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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 04:58 PM

http://www.footballs...ic.php?t=100598
Take a look at this mock

How would u guys feel with drafting Jarvis Moss? He could go to OLB to occasional and be a Bryon Thomas player. O think its either him or Carriker in the first for us. Carriker is probably a better DE but having the versitility to be an OLB is what makes Moss a good pick. Besides Carriker the way he has been performing senior week has improved his stock to above our pick.

With Bush we all know if he can be great after his injury would be a great pick and would share with Leon to make our backfield complete

Josh Beekman is great value at our other 2nd rounder. He will strengthen the right side in both pass protection and run blocking

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:01 PM

id love carriker, bush/hunt, and beekman.....might be a pipe dream though

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:06 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 27 2007, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
id love carriker, bush/hunt, and beekman.....might be a pipe dream though

yeah well an eagles fan made it tho

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:14 PM

j/w y does every1 think troy smith is a 2nd rounder, IMO hes better then brady quinn, and plus who was it that won the heisman again?
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jan 27 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
j/w y does every1 think troy smith is a 2nd rounder, IMO hes better then brady quinn, and plus who was it that won the heisman again?


Jason White also won the Heisman...look where he is
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHellfighterNYC @ Jan 27 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jason White also won the Heisman...look where he is

so...if we went by that policy then the heisman wouldnt mean as much, i mean i know he had a horrible game against miami but thats one game, he still did good against michigan and other top teams, what happened to brady quinn against top teams like michigan and LSU
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:28 PM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jan 27 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
j/w y does every1 think troy smith is a 2nd rounder, IMO hes better then brady quinn, and plus who was it that won the heisman again?


He's short. 6' exactly, according to espn.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHellfighterNYC @ Jan 27 2007, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jason White also won the Heisman...look where he is


the problem with jason white was by the time he enetered the dratf his knees were so bad he wen't undrafted. he tried out with the titans but his knees wouldn't let him play. had he not had the knee injury things would ahve been different and he would have been a 2 time hiesman winner
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:50 PM

Beekman is a guard
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:52 PM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Jan 27 2007, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Beekman is a guard

He could play both at 6'2 315 pounds

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 27 2007, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He could play both at 6'2 315 pounds


No his arms are too short for tackle...Beekman is strictly a guard in my eyes.

That being said I think it's a good pick at our 2b...
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 06:04 PM

i think there is a really goood chance we draft a lineman with one of our first three picks if we dont sign someone in free agency. The line held up in pass protection but was pretty poor in run blocking, I would like that pick.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 07:46 PM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jan 27 2007, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so...if we went by that policy then the heisman wouldnt mean as much, i mean i know he had a horrible game against miami but thats one game, he still did good against michigan and other top teams, what happened to brady quinn against top teams like michigan and LSU

The Heisman is just for the best college player. Being the best college player has nothing to do with being a good NFL prospect. Look at Eric Crouch. He "retired" before he ever played a game. I'm not exactly sure how you can do that, but he did.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 27 2007, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Heisman is just for the best college player. Being the best college player has nothing to do with being a good NFL prospect. Look at Eric Crouch. He "retired" before he ever played a game. I'm not exactly sure how you can do that, but he did.


Yeah, this is what I wanted to say...but couldn't figure out how to say it lol
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QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jan 27 2007, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so...if we went by that policy then the heisman wouldnt mean as much, i mean i know he had a horrible game against miami but thats one game, he still did good against michigan and other top teams, what happened to brady quinn against top teams like michigan and LSU


You seriously want that guy? He's horriable. I would rather want us to go after Chris Leak, and i've always bashed the guy until now. Did you even watch the National Championship? What the hell were his stats? It's obvious from that performance that I'd rather us draft Chris Leak in the 4th or 5th round than waste a pick on Troy Smith in the 2nd round.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 10:16 PM

So who would you guys rather have Carriker or Moss? or another DE

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 10:25 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 27 2007, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So who would you guys rather have Carriker or Moss? or another DE


Well...in our defense they have different positions...

Carriker would be a DE...

And Moss would be an OLB...


So...I can't really answer the question...but I would have led towards Moss before the Senior Bowl...but he looked really good in practice. I didn't see the game itself...how did he do there? Anyone?
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 10:38 PM

I would love to get Moss, Carriker and Beekman. If we did, that be a amazing draft in my eyes! I really like Beekman, I think that he is going to be a above average starter. Carriker is a monster! After watching him today, I really want to see this guy be our 1st round pick. I doubt he falls to us, the guy couldnt be blocked today. He is just so big and athletic, he has to be our 1st round pick if hes available.
If not and Moss is there, then we take him.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 11:36 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 28 2007, 04:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would love to get Moss, Carriker and Beekman. If we did, that be a amazing draft in my eyes! I really like Beekman, I think that he is going to be a above average starter. Carriker is a monster! After watching him today, I really want to see this guy be our 1st round pick. I doubt he falls to us, the guy couldnt be blocked today. He is just so big and athletic, he has to be our 1st round pick if hes available.
If not and Moss is there, then we take him.


Carriker and Moss could potentially both be gone before we pick, we're could be able to get a combination of Carriker and Woodley or Moss and Bemane if we're lucky and possibly Beekman as well. Right now I'd take Moss over Carriker as we need a pass rush threat on the opposite side of Thomas which will help the secondary out as the QB will be under less pressure. The NE showed that we need to put more pressure on the opposing QB as even when we rushed 6 men NE were able to pick the blitz up and give Brady time. With Moss it would give us a solid speed threat on the outside who could push Hobson to where he is best suited, as an inside LBer.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 11:51 AM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 28 2007, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Carriker and Moss could potentially both be gone before we pick, we're could be able to get a combination of Carriker and Woodley or Moss and Bemane if we're lucky and possibly Beekman as well. Right now I'd take Moss over Carriker as we need a pass rush threat on the opposite side of Thomas which will help the secondary out as the QB will be under less pressure. The NE showed that we need to put more pressure on the opposing QB as even when we rushed 6 men NE were able to pick the blitz up and give Brady time. With Moss it would give us a solid speed threat on the outside who could push Hobson to where he is best suited, as an inside LBer.




carriker could help us play the run and get at the qb without blitzing....yeah he would eat up blocker, btu u dont see seymor only eating up blockers do you?

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