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Interesting Stat About Nugent And Other Elite Kickers.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 01:40 PM

Nugent had a career high of 88.9% kicking accuratcy this year. Thats his career high, now lets show some of the elite kickers in the leagues high.
David Akers-88.2
Adam Vinatari-90
Neil Rackers-95.2
Jeff Wilkens-92.9 (though dome kickers are high because of the no wind factor)
Mort Anderson-88.6
John Carney-92.0
Jason Elam-93.1
Now look they are all kinda close, but remember here that these are their best in their careers, when Nugent has only had 2 years. Now lets look at those same kickers in their 2nd years.
David Akers-50.0
Adam Vinatari-86.2
Neil Rackers-60.7
Jeff Wilkins-92.3
Mort Anderson-75.0
John Carney-0.0
Jason Elam-81.1
Mike Nugent-88.9
Now see Nugent had a better year, then almost all of the elite kickers in their 2nd year. Just thought it was pretty interesting how Nugent compares with them.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 01:49 PM

drinks.gif wow!!great post,he's only going to get better,i truly beleive that. yahoo.gif
QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 20 2007, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nugent had a career high of 88.9% kicking accuratcy this year. Thats his career high, now lets show some of the elite kickers in the leagues high.
David Akers-88.2
Adam Vinatari-90
Neil Rackers-95.2
Jeff Wilkens-92.9 (though dome kickers are high because of the no wind factor)
Mort Anderson-88.6
John Carney-92.0
Jason Elam-93.1
Now look they are all kinda close, but remember here that these are their best in their careers, when Nugent has only had 2 years. Now lets look at those same kickers in their 2nd years.
David Akers-50.0
Adam Vinatari-86.2
Neil Rackers-60.7
Jeff Wilkins-92.3
Mort Anderson-75.0
John Carney-0.0
Jason Elam-81.1
Mike Nugent-88.9
Now see Nugent had a better year, then almost all of the elite kickers in their 2nd year. Just thought it was pretty interesting how Nugent compares with them.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 02:21 PM

exactly, i was thinking something along the same lines, hes doing good for a 2nd year kicker
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 03:03 PM

now all the nugent haters are gonna become nugent lovers.
Get it done MT
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 20 2007, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
now all the nugent haters are gonna become nugent lovers.

i was a nugent lover originally, after awhile i started to doubt him just a little though but now im not worried really, especially seeing these stats, i mean i thought that it was like that but didnt know it was for a fact like it
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 04:49 PM

How could you not hate Nugent after he missed that extra point?
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:45 PM

Don't forget, if the Jets had a QB that could score TDs in the red zone, Nugent's FG % wouldn't be that high.

All kickers choke once in awhile, Nugent is better than most, but there's no excuse for the short kickoffs and the field position we consistently give up.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (priortothesnap @ Jan 20 2007, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't forget, if the Jets had a QB that could score TDs in the red zone, Nugent's FG % wouldn't be that high.

Well of coarse it wouldnt. It would be 0.0 if the Jets could score Tds in the redzone, because they wouldnt need to take fieldgoals. crazy.gif
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 20 2007, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well of coarse it wouldnt. It would be 0.0 if the Jets could score Tds in the redzone, because they wouldnt need to take fieldgoals. crazy.gif



Keyword(s) = red zone. Right? You did catch that? Just checkin' ---- many posters here don't know how to read.

He'd still need to kick FGs beyond the red zone.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE (matt x @ Jan 20 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How could you not hate Nugent after he missed that extra point?

u do know its not like hes the only one ever to miss an extra point
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:16 PM

He's a good kicker who should be around for the next few years. it took him a little longer than people expected for him to be a good kicker but he is now so thats that.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 09:58 PM

QUOTE (priortothesnap @ Jan 20 2007, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keyword(s) = red zone. Right? You did catch that? Just checkin' ---- many posters here don't know how to read.

He'd still need to kick FGs beyond the red zone.

