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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 01:35 PM

Poeple seem to forget that free agency comes be4 the draft. what we do in free agency will change our needs and draft picks. we should be talking more about free agency
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 01:37 PM

I know, to many people are basing everything on if we dont pick anyone in the FA, people think that every hole has to be filled by the draft.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 01:42 PM

I think Tangini will go after a CB such as Samuel or Clements if either becomes available in FA. Our front office is smart and won't overpay for someone who perhaps is getting on a bit in NFL terms when there are cheaper alternatives who could be just as good available in the draft; Tannenbaum has already said the Jets will build through the draft.
Another position that could be filled through FA is G and RT but I only see one or two big money signings and a couple cheaper players being signed such as Banta Cain.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 02:19 PM

Does free agency start right after the superbowl?
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 02:56 PM

the draft is wayyyyyyyyy more important then FA..........people dont understand that its extremely rare to find anyone in FA that makes an impact on your team..........our chances of getting a great CB are extremely low...........we are in great cap condition but so is everyone else in the league except for like 5 teams........if you make FA dictate what you do in the draft you start looking like the redskins or even worse....................da raiders..............good teams dont get caught up in FA or make a splash
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 03:03 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 27 2007, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Tangini will go after a CB such as Samuel or Clements if either becomes available in FA. Our front office is smart and won't overpay for someone who perhaps is getting on a bit in NFL terms when there are cheaper alternatives who could be just as good available in the draft; Tannenbaum has already said the Jets will build through the draft.
Another position that could be filled through FA is G and RT but I only see one or two big money signings and a couple cheaper players being signed such as Banta Cain.


I just don't understand wanting to sign Banta-Cain...he's a good backup at best. You draft those kind of guys...you don't sign them. You don't see the Patriots going out and signing guys like Banta Cain...you draft them!
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 27 2007, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't understand wanting to sign Banta-Cain...he's a good backup at best. You draft those kind of guys...you don't sign them. You don't see the Patriots going out and signing guys like Banta Cain...you draft them!




let the redskins sign him to a 30 million dollar contract while NE drafts a guy in the 6th round who is more productive
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 03:14 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 27 2007, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't understand wanting to sign Banta-Cain...he's a good backup at best. You draft those kind of guys...you don't sign them. You don't see the Patriots going out and signing guys like Banta Cain...you draft them!


He's a Mangini guy though so it's inevitable that we take a look at him in FA.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 03:20 PM

I know coach wants to build this team with his type of guys but I want a playmaker on this team and we need to go after Turner and a DT in Free Agency way before the draft even starts.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 03:47 PM

I want Dwight Freeney in FA and Leon Hall in the first round.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 04:48 PM

QUOTE (Jigsaw @ Jan 27 2007, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know coach wants to build this team with his type of guys but I want a playmaker on this team and we need to go after Turner and a DT in Free Agency way before the draft even starts.

iagree.gif with jigsaw and jersey jet but if we get freeny we need to switch him to olb
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (JerseyJet @ Jan 27 2007, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want Dwight Freeney in FA and Leon Hall in the first round.



Freeney is too small to play end in the 3-4. He could probably be a monster at OLB but he doesn't want to make the switch... he was criticizing Houston for moving Mario Williams around this year. I say no Dwight Freeney, same goes for Patrick Kerney.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:27 PM

QUOTE (Kirby JUICE @ Jan 27 2007, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Freeney is too small to play end in the 3-4. He could probably be a monster at OLB but he doesn't want to make the switch... he was criticizing Houston for moving Mario Williams around this year. I say no Dwight Freeney, same goes for Patrick Kerney.



the 49ers are the top team after him and he would have to switch to olb because they run a 3-4........they wouldnt be that interested in him if he didnt want to make the switch............ i agree on kearney.....he's too slow to be an olb and to small for DE
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:52 PM

QUOTE (tipceey @ Jan 27 2007, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the 49ers are the top team after him and he would have to switch to olb because they run a 3-4........they wouldnt be that interested in him if he didnt want to make the switch............ i agree on kearney.....he's too slow to be an olb and to small for DE


Actually San fran isnt even positive he's gonna fit over there


Hes on the list, Nolan said of Freeney. (If) we put him in this environment, maybe he becomes the other (kind of player). Maybe not, but hes a good player. I dont want to take anything away from him. But one player affects another. And Im trying to build a football team and not someone who just gets stats.

Besides, I've read about the 9ers being interested in Freeney, not vice versa but maybe you've seen something I haven't.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:54 PM

QUOTE (nysackexchange @ Jan 27 2007, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does free agency start right after the superbowl?

No it starts in March.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (Kirby JUICE @ Jan 27 2007, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually San fran isnt even positive he's gonna fit over there
Hes on the list, Nolan said of Freeney. (If) we put him in this environment, maybe he becomes the other (kind of player). Maybe not, but hes a good player. I dont want to take anything away from him. But one player affects another. And Im trying to build a football team and not someone who just gets stats.

Besides, I've read about the 9ers being interested in Freeney, not vice versa but maybe you've seen something I haven't.


San Fran is going to land Adalius Thomas.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (tipceey @ Jan 27 2007, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the draft is wayyyyyyyyy more important then FA..........people dont understand that its extremely rare to find anyone in FA that makes an impact on your team..........our chances of getting a great CB are extremely low...........we are in great cap condition but so is everyone else in the league except for like 5 teams........if you make FA dictate what you do in the draft you start looking like the redskins or even worse....................da raiders..............good teams dont get caught up in FA or make a splash

The draft is more important, but in the draft you dont always get a impact player, when in the FA, you can get a proven player. The draft is the way to build your team and put them through your system, the FA is to get imediate starters, or just back ups and stuff.

If there is one guy that we get, please let it be Samuel! He knows the system, its a cant miss pickup..... The only thing is, he wants alot of money, I guess atleast if he leaves the east......
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 27 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The draft is more important, but in the draft you dont always get a impact player, when in the FA, you can get a proven player. The draft is the way to build your team and put them through your system, the FA is to get imediate starters, or just back ups and stuff.

If there is one guy that we get, please let it be Samuel! He knows the system, its a cant miss pickup..... The only thing is, he wants alot of money, I guess atleast if he leaves the east......

i agree samuels is cant miss but we would have to stand in line with about 25 other teams who are salivating over him and have great cap space.........this guy is going to get paid
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 28 2007, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The draft is more important, but in the draft you dont always get a impact player, when in the FA, you can get a proven player. The draft is the way to build your team and put them through your system, the FA is to get imediate starters, or just back ups and stuff.

If there is one guy that we get, please let it be Samuel! He knows the system, its a cant miss pickup..... The only thing is, he wants alot of money, I guess atleast if he leaves the east......


iagree.gif The draft is the cheapest and therefore best way to build your team as you normally have to overpay slightly for a player in FA but FA does provide a more immediate fix than building through the draft. I don't want to see us go after too many FAs - Samuel is top of my list as drafting a CB will mean the rookie has to take a lot of time to adjust to the NFL whereas you can plug Samuel in straight away and be successful.
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