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The Next Herm Edwards?

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Post icon  Posted 22 January 2007 - 11:30 AM

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Tomlin, though, is a disciple of the Cover 2 scheme, a 4-3 front that he learned in Tampa Bay under former Bucs coach Tony Dungy and coordinator Monte Kiffin, and which he implemented in Minnesota this season when he was hired as coordinator. In an interview with the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette this week, Tomlin suggested he won't be tied down to one defense.

"I'm a fundamentalist as opposed to scheme," Tomlin said. "I think football is a tough man's game, an attrition game. You win by stopping the run and being able to run the ball effectively. And by doing the things winners do."

Yet given his affinity for the Cover 2 scheme, there is little question Tomlin will want to convert to a 4-3 front as quickly as possible. The bigger question: Does Pittsburgh possess the appropriate personnel for such a switch?



Man that sounds awfully close to a certain someone who used to coach the Jets..... Let's hope so! I hate the Steelers. Sperm Headwards always was saying that kind of stupid shit, "Play to win the game." "You win by stopping the run and running well." "Insert more PC bullshit and cliche's here."

Question is, why would the Steelers hire a guy that wasn't successful on defense and is a 1st year coordinator? I mean, yeah they had a good run defense, but those numbers are always skewed when it's because your team can't stop the pass so no one really runs on you, they just throw it. Interesting though, I just read this article because I wasn't sure why they went after this guy, it's not like he's a proven winner or anything, but none the less.... I got some weird creepy flashback half way through. Makes you appreciate Mangini that much more IMO.

However, this really is good news for the Jets. We can rob the Steelers of players and defensive coaches. Most notably Dick LeBeau. That would be sweet.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 11:52 AM

His philosophy fits right in with the Steelers: run the ball and play solid defense. From what you posted he seems a typical blue collar football guy rather than Edwards who didn't truly put into practice what he preached.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 22 2007, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
His philosophy fits right in with the Steelers: run the ball and play solid defense. From what you posted he seems a typical blue collar football guy rather than Edwards who didn't truly put into practice what he preached.


That's the point. Edwards said that same stuff, came from the same lineage, having the same philosophies. It's more along the lines of pulling a fleece over everyone's eyes. We haven't seen enough of Tomlin to make that assumption and that's not really what I'm meaning to bring out, but if you switched Tomlin's name with Edwards in that article.... you'd see that it could have been written about him. That's what I'm talking about. Lets hope for Pitts sake they don't get Herm #2, a spinster with the cliche terms of how to win by incorporating a Tampa 2 defense. I'll tell you what, if and when he dismantles that defense and it doesn't work out... the media is gonna be all over him.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 12:01 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 22 2007, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man that sounds awfully close to a certain someone who used to coach the Jets..... Let's hope so! I hate the Steelers. Sperm Headwards always was saying that kind of stupid shit, "Play to win the game." "You win by stopping the run and running well." "Insert more PC bullshit and cliche's here."

Question is, why would the Steelers hire a guy that wasn't successful on defense and is a 1st year coordinator? I mean, yeah they had a good run defense, but those numbers are always skewed when it's because your team can't stop the pass so no one really runs on you, they just throw it. Interesting though, I just read this article because I wasn't sure why they went after this guy, it's not like he's a proven winner or anything, but none the less.... I got some weird creepy flashback half way through. Makes you appreciate Mangini that much more IMO.

However, this really is good news for the Jets. We can rob the Steelers of players and defensive coaches. Most notably Dick LeBeau. That would be sweet.


wasn't successful?
the vikes defense was top 10 in total defense
number 1 in rushing (only team to not let up 1000 yards rushing in the NFL)
3rd in takeaways

thats looks good to me
Get it done MT
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:53 AM

You could say that about a lot of coaches...

Running the ball well and stopping the run IS the key to winning games...can't harp on the guy for being right! I think it's a good signing and I think he'll do a good job. Just remains to be seen what he does with all of those 3-4 players.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 12:13 PM

You know where Dungy learned the Cover 2 defense, as a backup QB on those Steeler superbowl teams.
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