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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 28 2007, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Once again...consider it done...

I'm not really attacking Jersey...it's just the prime example...what does Jersey have to offer? And don't say beaches because a lot of places have beaches...and it isn't like the Jersey Shore crystal clear water either...

I'm gonna do a quick comparison between what New York City offers you...and what a place like New Jersey offers you...pick which one you'd rather go visit...

Dining

Jersey



NYC



Shopping

Jersey



NYC



Parks

Jersey


I admittedly couldn't find much on parks in New Jersey...other than going into the mountains...which are beautiful...but I'm talking about a park...not a mountain.

NYC



Homes

Jersey



NYC




Jersey

Drawing a blank here...

NYC



New Jersey



New York City



That last one was pretty telling...again this isn't solely an attack on Jersey...you can plug in most places for Jersey and get the same thing. I'm just an advocate of city life...and that doesn't mean it has to be on a NYC scale...smaller towns work fine too.

How many times did you pick the Jersey option? We can go on forever comparing the two...bars...nightclubs...theatre's. But really...there is no comparison...nothing comes close...


Yea it donest come close crazy.gif thats why 90% of the poeple actually LIVE in Jersey and commute to NY. Jersey has more parks, not just one. Jersey has more places to do sports, live, run. Jersey has more property to live on and actual Houses not crampt apartments.

Jersey doesnt have the noise or inconvineint traffic NY has unless its rush hour cus all the NY guys have to go to and fromn there.

New York City NEVA impressed me. Ive been there a bunch of times usually to see sporting events and i can do without. Its overprised shopping, eating and living. I mean comon, i have guys that i go to football camps with that are from new york and tell me how they have to pay $20 or more jsut for a movie tickes. TO SEE A MOVIE! comon. NY is just an overpriced rip off.

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 04:45 PM

you cant google a place and know about it





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Posted 28 January 2007 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (EnRiCH13 @ Jan 28 2007, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you cant google a place and know about it

Eevry single piece of school work I have ever done begs to differ, but I agree anyways

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"And once again, the meow became a roar"


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Posted 28 January 2007 - 05:00 PM

QUOTE (BESTHANDS8381 @ Jan 28 2007, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea it donest come close crazy.gif thats why 90% of the poeple actually LIVE in Jersey and commute to NY. Jersey has more parks, not just one. Jersey has more places to do sports, live, run. Jersey has more property to live on and actual Houses not crampt apartments.

Jersey doesnt have the noise or inconvineint traffic NY has unless its rush hour cus all the NY guys have to go to and fromn there.

New York City NEVA impressed me. Ive been there a bunch of times usually to see sporting events and i can do without. Its overprised shopping, eating and living. I mean comon, i have guys that i go to football camps with that are from new york and tell me how they have to pay $20 or more jsut for a movie tickes. TO SEE A MOVIE! comon. NY is just an overpriced rip off.


You get what you pay for...

You can have your suburban house with your big lot. Do you know how much money you spend on gas? I think it is estimated an average suburban person spends $8,000 a year on gas. So figure a couple spends maybe $14,000...and a nuclear family spends $20,000 a year on gas. So I'll take my $20,000 a year and I'll go buy my $20 movie ticket...and eat my expensive meals (incredibely tasteful meals)...and do all those fun, expensive things a city offers me day in and day out.

And 90%...seriously...90% what? 90% of the people who work in the city live in Jersey...what? 90% what? Sounds like really well reasearched, insightful numbers there. It's a natural cycle of life. Studies have shown (I'm sorry I can't produce any proof of the studies...I just remember hearing this) that, in general, families are moving back to cities. The post-war trend was to move out of the cities...because that was what you did. To that generation, success meant getting your carbon copy suburban home, and a Home Depot in your town. But the younger generations are realizing that leaves them with no identity and no culture...so they are moving back into the cities.

Now city life isn't for everyone...and that's OK. I think living in the country can be beautiful. In the mountains or on the coast...in unspoiled nature. That's great. But not suburbs...that isn't nature. The suburbs...to me...take the worst parts of city life and country life...and combine them into one. You get the ugly man made structures, pollution, and traffic of city life...and the far distances to everything, and lack of cultural activities found in the country...all right here in our very own suburbs!!! Yippee!

