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Kerry Rhodes Vs Bob Sanders

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:26 PM

Both in my opinion are very good at the FS position. They both are young. And speedy ball hawks. In that case would you rather have Bob or Kerry. Me as most of us i assume would chose Rhodes but maybe some think Sanders is better. It would be cool if we could have Sanders and Rhodes and maybe trade Coleman.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:35 PM

I would rather have Rhodes, because Sanders is injury prone. And Rhodes is better in coverage and a better blitzer. He gets off the edge faster then Sanders for the sacks. Rhodes is more complete, while Sanders is more of a hard hitting run stuffer. Rhodes is taller also, and can stop the taller WRs and TEs.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 29 2007, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would rather have Rhodes, because Sanders is injury prone. And Rhodes is better in coverage and a better blitzer. He gets off the edge faster then Sanders for the sacks. Rhodes is more complete, while Sanders is more of a hard hitting run stuffer. Rhodes is taller also, and can stop the taller WRs and TEs.



i couldnt have said it any better!
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:41 PM

I actually think Rhodes has much better instincts and is a surer tackler than Sanders. Rhodes is bigger and stronger and seems to have more field presence than Sanders. I'll take Rhodes anyday, and I'm not just saying that because I;m a Jets fan

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:42 PM

Rhodes is defintely the next super star at safety.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:48 PM

it depends what safety position...as a free safety i would love sanders. he immediately makes your run defense good, even if u dont start with much. as a strong safety, definitly rhodes, he's much beter at controlling the whole field, not just the running game, and he gets around faster. he can be deep in coverage and just get to where the ball is

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:48 PM

sanders does a lot of nice things and he has been a stud for the colts since he came back and might, singlehandedly, be the reason they are in the superbowl.....BUT....the way we use rhodes and will continue to use him i would never trade....i still think mangini has some wrinkles for how to use rhodes now that he has a little more experience and field presence....cant wait to see him next year!!!

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 29 2007, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it depends what safety position...as a free safety i would love sanders. he immediately makes your run defense good, even if u dont start with much. as a strong safety, definitly rhodes, he's much beter at controlling the whole field, not just the running game, and he gets around faster. he can be deep in coverage and just get to where the ball is



I was under the impression, or this is how it was in high school, that FS was a roamer and more pass coverage and last man back position where as SS was first to act in the middle and TE middle routes and what not.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 29 2007, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sanders does a lot of nice things and he has been a stud for the colts since he came back and might, singlehandedly, be the reason they are in the superbowl.....BUT....the way we use rhodes and will continue to use him i would never trade....i still think mangini has some wrinkles for how to use rhodes now that he has a little more experience and field presence....cant wait to see him next year!!!

Oh i never talked about trading Rhodes hes one of my favorite players. I talked about trading Coleman. It'll be 10 years b4 Mangini gets wrinkles lmao i was just doing some dreaming of having both of the as our safteys

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:06 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 29 2007, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh i never talked about trading Rhodes hes one of my favorite players. I talked about trading Coleman. It'll be 10 years b4 Mangini gets wrinkles lmao i was just doing some dreaming of having both of the as our safteys




NO NO NO....i didnt mean "trade" him like trade the colts rhodes for sanders.....i just meant i wouldnt trade off rhodes for sanders since the question...i thought....was who we like better...

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE (ganggreen_ewok @ Jan 29 2007, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually think Rhodes has much better instincts and is a surer tackler than Sanders. Rhodes is bigger and stronger and seems to have more field presence than Sanders. I'll take Rhodes anyday, and I'm not just saying that because I;m a Jets fan


That's most important to me. Sanders, like a lot of DBs, misses a lot of tackles going for the huge hit that will get him on "Jacked Up." Rhodes is a really impressive tackler.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (Dave @ Jan 29 2007, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's most important to me. Sanders, like a lot of DBs, misses a lot of tackles going for the huge hit that will get him on "Jacked Up." Rhodes is a really impressive tackler.

And its not like he can't step back and plant someone. Ask Maroney if Rhodes is a hard hitter

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE (ganggreen_ewok @ Jan 29 2007, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was under the impression, or this is how it was in high school, that FS was a roamer and more pass coverage and last man back position where as SS was first to act in the middle and TE middle routes and what not.

the strong safety plays to the strength of the offensive formation, which is almost always where they have more recievers. this puts them into more of a coverage role while the free safety is "free" to play in run support

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:11 PM

Sanders is not the playmaker Rhodes is, statistically there was no better playmaking safety in the league this year than Rhodes. Kerry is the easy choice for me, with honestly no homerism.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 29 2007, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the strong safety plays to the strength of the offensive formation, which is almost always where they have more recievers. this puts them into more of a coverage role while the free safety is "free" to play in run support


Then why is certain sub-sets does the SS line up closer to the line of scrimmage, or in front of the FS before the snap? I played Safety in high school and I roamed whil the other safety was run and linebacker support, he was SS on the Depth chart.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:36 PM

im familiar with the defense i played in high school. also if you look at guys like sanders, lynch and taylor, theyre bigger hitters that play FS

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:37 PM

I think they are both amazing safeties, Bob Sanders is one of the most instinctive safeties I've seen in awhile and when he plays in the box he makes plays. Kerry Rhodes is a do it all safety he can blitz, drop back into coverage, and come up on the line when needed. I can't choose between the two.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:01 AM

It's funny. I remember being one of the only guys on this site that liked Rhodes over Maddox when we drafted them both. And don't lie fellas, I know who you are.... I think anyway.

Funny that the only knock on the guy was that he wasn't physical enough. People over analyze the players way too much prior to the draft and I think Kerry Rhodes is a prime example of that. Now which one is better.... I'll tell you it's hard to say considering they both play so differently. Sanders is a pro bowl safety who runs faster than Deangelo Hall... that's nice. However, I like Rhodes and I like how the Jets use them.

However I find it nearly impossible and pointless to try and say who's better. It depends on the team at the end of the day and Bob Sanders has his team in the Superbowl because he's a great player and contributes HEAVILY to that defense. Kerry Rhodes played great this season, he disappeared a few games this year but all in all he was the best Safety in the league. This is like comparing apples to oranges. They both taste good, it's just a matter of preference. I love Kerry Rhodes but I think Bob Sanders might be better right now.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 04:39 AM

I'd take Rhodes over Sanders. I happen to like Sanders alot but I think Rhodes has a better skill set. Sanders is known for his dominance on the run. Rhodes does it all. He gets picks,blitzes,mans up 1 one 1 and is very good on run support. I think Kerry is the better safety at this point. Not to mention Kerry has started all 32 games and Bob has been injury prone.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 10:45 AM

the only thing that i can say about bob sanders that's better than rhodes is his tackling, not to say rhodes can't tackle in fact he can BUT sanders have been known to stop big guys on the spot but rhode's much better in every other catagory and he's taller
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