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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:02 PM

they have us at #5 shear nonsense. that would only be true if Mangini made that a team goal in his game plan.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:17 PM

I think its pretty legit recognition about how good our RB's are now.. considering last year all everyone would talk about is how bad we sucked at running the ball
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:21 PM

Haha, I love how they have Rhodes and Jordan! Either of those backs will have trouble getting 1000 yards in Oakland's offense.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:25 PM

I think the two pictures accurately describe the diffrences in styles between Leon and TJ. If you look at TJ his legs are aligned and it seems as if he's pulling out of cut, where as Leon's legs are bent and far apart like he's making a juke.

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:26 PM

#5 is definitely a fair position IMO as Jones is a workhorse and has been great the past two seasons whilst Washington was extremely impressive this past season for a 4th round pick.

I would have Dunn and Norwood 6 though. Their play is overshadowed by the running skills of Vick but without those two the Falcons offense would go nowhere as Vick hasn't shown he can get it done through the air. I'd have 6, 7, 8 as Dunn and Norwood, Foster and Williams and then Henry and Bell in that order.
There is no doubting #1 though and I see that as being highly successful for years to come until one of them gets tired of having to share the load, which may be a longshot to happen.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:39 PM

I wouldnt count on # 1 being around for too long. Its all about money and cap space and the Saints simply cant afford to pay two RBs starting money each. Remember Deuce has that big contract and Bush has the huge rookie contract. (and it will only go up)
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 01:42 PM

Can't complain. Jones-Drew is a little too high up though.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:23 PM

That picture is tight of Leon Washington. Atleast we are gettin some respect now. The other runningbacks tandems are really good, so we should be glad at being top 5 for right now. Maybe next year we will have the best runningback tandem in the NFL.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Mar 13 2007, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That picture is tight of Leon Washington.


It's just a normal picture dude....OH NO, please don't tell me you have a crush.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 02:55 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Mar 13 2007, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's just a normal picture dude....OH NO, please don't tell me you have a crush.

There isn't enough room in kk's heart to fit both Kobe and Leon

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Mar 13 2007, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's just a normal picture dude....OH NO, please don't tell me you have a crush.

Keep it up and i'm gonna report you to Bluelinecop! crazy.gif
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 03:36 PM

Wheres KC LJ and Micheal Bennett or SD LT and Turner?
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 05:39 PM

You see how in the Saints pic they have both Reggie and Duece out there at once. That what I want the Jets to have both Jones and Leon in the backfield at the same time so they don't know whether they're going to get Leon's speed or Jones' power. I've been hearing a few people say that our back field is kind of like a poor man's Saints backfield with Leon-Reggie and Jones-Duece

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Mar 13 2007, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keep it up and i'm gonna report you to Bluelinecop! crazy.gif


LOL ... I'll file a report. kobeskool asked me if I would go into the "chat room" with him. He intended to abuse me in ways that are illegal in 42 states.

BS16 actually makes a good point about a RB tandem. To me, SD is the best running team in the league. Both those running backs compliment each other very well. Reggie and Duece... I don't think they deserve #1 and I actually, now that I'm thinking about it, think we have a better "running" duo than they do. Reggie Bush doesn't impress me as a RB.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:07 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Mar 13 2007, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been hearing a few people say that our back field is kind of like a poor man's Saints backfield with Leon-Reggie and Jones-Duece


A poor man's Reggie-Duece combo? Now if THAT isn't insulting I don't know what is. First off Leon can actually run the ball 10 times better than Reggie. What does Reggie average, 3.6 a carry? Leon averages 4.3 ... that's a whole lot better than 3.6 I'll tell you that right now. Duece vs Jones? I'll take Jones 10 times out of 10. Duece is fragile and I prefer Jones running style and his monster arms. He breaks tackles and necks with those guns.

Seriously, have you been hearing that because that's gonna really piss me off? It's so retarded it's not even funny. Leon played better than Reggie.