So you take your big 'ol house...I'll live in a "cramped" apartment in the city...and I'll walk downstairs from my apartment in the evening and sit down at a cafe and get some coffee...I'll go for runs in Central Park on the weekends...I'll walk a couple blocks to the bar and enjoy some drinks with friends...I'll hope on the Subway and go uptown to sit in the Cloisters and relax...I'll head over to Restaurant Row and eat at some of the finest restaurants in the world...I'll do a million different things...and each one will have their own character...unlike the Paramus Mall...
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 05:09 PM

Its gotten to the point where everything you say is blah blah blah blahblah. You criticize him for his research when your primary source for ifo is typing 'New Jersey" into the google image engine and taking what you can from there. Thats like a retard criticizing a paralyzed person for not being able to walk

Living in NJ gives you the oppurtunity to take advatage of the entertainment and other qualities and mix them with the living and family qualities (among other things) of New Jersey.

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (ganggreen_ewok @ Jan 28 2007, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its gotten to the point where everything you say is blah blah blah blahblah. You criticize him for his research when your primary source for ifo is typing 'New Jersey" into the google image engine and taking what you can from there. Thats like a retard criticizing a paralyzed person for not being able to walk

Living in NJ gives you the oppurtunity to take advatage of the entertainment and other qualities and mix them with the living and family qualities (among other things) of New Jersey.


I have yet to see countering anything...what is so good about Jersey? Your car? It's a personal opinion of mine that you can't take true advantage of the "entertainment and other qualities" of the city when it is an event to do it. When you have to drive 45 minutes...find a place to park...overpay for parking...walk around for a bit...and than hurry back to the car becaus you're tired from all the hustling around...

I also don't understand the family qualities of New Jersey? How is it any different? Are you saying it's better that your kid can't walk anywhere? Is it better that if he or she wants to go out with their friends you have to drive them to the mall or where ever? Is it better that your children become fat slobs because they don't walk anywhere?

A few years back Detroit was found to be the most obese of the major cities in America...when the mayor of Detroit was asked why he thought that may be...he responded by saying it was, "probably because we drive everywhere."

The healthiest cities in the world are repeadetly reported to be places such as San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington DC. This has to do with those places being easily walkable cities. The least healthiest are usually cities such as San Antonio, Orlando, and Detroit. All very car-dominated cities.

If all you are seeing is blah blah blah blah...than stop waisting your time and don't read it...truth hurts...
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 05:30 PM

your so ignorant and misinformed

notice non of these "healthy cities" had the name new york?
and these so called "least healthiest cities" were in the state of new jersey?
you may be stating your "opinion"
but in as malicious a way as you can get

instead of saying new york is a nice place you must try to find negative in new jersey
then you try to attack that new jersey children are fat slobs?
this as your sitting at home on your computer?
why dont you take your ignorant ass away from the computer and go take a hike





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Posted 28 January 2007 - 05:32 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 28 2007, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have yet to see countering anything...what is so good about Jersey? Your car? It's a personal opinion of mine that you can't take true advantage of the "entertainment and other qualities" of the city when it is an event to do it. When you have to drive 45 minutes...find a place to park...overpay for parking...walk around for a bit...and than hurry back to the car becaus you're tired from all the hustling around...

I also don't understand the family qualities of New Jersey? How is it any different? Are you saying it's better that your kid can't walk anywhere? Is it better that if he or she wants to go out with their friends you have to drive them to the mall or where ever? Is it better that your children become fat slobs because they don't walk anywhere?

A few years back Detroit was found to be the most obese of the major cities in America...when the mayor of Detroit was asked why he thought that may be...he responded by saying it was, "probably because we drive everywhere."

The healthiest cities in the world are repeadetly reported to be places such as San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington DC. This has to do with those places being easily walkable cities. The least healthiest are usually cities such as San Antonio, Orlando, and Detroit. All very car-dominated cities.

If all you are seeing is blah blah blah blah...than stop waisting your time and don't read it...truth hurts...

hoss, ever been to Cape May or anywhere at the Jersey Shore for that matter?

