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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Bill Belichick Proof of what kind of person he is, not just an opinion!

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 11:16 AM

NEW YORK - Former New England Patriots linebacker Ted Johnson said coach Bill Belichick subjected him to hard hits in practice while he was recovering from a concussion against the advice of the team's top trainer.



Johnson, who helped the Patriots win three Super Bowl titles before retiring two years ago, told The New York Times that a collision with another player during that 2002 practice led to another concussion. And, after sustaining additional concussions over the next three seasons, he now forgets people's names, misses appointments and suffers from depression and an addiction to amphetamines.

"There's something wrong with me," the 34-year-old Johnson told the Times in a story posted on its Web site Thursday night. "There's something wrong with my brain. And I know when it started."

The Boston Globe, which is owned by the Times, posted a similar story on its Web site.

Johnson, who played 10 years in the NFL, said he began to deteriorate in August 2002 with a concussion during an exhibition game against the New York Giants. He sustained another concussion four days later after Belichick prodded him to participate in a full-contact practice, even though he was supposed to be avoiding hits, Johnson said.

The next month, with their relationship already strained, Johnson confronted Belichick about the practice after the coach asked him to meet in his office.

"I told him, `You played God with my health. You knew I shouldn't have been cleared to play,'" Johnson told the Globe.

Belichick told the Globe he got no cue from Johnson in practice that day that he was hesitant about participating in the full-contact drill.

"If Ted felt so strongly that he didn't feel he was ready to practice with us, he should have told me," Belichick said.

The Patriots did not allow Jim Whalen, still their head trainer, to comment for this story, according to the Globe.

Patriots spokesman Stacey James told The Associated Press on Thursday night that the team was aware of the report but was not prepared to comment.

In a story last month, the Times reported that brain damage caused on the football field ultimately led to the suicide of former NFL defensive back Andre Waters last November, according to a forensic pathologist who studied Waters' brain tissue.

"We have been focused on the issue of concussions for years," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told the AP. "It remains one of our prime concerns as we continue to do everything possible to protect the health of our players."

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is expected to answer questions about the issue at his annual state of the NFL news conference Friday.

Dr. Lee H. Schwamm, the neurologist at Massachusetts General Hospital who examined Johnson, wrote in a memo on Aug. 19, 2002, that Johnson sustained a second concussion in that practice, the Times reported.

Schwamm also wrote that, after speaking with Whalen, that the trainer "was on the sidelines when he sustained the concussion during the game and assessed him frequently at the sideline," and that "he has kept Mr. Johnson out of contact since that time."

Johnson said he spoke with Belichick the next day about the incident, but only briefly, the Times said.

"He was vaguely acknowledging that he was aware of what happened," Johnson said, "and he wanted to just kind of let me know that he knew."

Johnson sat out the next two preseason games on the advice of his neurologist, but played in the final one. Then, thinking he was still going to be left off the active roster for the season opener against Pittsburgh, he angrily left camp for two days before returning and meeting with Belichick.

"It's as clear as a bell, 'I had to see if you could play,'" Johnson recalled Belichick saying, according to the Times.

Moments later, Johnson said, Belichick admitted he had made a mistake by subjecting him to a full-contact drill.

"It was a real kind of admittance, but it was only him and I in the room," Johnson told the Times.

After returning to game action, the linebacker sustained more concussions of varying severity over the following three seasons, each of them exacerbating the next, according to his current neurologist, Dr. Robert Cantu.

Cantu told the Times he was certain that Johnson's problems "are related to his previous head injuries, as they are all rather classic postconcussion symptoms."

He added, "They are most likely permanent."

Cantu, the chief of neurosurgery and director of sports medicine at Emerson Hospital in Concord, Mass., also said Johnson shows signs of early Alzheimer's disease.

"The majority of those symptoms relentlessly progress over time," Cantu said. "It could be that at the time he's in his 50s, he could have severe Alzheimer's symptoms."

