like the Jaguars, Eagles, or Rams. All 3 have deep playoff aspirations and I'm sure would love to add a veteran to their weakened OLB'ers.
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 02:35 AM

He's a pro-bowl MLB in 2003 who has had great success in 3-4 not to mention speed that we desperately need and some veteran leadership.......But most importantly he is a huge upgrade over kassell and barton......I would actually rather have him over A Thomas....So yea im all for him joing the JETS
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 04:26 AM

This is old news. I brought this up during the season. I think he's an all world LB but he's undersized similar to Vilma. IMO we need to get bigger and nastier up front. Donnie is more of a coverage LB then anything else. He used to play in space. We need some dogs upfront and no disrespect to Donnie but he gets to reap the rewards of having a great N.T and a damn good supporting cast that has been implemented in a 3-4 for a few years now. it doesn't mean he would be as productive here as he would in S.D. Just my 2 cents.
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 01:02 PM

we are in a youth movement. we do not need a 34 year old linebacker. plus, i agree with whats been said. nothing is going to make a difference without a proper 3-4 line which means gettin a huge, effective nose tackle. and as a former pro bowler and someone whos been in the league so long and is still performing at a relatively high level, he is going to want A LOT of money.

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Posted 19 January 2007 - 01:39 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 19 2007, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we are in a youth movement. we do not need a 34 year old linebacker. plus, i agree with whats been said. nothing is going to make a difference without a proper 3-4 line which means gettin a huge, effective nose tackle. and as a former pro bowler and someone whos been in the league so long and is still performing at a relatively high level, he is going to want A LOT of money.


this guy is right on the money. we are a young team which is one main reason why we do not want to sign adalius thomas this offseason. he just wouldn't fit in with the youth movement we started last season. also, hes not even that good anymore, and with his age, his production must be on the downslide. we are talking about getting rid of eric barton who will be 30 this season. no way we can use edwards who is much older than that.
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Posted 19 January 2007 - 10:18 PM

we should only think about bringing him in if he is gonna be cheap which he probally wont be
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:25 AM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 19 2007, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we are in a youth movement. we do not need a 34 year old linebacker. plus, i agree with whats been said. nothing is going to make a difference without a proper 3-4 line which means gettin a huge, effective nose tackle. and as a former pro bowler and someone whos been in the league so long and is still performing at a relatively high level, he is going to want A LOT of money.



the only way i think we should bring him in is if his contract is favorable, meaning if hes unproductive (which i highly doubt) we can cut him next season without taking much of a cap hit...................i do agree with you guys that this team is in a youth movement and should keep that going but with that said if there is one huge flaw in the D besides NT its that we dont have a wily vet that brings leadership with his play and voice in the locker room..and there is only a few positions that we can fix in free agency..... as there is no NT that can match the success or bring the upside that this guy could bring to the team.....i know alot of people think SANDs is the man but as i was well schooled on by people on this site size is not what makes a NT and he has never played in the 3-4 before ......Kimo is a vet but he certainly doesnt show it on the field....Edwards is a guy that has had great success before he met Jamal williams as he was a pro-bowler with the chiefs in 03' and in the 3-4...and his biggest attribute on this team could be the mentoring of Vilma....we know Vilma is frustrated in the 3-4 but this guy could show vilma the nuances of being a great 3-4 mlb....as great as ray lewis is he struggled mightily in the 3-4 and was never half the player he was in the 4-3 because he gave up on it and whinned until they reverted back to the 4-3.....It would be a very wise investment IMO to team vilma up with somebody who has had tremendous experience and success with it.....not to mention that we will get younger anyway at OLB in this years draft and eventually going to get rid of barton this year or next so Edwards "knowledge" of the 3-4 and MLB could be invaluable..........we can all agree that mangini is going to be the HC here for a very long time which means so will the 3-4 defense and it would be ashame if Vilma could not reach the potential of being the best MLB in the game which i think he has because he doesnt know the nuances of the system and decides to leave for a team that employs a system that is better suited for his style of play.....signing Edwards wouldnt be bringing in just another "old guy" but a player who still has pro-bowl ability and could help Vilma be twice the player he is now....if you ask me he is worth every cent he wants in that aspect alone..............not to mention he is 1000000000000000 times better than kassell LOL..........but really you cant expect a time full of young guys to be successfull in a new system especially without 2-3 guys who can be a mentor and play well in it
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jan 19 2007, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we should only think about bringing him in if he is gonna be cheap which he probally wont be

iagree.gif and to the ppl saying were trying to do a whole youth movement thing, still, y not for a couple years just make an improvment on a LB position, like get rid of barton or hobson for edwards or soemthin like that
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 04:06 PM

why would we sign a 34 year old LBer?
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 20 2007, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why would we sign a 34 year old LBer?

to help r LB core, that is if we can get him for cheap, and just have him fro a year or a couple more
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 20 2007, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
why would we sign a 34 year old LBer?


because he's one of the best whose doing it right now in the 3-4, can teach vilma, be a leader and is aging like a fine wine..
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 09:58 PM

his career is over. he slipped this year. i watch all the chargers games (since i live in SD) and donnie was not the same player he used to be. he is declining. if we signed him he'd be average at best. at this point barton is better. u guy seem to forget how good barton is
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:14 PM

i thought we were going to cut or trade barton? and Edwards had 142 tackles, 3 int, and 2 ff, thats a great year
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:47 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 20 2007, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
his career is over. he slipped this year. i watch all the chargers games (since i live in SD) and donnie was not the same player he used to be. he is declining. if we signed him he'd be average at best. at this point barton is better. u guy seem to forget how good barton is

i aggree barton is good but i think edwards is better so tahts y i said it, id much rather get rid of hobson than barton, hobsons ok too but again i think edwards is better
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:44 AM

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i aggree barton is good but i think edwards is better so tahts y i said it, id much rather get rid of hobson than barton, hobsons ok too but again i think edwards is better

Hobson was very good at the end of the year and I know it's been said a hundred times, but Hobson should move inside. He is a good tackler, which ILBs need to be to stop the run. Edwards is gonna be 34 when TC starts and Hobson is gonna be 27 and Hobson will be much cheaper. I'd pass on Edwards personally.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 06:26 PM

I think it would be a good move, hes a beast and great LB, screw size u want to talk about size talk about Sam Mills, smallest LB but best when he played. So get this undersized bs off here.

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