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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 01:40 PM

Nugent had a career high of 88.9% kicking accuratcy this year. Thats his career high, now lets show some of the elite kickers in the leagues high.
David Akers-88.2
Adam Vinatari-90
Neil Rackers-95.2
Jeff Wilkens-92.9 (though dome kickers are high because of the no wind factor)
Mort Anderson-88.6
John Carney-92.0
Jason Elam-93.1
Now look they are all kinda close, but remember here that these are their best in their careers, when Nugent has only had 2 years. Now lets look at those same kickers in their 2nd years.
David Akers-50.0
Adam Vinatari-86.2
Neil Rackers-60.7
Jeff Wilkins-92.3
Mort Anderson-75.0
John Carney-0.0
Jason Elam-81.1
Mike Nugent-88.9
Now see Nugent had a better year, then almost all of the elite kickers in their 2nd year. Just thought it was pretty interesting how Nugent compares with them.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 01:49 PM

drinks.gif wow!!great post,he's only going to get better,i truly beleive that. yahoo.gif
QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 20 2007, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nugent had a career high of 88.9% kicking accuratcy this year. Thats his career high, now lets show some of the elite kickers in the leagues high.
David Akers-88.2
Adam Vinatari-90
Neil Rackers-95.2
Jeff Wilkens-92.9 (though dome kickers are high because of the no wind factor)
Mort Anderson-88.6
John Carney-92.0
Jason Elam-93.1
Now look they are all kinda close, but remember here that these are their best in their careers, when Nugent has only had 2 years. Now lets look at those same kickers in their 2nd years.
David Akers-50.0
Adam Vinatari-86.2
Neil Rackers-60.7
Jeff Wilkins-92.3
Mort Anderson-75.0
John Carney-0.0
Jason Elam-81.1
Mike Nugent-88.9
Now see Nugent had a better year, then almost all of the elite kickers in their 2nd year. Just thought it was pretty interesting how Nugent compares with them.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 02:21 PM

exactly, i was thinking something along the same lines, hes doing good for a 2nd year kicker
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 03:03 PM

now all the nugent haters are gonna become nugent lovers.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 20 2007, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
now all the nugent haters are gonna become nugent lovers.

i was a nugent lover originally, after awhile i started to doubt him just a little though but now im not worried really, especially seeing these stats, i mean i thought that it was like that but didnt know it was for a fact like it
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 04:49 PM

How could you not hate Nugent after he missed that extra point?
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:45 PM

Don't forget, if the Jets had a QB that could score TDs in the red zone, Nugent's FG % wouldn't be that high.

All kickers choke once in awhile, Nugent is better than most, but there's no excuse for the short kickoffs and the field position we consistently give up.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (priortothesnap @ Jan 20 2007, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't forget, if the Jets had a QB that could score TDs in the red zone, Nugent's FG % wouldn't be that high.

Well of coarse it wouldnt. It would be 0.0 if the Jets could score Tds in the redzone, because they wouldnt need to take fieldgoals. crazy.gif
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 20 2007, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well of coarse it wouldnt. It would be 0.0 if the Jets could score Tds in the redzone, because they wouldnt need to take fieldgoals. crazy.gif



Keyword(s) = red zone. Right? You did catch that? Just checkin' ---- many posters here don't know how to read.

He'd still need to kick FGs beyond the red zone.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE (matt x @ Jan 20 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How could you not hate Nugent after he missed that extra point?

u do know its not like hes the only one ever to miss an extra point
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:16 PM

He's a good kicker who should be around for the next few years. it took him a little longer than people expected for him to be a good kicker but he is now so thats that.

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 09:58 PM

QUOTE (priortothesnap @ Jan 20 2007, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keyword(s) = red zone. Right? You did catch that? Just checkin' ---- many posters here don't know how to read.

He'd still need to kick FGs beyond the red zone.

Dude, he kicked a 54 yarder, a 52 yarder, he was 4-4 on 40-49 yards, 2-3 on 50+ yarders. I did read the redzone, but the guy only missed 3 kicks this year, and 1 extra point. Idk why you are argueing about him being bad. He is 10-12 from 30-39. And its not like his field goals come in the red zone, he made most of his field goals in the 30+ range.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:04 PM

QUOTE (priortothesnap @ Jan 20 2007, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keyword(s) = red zone. Right? You did catch that? Just checkin' ---- many posters here don't know how to read.

