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Peter King & Reader On Kellen Clemens

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 03:17 PM

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THE JETS HAVE A QUARTERBACK-IN-WAITING. From Adam, of Berkeley Heights, N.J.: "In your Jets comment this week, you say "Work hard, Kellen Clemens. Your chance is coming." Do you really think Clemens can be the real deal for the Jets or will they be stuck with Chad Pennington for a few more years before going out and getting someone else in the draft or free agency?''


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I think Eric Mangini would not have used a second-round pick on someone he was not planning to give a fair chance. Pennington is a splendid field general, but he has the weakest deep arm of any decent-or-better quarterback in the NFL. Offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer came back after scouting all the quarterbacks in the draft last year and raved about Clemens' smarts, field sense and arm strength. Oh, he'll get his chance to play sometime. You can be sure of that.

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:42 PM

My personal opinion is that Kellen starts next year. It's up to him to beat out Chad, but I know that they are gonna give Kellen every opportunity to compete. He's supposedly a really hard worker so I don't expect anything less from him. He's probably gonna take over sooner than later.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:47 PM

I'm hoping for sooner. We're not going to win much more under Chad.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:54 PM

Just look at the sig. You can't say he's gonna have rookie struggles cause he's not a rookie. Like i said in another thread its hard to change Qb's after a winning season but i can see Mangini say the better man won and Chad will help in different ways.

Unleash the cannons Schott. Clemens will get it done. You can open up ur play book now.

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:56 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 23 2007, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unleash the cannons Schott. Clemens will get it done. You can open up ur play book now.


That's the scary thought. Our offense was pretty effective all season. Just imagine what Lil' Schotty could do with Kellen. Hell he hand picked him. He pretty much created this offense for Kellen Clemens... unfortunately he had to adapt it to fit Chadwick's inability to throw it deep.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:09 PM

god i hope kellen starts i think hes gonna be a real good quarterback
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:14 PM

He'll be a great backup for many years
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE (BradSmith16 @ Jan 23 2007, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He'll be a great backup for many years



and brad smith is gonna be the qb for this team and lead us to the sb
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (BradSmith16 @ Jan 23 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He'll be a great backup for many years


Listen, don't ruin threads with your garbage. We're already getting sick of people spamming the boards and it's evident that you have a hard-on for BradSmith. It's getting pretty damn old that everytime someone brings up Kellen you come in and trash him because you think that Brad Smith should be the QB of the Jets. News flash: NO ONE ON THE JETS OR IN THE NFL THINKS BRAD SMITH IS A QB.

So do us all a favor and shut the hell up about Brad Smith and your blatantly predictable posts about the situation. It's getting old.... real old.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:24 PM

Brad Smith= Antwan Randel el but more versitile. If your lucky BSMITH16 once Kellen leads this team to a SB. Schott might give him a trick play in which he throws a TD pass to cotchery. Thats all the QBing he'll do that and what he did against the Raiders. That was funny

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:28 PM

Kellen has all the tools to be a field general just like Chad. Actually I think selecting Kellen to learn and back up Chad also having been under the tutelage of an amazing Q.B coach/Offensive genius in Schotty, I think that Kellen has all the makings of dethroning Chad sooner or later to eventually leading this team for years to come.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:46 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Listen, don't ruin threads with your garbage. We're already getting sick of people spamming the boards and it's evident that you have a hard-on for BradSmith. It's getting pretty damn old that everytime someone brings up Kellen you come in and trash him because you think that Brad Smith should be the QB of the Jets. News flash: NO ONE ON THE JETS OR IN THE NFL THINKS BRAD SMITH IS A QB.

So do us all a favor and shut the hell up about Brad Smith and your blatantly predictable posts about the situation. It's getting old.... real old.



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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:55 PM

I don't see how you guys could know Clemens will be a great QB when you don't present any evidence to prove he will be great let alone the starter on opening day.

It should be obvious what's going to happen, the same thing that happened in 2002. Like Vinny, Chad will start the season and then will be benched in favor of Kellen. Now if that is next season is debatable. Chad sat on the bench for his first two years and still didn't get the starting job on opening day 2002. Clemens may not be the starter until sometime during the 2008 season. And I think the Jets will sign another QB after the draft or maybe even draft one on day 2.

Basically nobody knows what kind of QB Kellen Clemens will be.