Johnson told the Globe he estimates he had at least six concussions in his last three seasons, but reported only one because he already had a reputation as an injury-prone player and he didn't want to make it worse.

"Looking back, it was stupid not to tell anyone," Johnson said. "But I didn't know then that every time you have a concussion, you are four to six times more susceptible the next time. I had no idea the damage I was causing myself."

Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFL Players Association, spoke in general terms about concussions at a news conference Thursday in Miami, where the Super Bowl will be played Sunday.

"If a coach or anyone else is saying, 'You don't have a concussion, you get back in there,' you don't have to go, and you shouldn't go," Upshaw said, not speaking about Johnson's case specifically. "You know how you feel. That's what we tried to do throughout the years, is take the coach out of the decision-making. It's the medical people that have to decide."

Upshaw told the AP that concussions are one of the issues the union is examining this year.

"We've seen a number of concussions in the NFL this year, and as a result of our studies, we've seen a change in the helmet. We're also studying the effects of that on concussions," Upshaw said.
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"Boomer? Is that you?" she asked the Good Samaritan, sounding disoriented. "I think I'm OK, but . ... "
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 12:12 PM

i see where the patriots are a completely moral-less franchise, especially by not allowing the tainer to talk, but johnson should have known better. yes i know hes bound to a contact and all, but six concussions in 2 years.... but i guess you could say that the patriots took advantage of johnson as his health deteriorated.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 12:52 PM

Wow, that's terrible for Johnson, I hope he gets better. But that goes again to show what an ass Belibitch is. The media is finally opening its eyes.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 01:52 PM

Johnson was also on steroids. Even the pats fans here in Boston admits to that. No way someone's neck could get this big and veins popping out of it. Bellichump + steroids = Depression.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 01:54 PM

It was dumb of Johnson not to report those other concussions, but it sounds like he was scared/presssured into it by Belichick. You can understand him wanting to keep his job, and when a coach basically calls you a pu$$y for not takin part in a full-contact drill, you wanna prove him wrong. Belichick should've known better than to risk a man (not just a player!) so soon after a head injury...what a d*ckhole...
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE (green_blood @ Feb 2 2007, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i see where the patriots are a completely moral-less franchise, especially by not allowing the tainer to talk, but johnson should have known better. yes i know hes bound to a contact and all, but six concussions in 2 years.... but i guess you could say that the patriots took advantage of johnson as his health deteriorated.


iagree.gif It was wrong for the Pats to play him through those concussions but if Johnson should have said he shouldn't play to Belichick as that is a heck of a lot of concussions in two years. I feel bad for Johnson but he is partly to blame here for going out and risking his health although it is pretty brave to do what he did. Both sides did the wrong thing here.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 02:34 PM

that just messed up
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 02:39 PM

Despite his limitations, that was one thing I can respect about Herm. Say what you want but he cared about the players health and he wouldn't let Wayne Chrebet continue playing. It really shows the difference between the kind of guy Belichick is and any caring human being. It's quite disturbing actually. Win at all costs.... and this guy is the best "coach" ever? I don't know about that.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Feb 2 2007, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Despite his limitations, that was one thing I can respect about Herm. Say what you want but he cared about the players health and he wouldn't let Wayne Chrebet continue playing. It really shows the difference between the kind of guy Belichick is and any caring human being. It's quite disturbing actually. Win at all costs.... and this guy is the best "coach" ever? I don't know about that.



i dont know we are talking about a 34 year old washed up roid head...im just not sure even belicheck would "force" a guy to practice with concussion status and purposely "ruin his brain and life". I know belicheck is an ass and we all have a vendetta against him for bailin on us after a day and how much he wins, but I dont know that he would put anyone in that position. I mean he seems to be somewhat a family guy celebrating with his fam after games showing he has some feelings and isnt just some goon....i just dont know about this it seems like a little bit of digging deep for a story to me..

