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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:06 AM

From mortensen's blog at espn.com

Jets coach Eric Mangini got an excused absence from attending the Senior Bowl. "He needed to get away," said Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum. "He burned it pretty hard going back to the day he was hired."



I realize how hard he worked all year, but does this affect the scouting at all in your opinions? Im just curious because Tanny is great, but if mangini was there to see a guy like Carriker or Okoye or Bowe who is blowing shit up right now it might influence what we do come draft day. I mean film is one thing, but from what Kiper says Carriker is the first player you notice during the workouts dominating...Mangini being the 3/4 guy might say "we need this guy" if he saw him in person.....thoughts??

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:22 AM

I would like him to be there but he must have needed the break if he is not.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:26 AM

No, I dont think it does. I think it's more important for him to get some rest than it is for him to be there. We have reps there. That's what the scouting team is for. Mangini will watch film on these guys.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 26 2007, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, I dont think it does. I think it's more important for him to get some rest than it is for him to be there. We have reps there. That's what the scouting team is for. Mangini will watch film on these guys.



Agreed. If he's fried he'll never make the right decisions.
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"Are you OK?" he said, trying to keep calm. "Are you OK?"
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:46 AM

QUOTE (bluelinecop @ Jan 26 2007, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. If he's fried he'll never make the right decisions.


Exactly. He'd be less able to give the attention to details and he'd overlook certain things which isn't what we want. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure that's why they hire a scouting team.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:48 AM

QUOTE (bluelinecop @ Jan 26 2007, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. If he's fried he'll never make the right decisions.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:52 AM

iagree.gif with all those who agree its better for Mangini to get rest. everyone put great points and i just wanna reitterate that the scouts are gunna be there to do their jobs and he can watch film latter in good health instead of being tired, burnt, out and not wanting to look at people or film this week. Let the guy rest up he deserves it. Everyone else is paid to scout um so let them do their job.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:52 AM

Not syaing I dont agree....I just think he is the one who knows the 3/4 the best and it would be nice if he were there. Plus, either way, i thought it might give us something new to talk about for a few minutes besides whether we hate or love pennington and whether we should give up a 1st for turner.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 26 2007, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not syaing I dont agree....I just think he is the one who knows the 3/4 the best and it would be nice if he were there. Plus, either way, i thought it might give us something new to talk about for a few minutes besides whether we hate or love pennington and whether we should give up a 1st for turner.


No kidding. Although I like to debate the QB issue. The only thing that isn't even an issue is that Turner is not worth a 1st round pick. Some team is gonna be stupid enough to trade for him and I'm just hoping that's not the Jets.

At the end of the day, I dont think they are gonna be scouting the RB's too hard out there. I think they're interested in Bush. Production is what it is and the kid was really productive. I think the player they're really interested in is Adam Carriker. Probably looking at those tweeners too.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 26 2007, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not syaing I dont agree....I just think he is the one who knows the 3/4 the best and it would be nice if he were there. Plus, either way, i thought it might give us something new to talk about for a few minutes besides whether we hate or love pennington and whether we should give up a 1st for turner.


The scouts there will know what Mangini and Tannenbaum are looking for for players to play in the 3-4 as they will have been heavily briefed. Tannenbaum and Mangini are on the same wavelength too so it won't really be a disadvantage to us with Mangini kicking his feet up and enjoying time with his family.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 26 2007, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No kidding. Although I like to debate the QB issue. The only thing that isn't even an issue is that Turner is not worth a 1st round pick. Some team is gonna be stupid enough to trade for him and I'm just hoping that's not the Jets.

At the end of the day, I dont think they are gonna be scouting the RB's too hard out there. I think they're interested in Bush. Production is what it is and the kid was really productive. I think the player they're really interested in is Adam Carriker. Probably looking at those tweeners too.


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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:20 PM

He told his guys what he wants, and they know what to look for, and plus Mr.T is there, and he knows the core values and everything. They will tell him everything he needs to know. The Superbowl teams HCs arent there. They have their reps there too.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:22 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 26 2007, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He told his guys what he wants, and they know what to look for, and plus Mr.T is there, and he knows the core values and everything. They will tell him everything he needs to know. The Superbowl teams HCs arent there. They have their reps there too.


At first I thought you were actually talking about Mr. T, who is a big Jets fan. I was thinking to myself, how in the world does that help the Jets? crazy.gif
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:51 PM

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At first I thought you were actually talking about Mr. T, who is a big Jets fan. I was thinking to myself, how in the world does that help the Jets? crazy.gif

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 01:24 PM

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At first I thought you were actually talking about Mr. T, who is a big Jets fan. I was thinking to myself, how in the world does that help the Jets? crazy.gif

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 03:24 PM

well its good if tannys there i guess i hope mangini watches the bowl and practices on tv tho

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 05:12 PM

Thats why you have scouts. These guys get paid handsomely to make the right evaluations. I'm sure Mangini will watch film on the guys they have their eyes on. He's human not a robot. He has burned the candle at both ends all year. He has a family and kids. He needs this!

This is what teams pay scouts for. Tannenbaum is there as well it's no big deal.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:19 PM

magini deserves a break he worked his ass of this season
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:34 PM

i'm not worried about it. he must trust the scouts that were sent to brief him later.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jan 26 2007, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
magini deserves a break he worked his ass of this season


Well said, you give this guy whatever he WANTS. His family needs to be a priority as well. Not happy at home, not happy at work, Not happy at work=Bad results.
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