Also, remember that you live in Florida prob havent seen much of Jersey..you have such an ignorant view its rediculous...."kid cant walk anywhere"????? that right there shows you've only been to some "suburban" parts of Jersey..you've obviously never been to the coastal towns where you are in walking distance to every where...everything revolves around the "Main Street" in the middle of the town and then the beach is a block or two away with clubs and restaurants all over the place right on the boardwalk hoss...
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (EnRiCH13 @ Jan 28 2007, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
your so ignorant and misinformed

notice non of these "healthy cities" had the name new york?
and these so called "least healthiest cities" were in the state of new jersey?
you may be stating your "opinion"
but in as malicious a way as you can get

instead of saying new york is a nice place you must try to find negative in new jersey
then you try to attack that new jersey children are fat slobs?
this as your sitting at home on your computer?
why dont you take your ignorant ass away from the computer and go take a hike


Did I not say you can plug other places in for Jersey...I did say I wasn't specifically taking Jersey. I'm criticizing suburban life...I don't see it as being malicious...and if it was taken that way I apologize...however...you're being pretty malicious yourself.

And how do you know I'm sitting at home...I could be anywhere...as a matter of fact I'm sitting in a courtyard outside at the moment...wireless internet is fun!

As a matter of fact...New York is considered towards the unhealthy end of the "healthiest cities" list. This thread started one way...but to me has just veered off to a debate between suburban and urban life. I apologize if I didn't make that clear enough.

QUOTE (vilmatime51 @ Jan 28 2007, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hoss, ever been to Cape May or anywhere at the Jersey Shore for that matter?

remember that you live in Florida by the way prob havent seen much of Jersey..you have such an ignorant view its rediculous...."kid cant walk anywhere"????? that right there shows you've only been to some "coastal" parts of Jersey..you've obviously never been to the coastal towns where you are in walking distance to every where...everything revolves around the Main Street in the middle of the town and then the beach is a block or two away...


I'm in Florida for another couple of months...I'm from New York...spare me from reminded me of this hell I live in. Florid is a truely scary place...the fields of high rise condo's and gated communities never ends. And I've seen plenty of Jersey. Again...towards the end of my arguments I wasn't even talking about Jersey. However, I have not seen many of the towns you speak of in Jersey. If they truely do revolve around a Main Street with Mixed-use...walkable distances...inter-connected streets...and an absense of cul-de-sacs and gated communities....than that is great. I know in the early development of the state of New Jersey they planned satellite cities and garden cities that operated in ways similiar to small European winery towns and such in the country. This sounds like one of those places...and sounds great. Again...I wasn't dissing all of Jersey for the lats couple of posts...more suburban life...sorr if I used Jersey as my example.

You could easily replace every time I said New Jersey with Long Island if it helps...or even better...Florida...
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (BESTHANDS8381 @ Jan 28 2007, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
iagree.gif Comon everything that people are saying about NJ on here is BS thurs nuthing rong wit it and we arent a province of NY. If u wanna talk about NY so much and how great they are then stay the hell there and dont come down in the summer and cause traffic and ruin the beaches.


If we didn't the state would go broke. What's jersey's annual income off tolls alone from NY into NJ? Jersey will forever be known as the state next to New York.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 08:58 PM

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If we didn't the state would go broke. What's jersey's annual income off tolls alone from NY into NJ? Jersey will forever be known as the state next to New York.

I've never heard New Jersey known as that actually.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 09:38 PM

America's armpit, then?
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 09:41 PM

Try again, this time encorporate 'most beautiful' or 'greatest'

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 09:48 PM

man
i could totally go off on new york and new yorkers
but i wont
im not an asshole and will respect the other respectable members of this site from new york





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Posted 28 January 2007 - 09:54 PM

I like New York, its my second favorite place

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 10:05 PM

nah go for it. i don't see why it's that big of a deal. every state and city seems to have an inferiority complex when it comes to new york. out of state dudes hate us.. boston is tired of living in our shadow. it's kinda cute. but it's really not that serious. it's no one's choice where they're born.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 10:26 PM

QUOTE (Amen @ Jan 28 2007, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nah go for it. i don't see why it's that big of a deal. every state and city seems to have an inferiority complex when it comes to new york. out of state dudes hate us.. boston is tired of living in our shadow. it's kinda cute. but it's really not that serious. it's no one's choice where they're born.

NY is shit compared to LA and Paris.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 10:29 PM

I hate LA it really does suck to me

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"And once again, the meow became a roar"


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Posted 28 January 2007 - 10:31 PM

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I hate LA it really does suck to me

LA is awesome.
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 10:40 PM

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LA is awesome.

Its too hot and deserty and the city is too spread out for me, I do love me some San Diego. Best west coast city for sure

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