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Feb 2 2007, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i dont know we are talking about a 34 year old washed up roid head...im just not sure even belicheck would "force" a guy to practice with concussion status and purposely "ruin his brain and life". I know belicheck is an ass and we all have a vendetta against him for bailin on us after a day and how much he wins, but I dont know that he would put anyone in that position. I mean he seems to be somewhat a family guy celebrating with his fam after games showing he has some feelings and isnt just some goon....i just dont know about this it seems like a little bit of digging deep for a story to me..

The story did say that the Pats were refusing to comment. "No comment" might not necessarily mean that they're hiding anythin but if they were totally innocent they'd probably wanna say somethin in their defence
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 06:24 PM

It is all over sportscenter and the news tonite. The new NFL comish didn't seem like he'll protect Bellchump on this one.
Fifteen years ago after an especially disappointing loss to Miami, Esiason, then the Jets' quarterback, was making the seven-mile drive from the Meadowlands back to Manhattan.
While he was slogging through stop-and-go traffic at the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel, the car next to him was violently rear-ended. The quarterback threw his car into park, hopped out and ran to the woman whose car had been hit. She was wearing, of all things, an Esiason jersey, and was utterly shocked when he tapped on her window to check on her.
"Are you OK?" he said, trying to keep calm. "Are you OK?"
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Feb 2 2007, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Despite his limitations, that was one thing I can respect about Herm. Say what you want but he cared about the players health and he wouldn't let Wayne Chrebet continue playing. It really shows the difference between the kind of guy Belichick is and any caring human being. It's quite disturbing actually. Win at all costs.... and this guy is the best "coach" ever? I don't know about that.



I really want to agree with oyu about Herm .. because as time goes by I have less anger about the way he left and more respect for the way he treated his players

but I can think of 2 names off the top of my head

1 - Curtis .. I knew when Curt was tackled in that miami game that something was terribly wrong .. Herm should have known it and acted on it immediatly .. he didnt and the situation got worse and probably ended Curtis' career .. I know getting Curtis to sit is damned near impossible .. but he was the coach and should have impossed his will .. specially considering the leaky sive(sp?) of an offensive line we had that year

2- Chad .. he also played beyond what his injury should have allowed .. both times leading up to his post season surgery

Herm was/is a good man .. but I dont think he should be in charge of a football team by any means


as for Bellidick .. is ANYBODY really surprised by the amount of an asshole he is at this point?
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (CrazyHorseDave @ Feb 2 2007, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really want to agree with oyu about Herm .. because as time goes by I have less anger about the way he left and more respect for the way he treated his players

but I can think of 2 names off the top of my head

1 - Curtis .. I knew when Curt was tackled in that miami game that something was terribly wrong .. Herm should have known it and acted on it immediatly .. he didnt and the situation got worse and probably ended Curtis' career .. I know getting Curtis to sit is damned near impossible .. but he was the coach and should have impossed his will .. specially considering the leaky sive(sp?) of an offensive line we had that year

2- Chad .. he also played beyond what his injury should have allowed .. both times leading up to his post season surgery

Herm was/is a good man .. but I dont think he should be in charge of a football team by any means
as for Bellidick .. is ANYBODY really surprised by the amount of an asshole he is at this point?

I agree with everything you said.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 07:45 PM

It seems that some of that shine is wearing off Bellicheck. All the dumb things he's done seem to be coming out. He's starting to be viewed as a bad guy in some circles. That makes me wonder how long he still has to coach.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE (Fatman @ Feb 2 2007, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It seems that some of that shine is wearing off Bellicheck. All the dumb things he's done seem to be coming out. He's starting to be viewed as a bad guy in some circles. That makes me wonder how long he still has to coach.

I'm beginning to think all the shine are coming off bc of the coaches he lost in the last 2 years. As it go on, you'll be hearing more of his bs coming out. This is the end of a dynasty once you hear about these stuffs.
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 11:58 AM

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 10:53 PM

Don't forget about this latest scandal

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