He'd still need to kick FGs beyond the red zone.


He's 6-7 on 40+ and the one miss was a 52 yarder
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 20 2007, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's 6-7 on 40+ and the one miss was a 52 yarder


If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the 52 yarder a pressure kick. I mean 6/7 from 40+ is good but yeah, he did make a game winner against the Fish, but it's those pressure kicks from (at least) 45+ yards that we need to see him hit. Like OhFive said, he gets his name back, but still needs to do a little bit more to prove himself. Give me a good pressure situation out of Nuge
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:34 PM

That's some damn fine researching there JetsFan0099. drinks.gif
I think the knack on Nugent as a whole has been kicking off, which we all know. I'm gonna go out on a limb when I say he didn't record a singe TB this year, not good, and no way do I want one kicker to kick FGs and some other guy kickoff. That's ridiculous. As soon as he does that, it'll be 100% love from everyone here I bet.
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Posted 20 January 2007 - 10:50 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHellfighterNYC @ Jan 20 2007, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the 52 yarder a pressure kick. I mean 6/7 from 40+ is good but yeah, he did make a game winner against the Fish, but it's those pressure kicks from (at least) 45+ yards that we need to see him hit. Like OhFive said, he gets his name back, but still needs to do a little bit more to prove himself. Give me a good pressure situation out of Nuge


he didn't miss any presure kicks this year
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 01:48 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 20 2007, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dude, he kicked a 54 yarder, a 52 yarder, he was 4-4 on 40-49 yards, 2-3 on 50+ yarders. I did read the redzone, but the guy only missed 3 kicks this year, and 1 extra point. Idk why you are argueing about him being bad. He is 10-12 from 30-39. And its not like his field goals come in the red zone, he made most of his field goals in the 30+ range.



Uh, who's arguing? First off, I was taking a cynical shot at Pennington. Secondly, I was making a perfectly valid point about Nug's FG% dropping if you remove all the red zone chip-shot padding. He's 6/7 total outside the red zone (39 yds or longer). That's 85.7%, not 88.9%. When you said his FG% would be 00.0% if we scored only TDs in the red zone, that's true for the red, but not for his overall %. Just clarifying your unclear post, which seemed to imply either:

A. He only kicks FGs within the redzone, or
B. If he attempts anything longer, he'll miss them all

Anyway, 85.7% is still good, I wasn't knocking his FGs to begin with. Nugent made 20 red zone attempts, 23 if you count the WC. Not sure how many red zone appearances NY made in total, perhaps one of you hotshots can look that up.....
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:14 AM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Jan 20 2007, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the knack on Nugent as a whole has been kicking off, which we all know.


Which you all know? That's a friggin' joke. When I first posted it, all you butt-fumes got your knickers in a twist, and heaved fur balls for a good week.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb when I say he didn't record a singe TB this year.


It's hard to remember them, but he did do it twice. Like I said earlier, he must've had the help of a category-five hurricane on those occasions.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 03:04 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 20 2007, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
. He is 10-12 from 30-39. And its not like his field goals come in the red zone, he made most of his field goals in the 30+ range.


20 of his 27 FG attempts this season were from the red zone. Nugent uses an 8-yd snap, so anything 38-yds or less is red zone for him.
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Posted 21 January 2007 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 21 2007, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No your wrong. Redzone is from the 20 yard line in. Thats the redzone. So that 20 for 27, is wrong, because he taken more out of the redzone then that, and if you take every kickers redzone shots then every kicker would drop. He still made them, so w/e.


Isn't a redzone attempt from whenever the offense has got inside the 20-yard line. So an attempt where the LOS is at the 20 yard line, probably a 38 yarder, would be counted as a redzone FG attempt?
If so then even if the offense got inside the 20, lost some yards, say to the 25 yard line, and settled for a FG with the LOS from there, that would be a redzone FG attempt.
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