Don't believe me? It's because you're believing the HYPE MACHINE known as Reggie Bush. OVER RATED!
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Bush | 565 | 3.6 Average | 6 TDs | 27 First Downs | 18 Longest Run
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Receiving Yards:
Bush | 742 Yards | 88 Receptions | 8.4 Yards/Catch | 2 TDs | 74 Longest Catch
Leon | 270 Yards | 25 Receptions | 10.8 Yards/Catch | 0 TDs | 64 Longest Catch


Reggie Bush touched the ball 68 times more than Leon did. Look at the difference. Mostly those touches were in receptions. Can you imagine if we threw Leon 63 more screen passes? Get outta here! Poor man's huh? Why, because he was a 4th round pick and had ZERO hype? Maybe that's what it is. FRB! [ F*ck Reggie Bush ]

Leon isn't a poor mans Reggie, he's better and I honestly believe that which is why I was a little bit upset with the Thomas Jones acquisition. I'm pretty sure that Thomas Jones is better than Duece. DM is good, I'm not saying he sucks. But he's not better than TJ. I'm really pissed off that you're hearing that. Damn your ears biggrin.gif.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:24 PM

That list is bullshit. LT and Michael Turner aren't even on there.
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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Mar 13 2007, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A poor man's Reggie-Duece combo? Now if THAT isn't insulting I don't know what is. First off Leon can actually run the ball 10 times better than Reggie. What does Reggie average, 3.6 a carry? Leon averages 4.3 ... that's a whole lot better than 3.6 I'll tell you that right now. Duece vs Jones? I'll take Jones 10 times out of 10. Duece is fragile and I prefer Jones running style and his monster arms. He breaks tackles and necks with those guns.

Seriously, have you been hearing that because that's gonna really piss me off? It's so retarded it's not even funny. Leon played better than Reggie.

Don't believe me? It's because you're believing the HYPE MACHINE known as Reggie Bush. OVER RATED!
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Bush | 565 | 3.6 Average | 6 TDs | 27 First Downs | 18 Longest Run
Leon | 650 | 4.3 Average | 4 TDs | 33 First Downs | 23 Longest Run

Receiving Yards:
Bush | 742 Yards | 88 Receptions | 8.4 Yards/Catch | 2 TDs | 74 Longest Catch
Leon | 270 Yards | 25 Receptions | 10.8 Yards/Catch | 0 TDs | 64 Longest Catch
Reggie Bush touched the ball 68 times more than Leon did. Look at the difference. Mostly those touches were in receptions. Can you imagine if we threw Leon 63 more screen passes? Get outta here! Poor man's huh? Why, because he was a 4th round pick and had ZERO hype? Maybe that's what it is. FRB! [ F*ck Reggie Bush ]

Leon isn't a poor mans Reggie, he's better and I honestly believe that which is why I was a little bit upset with the Thomas Jones acquisition. I'm pretty sure that Thomas Jones is better than Duece. DM is good, I'm not saying he sucks. But he's not better than TJ. I'm really pissed off that you're hearing that. Damn your ears biggrin.gif.

I agree the only reason Bush and Deuce are number one is because they are more popular then T Jones and Leon. The list should've been Michael Turner and LT at number one, at number 2 we should've been there. At number 3 i should've been Michael Bennett, Priest Holmes and LJ, Number 4 should be Deuce and Reggie Bush. The last one should be the Jones Drew and Fred Taylor.


QUOTE (jets0n @ Mar 13 2007, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL ... I'll file a report. kobeskool asked me if I would go into the "chat room" with him. He intended to abuse me in ways that are illegal in 42 states.

BS16 actually makes a good point about a RB tandem. To me, SD is the best running team in the league. Both those running backs compliment each other very well. Reggie and Duece... I don't think they deserve #1 and I actually, now that I'm thinking about it, think we have a better "running" duo than they do. Reggie Bush doesn't impress me as a RB.

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:31 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Mar 13 2007, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That list is bullshit. LT and Michael Turner aren't even on there.

I think that's because LT and Turner aren't really a tandem. When one player touches the ball 5 times a game and the other gets thirty its not really a tandem. All those listed are/will split the carries 50/50 or 60/40 i.e. TJ and Leon. Also why Johnson and Bennett aren't on there or even McGahee/Anderson

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Posted 13 March 2007 - 06:50 PM

QUOTE (ganggreen_ewok @ Mar 13 2007, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that's because LT and Turner aren't really a tandem.


BINGO! they don't schematically run them. Turner gives L.T a breather here and there their not a tandem.
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