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Sources Say Jets Willing To Part With 1st Round Pick For Michael Turner

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 03:40 PM

http://www.rotoworld...ort=NFL&id=2641

Scout.com reports "sources familiar with the Chargers" believe the Jets are willing to trade their first-round pick for Michael Turner. Turner, a restricted free agent, isn't even under contract with San Diego, but this appears to be a possibility once he's tendered. The Jets would then explore signing him long term. San Diego is reportedly now looking at running back prospects, possibly Penn State's Tony Hunt.
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i would be super pissed if we did this. "i do not think micheal turner is worth a 1st round draft choice. even though it will be at #25, we should bring in our own players via the draft and coach them up in our system. i just feel like we would be getting ripped off because SD wouldn't be losing anything. whether or not turner is on their team next season does not really matter since they have LT. giving them a 1st rounder when james and alexander couldn't even get a 2nd rounder would be totally unfair to us. we should just draft micheal bush at #37 since he might be the steal of the draft when he turns out to be a TD machine."
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:10 PM

this might just be a smoke screen by the Chargers looking to get a higher pick in the 1st round for turner or it could be a smoke scrren by the Jets looking to trap the Chargers into trading Turner for a 2nd rounder..

if its the Jets than Schott must really have seen something in the guy from his time in San Diego if he's willing to give up a first!
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:38 PM

Scout.com doesn't know a thing about what the Jets are gonna do. Who are these "sources"? Last time I checked, the Jets front office was like Fort Knox. Infomation doesn't leak out of there anymore.

It's not even offseason yet and there are so-called sources inside the Chargers FO that are telling people Michael Turner is up for a grabs? I don't think so. Sounds like some talking internet heads. I'm willing to bet that the Turner doesn't even come to NY because the Jets aren't gonna part with draft picks when they can get a RB in the draft. Tanny knows better. He's already said they are gonna build the right way. You don't trade for a franchise RB, you draft them.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:42 PM

No f.ing thank you he's not worth a first rounder, he's gonna ask for a lot of money because he's like the only FA RB, and we could just get Micheal Bush in the second round meanwhile we can get a DE in the first round. He's Not that good.

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't trade for a franchise RB, you draft them.

Exactly look at Edgrein James and the cards

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 23 2007, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No f.ing thank you he's not worth a first rounder, he's gonna ask for a lot of money because he's like the only FA RB, and we could just get Micheal Bush in the second round meanwhile we can get a DE in the first round. He's Not that good.


Let's hope management realizes that too! These days I get nervous.

In all honesty, this is just the same speculation that reporters keep writing about because it's been out there written already by some other moron that is speculating. It's people SPECULATING. They wouldn't even give up a 1st round pick for Reggie Bush. Why would they do it for Turner?
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:49 PM

Bush is kinda like the Maurice Jones-Drew in this draft. and i wouldnt mind having a guy like that on this team. He got some major yards while splitting time w/ Taylor. He also ran all over the Pats. icon_idea.gif

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:44 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 23 2007, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No f.ing thank you he's not worth a first rounder, he's gonna ask for a lot of money because he's like the only FA RB, and we could just get Micheal Bush in the second round meanwhile we can get a DE in the first round. He's Not that good.
Exactly look at Edgrein James and the cards


That's because the Cards o-line blows. Look at Marshall Faulk and the Rams, he was drafted by the Colts, look at Corey Dillon, he was drafted by the Bengals, but he helped the Pats get to the Super Bowl in 04. Not saying to give the Chargers a 1st, but James isn't the problem in Arizona.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Scout.com doesn't know a thing about what the Jets are gonna do. Who are these "sources"? Last time I checked, the Jets front office was like Fort Knox. Infomation doesn't leak out of there anymore.


Exactly.. man you're on the money today. iagree.gif . Bogus material!
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't trade for a franchise RB, you draft them.

Just throwing this out there. We didn't draft curtis martin.


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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:28 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Scout.com doesn't know a thing about what the Jets are gonna do. Who are these "sources"? Last time I checked, the Jets front office was like Fort Knox. Infomation doesn't leak out of there anymore.