Dude, he kicked a 54 yarder, a 52 yarder, he was 4-4 on 40-49 yards, 2-3 on 50+ yarders. I did read the redzone, but the guy only missed 3 kicks this year, and 1 extra point. Idk why you are argueing about him being bad. He is 10-12 from 30-39. And its not like his field goals come in the red zone, he made most of his field goals in the 30+ range.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:04 PM

QUOTE (priortothesnap @ Jan 20 2007, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keyword(s) = red zone. Right? You did catch that? Just checkin' ---- many posters here don't know how to read.

He'd still need to kick FGs beyond the red zone.


He's 6-7 on 40+ and the one miss was a 52 yarder
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 20 2007, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's 6-7 on 40+ and the one miss was a 52 yarder


If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the 52 yarder a pressure kick. I mean 6/7 from 40+ is good but yeah, he did make a game winner against the Fish, but it's those pressure kicks from (at least) 45+ yards that we need to see him hit. Like OhFive said, he gets his name back, but still needs to do a little bit more to prove himself. Give me a good pressure situation out of Nuge
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:34 PM

That's some damn fine researching there JetsFan0099. drinks.gif
I think the knack on Nugent as a whole has been kicking off, which we all know. I'm gonna go out on a limb when I say he didn't record a singe TB this year, not good, and no way do I want one kicker to kick FGs and some other guy kickoff. That's ridiculous. As soon as he does that, it'll be 100% love from everyone here I bet.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:50 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHellfighterNYC @ Jan 20 2007, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the 52 yarder a pressure kick. I mean 6/7 from 40+ is good but yeah, he did make a game winner against the Fish, but it's those pressure kicks from (at least) 45+ yards that we need to see him hit. Like OhFive said, he gets his name back, but still needs to do a little bit more to prove himself. Give me a good pressure situation out of Nuge


he didn't miss any presure kicks this year
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:48 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 20 2007, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dude, he kicked a 54 yarder, a 52 yarder, he was 4-4 on 40-49 yards, 2-3 on 50+ yarders. I did read the redzone, but the guy only missed 3 kicks this year, and 1 extra point. Idk why you are argueing about him being bad. He is 10-12 from 30-39. And its not like his field goals come in the red zone, he made most of his field goals in the 30+ range.



Uh, who's arguing? First off, I was taking a cynical shot at Pennington. Secondly, I was making a perfectly valid point about Nug's FG% dropping if you remove all the red zone chip-shot padding. He's 6/7 total outside the red zone (39 yds or longer). That's 85.7%, not 88.9%. When you said his FG% would be 00.0% if we scored only TDs in the red zone, that's true for the red, but not for his overall %. Just clarifying your unclear post, which seemed to imply either:

A. He only kicks FGs within the redzone, or
B. If he attempts anything longer, he'll miss them all

Anyway, 85.7% is still good, I wasn't knocking his FGs to begin with. Nugent made 20 red zone attempts, 23 if you count the WC. Not sure how many red zone appearances NY made in total, perhaps one of you hotshots can look that up.....
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:14 AM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Jan 20 2007, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the knack on Nugent as a whole has been kicking off, which we all know.


Which you all know? That's a friggin' joke. When I first posted it, all you butt-fumes got your knickers in a twist, and heaved fur balls for a good week.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb when I say he didn't record a singe TB this year.


It's hard to remember them, but he did do it twice. Like I said earlier, he must've had the help of a category-five hurricane on those occasions.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 03:04 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 20 2007, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
. He is 10-12 from 30-39. And its not like his field goals come in the red zone, he made most of his field goals in the 30+ range.


20 of his 27 FG attempts this season were from the red zone. Nugent uses an 8-yd snap, so anything 38-yds or less is red zone for him.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 21 2007, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No your wrong. Redzone is from the 20 yard line in. Thats the redzone. So that 20 for 27, is wrong, because he taken more out of the redzone then that, and if you take every kickers redzone shots then every kicker would drop. He still made them, so w/e.


Isn't a redzone attempt from whenever the offense has got inside the 20-yard line. So an attempt where the LOS is at the 20 yard line, probably a 38 yarder, would be counted as a redzone FG attempt?
If so then even if the offense got inside the 20, lost some yards, say to the 25 yard line, and settled for a FG with the LOS from there, that would be a redzone FG attempt.
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