Anyway the team needs a running back before anything else.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:41 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Listen, don't ruin threads with your garbage. We're already getting sick of people spamming the boards and it's evident that you have a hard-on for BradSmith. It's getting pretty damn old that everytime someone brings up Kellen you come in and trash him because you think that Brad Smith should be the QB of the Jets. News flash: NO ONE ON THE JETS OR IN THE NFL THINKS BRAD SMITH IS A QB.

So do us all a favor and shut the hell up about Brad Smith and your blatantly predictable posts about the situation. It's getting old.... real old.


Listen with all due respect, BradSmith16 didnt actually say anything about Kellen being a great backup because Brad Smith will be the starter. That is simply a conclusion that you and the previous poster came to. I think we should practice a little restraint when attacking a fellow NYJetsFan member.

That being said, I do not think Kellen will be a starter next season, nor do I think he will start the season after that. He will get his chance some day, but it may not even be with these Jets. The job is currently Chad's to lose and I dont see him making the mistakes it would take to get him yanked out of the starters role.

Not to mention Chad is going to have a full offseason of conditioning, studying and QB work. He didnt have that luxury in recent years. The end result will be an even better Chad in 2007. I am sad to see that so many people have given up on old #10..but I respect all of your opinions. I simply disagree. Especially with the persistent noodle arm references and weak arm arguments. Simple fact of the matter is I think people are taking a fact..and blowing it out of proportion. Does Chad have a weaker arm than Peyton and Brady, yes. Does he have a weaker arm than a number of QBs in this league..possibly. But by no means is his arm weak. It is all relative, but Chad has more than enough arm to get it done. Tell me one route he cannot throw, because there is none...he is a complete QB.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:46 PM

After everything Chad has fought through to make it back, I would'nt count him out just yet.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 10:28 PM

Chad will definetly start in 2007 and he deserves that opportunity. This is a make or break year for him. If he succeeds, then he is our QB but if he struggles Kellen will become our guy.


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Posted 23 January 2007 - 10:53 PM

QUOTE (Mephisto @ Jan 23 2007, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chad will definetly start in 2007 and he deserves that opportunity. This is a make or break year for him. If he succeeds, then he is our QB but if he struggles Kellen will become our guy.

wtf! make or break? hes 31 bro hes already half broken and the league doesnt wait up for anyone, he had his chance this year in foxboro, HE BROKE his rotator cuz and HE CANT MAKE deep throws - theres ur make or break - kellens is mobile, smart, strong armed, and i believe he will pick up the offense, (considering this is the first time in years well be running the same offense in consecutive years) since he studied it one year.... hes the next phillip rivers, the saints gave up on brees and look where it got them a 14-2 record
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 11:16 PM

all hail kellen
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 08:31 AM

why is everyone so down on chad? u do realize that every year he starterd a majorite o the games we made the playoff right? every single one. and everyone he didn't our team sucked. who cares about arm strength. vick has one on the strongest arms in the league and chad is a 10 times better QB then vick. get over your love of deep passes. whats next? pete rose sucked even though he batted 400 just cause he never hit 60 home runs in a season? jason kid sucks causse he never averaged 25 points a seaosn despite he's almost the all time leader in triple doubles? martin sucked cause he coudln't break big runs? there are more important things for a QB then a huge arm, you only go deep about what 5 - 6 times a game? what about all the other plays
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 10:19 AM

QUOTE (Pennington @ Jan 23 2007, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Listen with all due respect, BradSmith16 didnt actually say anything about Kellen being a great backup because Brad Smith will be the starter. That is simply a conclusion that you and the previous poster came to. I think we should practice a little restraint when attacking a fellow NYJetsFan member.


We've been real patient with people that are on this board to draw attention to themselves by annoying everyone else. EvanstonJet was exibit A. This kid is exibit B. Bottom line is we're cleaning this up because the overall quality has declined and it's because of people like this.



And why are people still bringing up the "How do you know" card? Seriously, the kid has a gun for an arm and he's mobile and I think he was the only one to throw TD's in the preseason... or atleast it seemed. I saw him play. He was pretty good. I like him, he's got more potential than Chad. He can atleast take advantage of a WR's speed. I like Chad as much as the next guy but he's never gotten us anywhere. He's basically, with exception to this season, a poor man's Peyton Manning. He plays OK in the regular season and then shits himself when it matters.

Sometimes you just gotta cut your losses. Chad's 31, his arm is weak, and we drafted a QB in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year who might actually be a great QB. We know what Chad brings us, why don't we see what Clemens can do. Atleast we'd see our WR's production go through the roof.
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