It's not even offseason yet and there are so-called sources inside the Chargers FO that are telling people Michael Turner is up for a grabs? I don't think so. Sounds like some talking internet heads. I'm willing to bet that the Turner doesn't even come to NY because the Jets aren't gonna part with draft picks when they can get a RB in the draft. Tanny knows better. He's already said they are gonna build the right way. You don't trade for a franchise RB, you draft them.



I agree with your point on this but the one exception would have to be Curtis


not saying this guy is the next Curtis .. but it woudnt be the first time we got one that way
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 23 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bush is kinda like the Maurice Jones-Drew in this draft. and i wouldnt mind having a guy like that on this team. He got some major yards while splitting time w/ Taylor. He also ran all over the Pats. icon_idea.gif


I don't know what you're pointing to saying they are similiar...but I don't see any similiarities...other than possible draft spots.

Michael Bush is 6'3"...
Maurice Drew is 5'7"...

Michael Bush is injured...
Maurice Drew had a killer final season...

Michael Bush is a big, slow guy...
Marice Drew is a burner with power...



I just don't see the comparisons...
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:48 PM

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QUOTE (Mephisto @ Jan 23 2007, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just throwing this out there. We didn't draft curtis martin.

iagree.gif michael turner has the abilties to become a very good back. He is fast, big and strong
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:28 PM

This trade is a good thing. I think the NY teams need to band together and make stupid trades to make the Chargers as strong as possible. The Giants already did their part...
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:33 PM

If they did that trade, I will be alittle bit mad, unless Turner runs for over 1,200 yards, I will say it was a horrible trade. Turner was a 5th round draft pick, and people are acting like this guy is top 10 talent. Or even first round talent, the Chargers have to know that he really doesnt have that much value, I mean the most carries he had in a season was 80. Thats not worth a first round pick to me. I would be mad if this happened.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Scout.com doesn't know a thing about what the Jets are gonna do. Who are these "sources"? Last time I checked, the Jets front office was like Fort Knox. Infomation doesn't leak out of there anymore.


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Good post. IMO it all seems like speculation. I doubt anyone really knows what the Jets are going to this offseason (besides themselves), which is the way it should be.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 23 2007, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know what you're pointing to saying they are similiar...but I don't see any similiarities...other than possible draft spots.

Michael Bush is 6'3"...
Maurice Drew is 5'7"...

Michael Bush is injured...
Maurice Drew had a killer final season...

Michael Bush is a big, slow guy...
Marice Drew is a burner with power...
I just don't see the comparisons...

Yeah Bad analogy would Steven Jackson from STL be a better comaparison to Bush

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 23 2007, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah Bad analogy would Steven Jackson from STL be a better comaparison to Bush

id sayy bush is a jamal lewis like back





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Posted 24 January 2007 - 10:31 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 23 2007, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they did that trade, I will be alittle bit mad, unless Turner runs for over 1,200 yards, I will say it was a horrible trade. Turner was a 5th round draft pick, and people are acting like this guy is top 10 talent. Or even first round talent, the Chargers have to know that he really doesnt have that much value, I mean the most carries he had in a season was 80. Thats not worth a first round pick to me. I would be mad if this happened.


If he didn't run for 1600 yards then I'd be pissed. 1200 is pedestrian for a 1st round pick.

None the less, Tony Hunt seems to be on the Jets radar. He's a big back at 237 lbs. That's nice.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 12:05 PM

For the 179th time, Turner has not proved he is worth giving up a 1st round pick for! Especially this year with the amount of talent available in the draft.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 12:25 PM

It's no secret that I don't think Turner is worthy of a first rounder. However, as others have said, Schott was in San Diego for Turner's first two years. He certainly knows a lot more about Turner than any of us do. If he and Tangini decide to give up the first rounder for him, there must be a damn good reason. If they do pull the trigger on this, I'm gonna reserve my judgement until I see Turner play. I'm hoping they don't, but if they do it could only be because Schott really likes him.
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