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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 30 2007, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea we need a 2 OGs, a RG for next year and a replacement for Kendall since he is old.


I agree we could do with a guard for the future to replace Kendall but RT is more of a need than RG (IMO Moore is better than Clement) and I see RT being fixed in FA. If we see another overhaul of the line I think we may struggle again. Next year a DBrick-Kendall-Mangold-Moore-FA line would be a good one.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 11:23 AM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 30 2007, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree we could do with a guard for the future to replace Kendall but RT is more of a need than RG (IMO Moore is better than Clement) and I see RT being fixed in FA. If we see another overhaul of the line I think we may struggle again. Next year a DBrick-Kendall-Mangold-Moore-FA line would be a good one.


Actually I've read quite a few articles that thought Moore was the weakest link on the line. Either way they are both pedestrian when it comes to lineman. They both could be upgraded.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 30 2007, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually I've read quite a few articles that thought Moore was the weakest link on the line. Either way they are both pedestrian when it comes to lineman. They both could be upgraded.



Moore is horrible. He is slow off the ball and ALWAYS gets flagged for false starts. He makes dumb mistakes that are drive killers. He IMO is the one who needs to be replaced.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:49 PM

Getting Leonard Davis could end up being our best move of the offseason if we can get it done. Nothing like a mammoth run blocking linemen to help the inconsistent running game.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:52 PM

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Getting Leonard Davis could end up being our best move of the offseason if we can get it done. Nothing like a mammoth run blocking linemen to help the inconsistent running game.


Agreed...completely...in fact I think he should be the only "Big Name" Free Agent.

If the Jets choose to go after Samuel or Clements aswell...OK...but if it were just Leonard Davis...we'd be fine.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 02:36 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 30 2007, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed...completely...in fact I think he should be the only "Big Name" Free Agent.

If the Jets choose to go after Samuel or Clements aswell...OK...but if it were just Leonard Davis...we'd be fine.



Get Davis....add in beekman as RG for now....add in a LG next year and we are set with one of the best olines in the league for years..

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 02:39 PM

QUOTE (reg83ny @ Jan 28 2007, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We've talked about this a million times. No he's not a featured back. He's not an every down back. If he was we would not be talking about trading or drafting a RB. He's a Dave Meggett type RB. A third down specialists. That's all.

Hold up a minute. When the Eagles lost Staley, even though they had Westbrook, they still were dying to draft a big time back. Now look. Westbrook became a stud. Theres no reason Washington cant become what Westbrook is.
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Posted 05 February 2007 - 03:38 PM

I don't think you draft a running back in the first round. There is too much quality in the rounds after that so you shouldn't have to spend an early pick for one. The only way I see doing that is if it's a guy like Peterson or if you're a team like the colts were last year and that is all you need. But if you honestly take a look at the Jets I see two glaring needs before RB, secondary and a pass receiving TE. Maybe picking up a guy like Dominic Rhodes to split time with Washington might be a good idea. Although there is a guy that i might go after if he's available when we pick in the first round and that's Marshawn Lynch. Still i'm a little tentative to make that selection.
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Posted 05 February 2007 - 04:00 PM

QUOTE (choon328 @ Feb 5 2007, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think you draft a running back in the first round. There is too much quality in the rounds after that so you shouldn't have to spend an early pick for one. The only way I see doing that is if it's a guy like Peterson or if you're a team like the colts were last year and that is all you need. But if you honestly take a look at the Jets I see two glaring needs before RB, secondary and a pass receiving TE. Maybe picking up a guy like Dominic Rhodes to split time with Washington might be a good idea. Although there is a guy that i might go after if he's available when we pick in the first round and that's Marshawn Lynch. Still i'm a little tentative to make that selection.



SECONDARY AND PASST CATCHING TE...OUR GLARING NEEDS?!?!?! common...a better pass receiving TE would be nice but baker is underutilized and we dont really know what he can do yet, but the potential is there...either way i wouldnt call it a "glaring need". Also, as far as secondary goes...we have dyson and rhodes both solid...and i STILL say we have to be patient with miller...this guy has ALL the tools and im hoping coleman or smith step up at the other safety this year. Again, a corner opposite dyson is a need but....we need d-linemen bad. we need an true 3/4 OLB to play opposite thomas. we need a new right side to our oline, and we also need a true fullback.

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 04:15 PM

DE is the highest priority which is why if the Jets have to they will trade up to take Adam Carriker.
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