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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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The Official STFU About the Pats Thread! ... And Brady vs Manning

#61 User is offline   ozjet51 Icon

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 07:08 PM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Mar 15 2007, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, but there is something that the stats and things don't show. And that is how Brady is clutch and brings his teams from behind so many times in last minute drives to win. and Peyton has yet to do that.


only thing really is brady has done it in the superbowl, when factors out of their control have swung their way (kasay kicking out of bounds etc). And peyton manning has never led his team from behind?? A you nuts? remember the tampa game a few years ago?? remember the AFC conference game a couple of months ago??? remember the jets game last year?? Peyton is a freak on the field and brady is only comparable cos his team, not brady have won more superbowls, the fact is noone compares to peyton

scores at halftime: golden boy brady: 21
peyton: 6
scores at 1.40 left: golden boy brady: 34
peyton:31

peyton is just as,if not, he is more deadly with the ball left with under two minutes as brady.
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 07:31 PM

QUOTE (ozjet51 @ Mar 14 2007, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
only thing really is brady has done it in the superbowl, when factors out of their control have swung their way (kasay kicking out of bounds etc). And peyton manning has never led his team from behind?? A you nuts? remember the tampa game a few years ago?? remember the AFC conference game a couple of months ago??? remember the jets game last year?? Peyton is a freak on the field and brady is only comparable cos his team, not brady have won more superbowls, the fact is noone compares to peyton

scores at halftime: golden boy brady: 21
peyton: 6
scores at 1.40 left: golden boy brady: 34
peyton:31

peyton is just as,if not, he is more deadly with the ball left with under two minutes as brady.



I said in BIG GAMES. peyton has not been great in the playoffs. period. I never said he hasn't come from behind or made game winning drives. Brady has been great in the playoffs. period.
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 07:48 PM

yeah but the argument is who is the better QB, you cant leave out regular season games all together
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:28 PM

QUOTE (ozjet51 @ Mar 14 2007, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah but the argument is who is the better QB, you cant leave out regular season games all together



of course, but the post season is much more important than regular season games. And brady has been good in regular season games. Definitely not as good as manning by any means, but he's been very good still.

but when its clutch time in the playoffs, Brady has been really good, while peyton has not.

so when choosing a QB i'd take a person who will take me to the playoffs(not as dominate as peyton but he almost always gets there) and has been clutch there, then a QB who has been AMAZING int he preseason but unspectacular in post season.

do you kind of see why i say that?
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Posted 14 March 2007 - 11:32 PM

WRONG! Peyton Manning is clutch. He lead his team back from a certain defeat in the AFC Championship Game against your beloved Brady and he's also been responsible for one of the most amazing comebacks ever. Please stop arguing this triple3s.

You can't say that the AFC Championship game isn't an important game.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 08:30 AM

Give me Brady any day of the week. Now I don't want it to seem like I think Peyton sucks, because I don't, he is obviously a great Qb. But I love how after two pretty good games in the playoffs many people now are all on his nuts. Just look at how awful he was even this year in the playoffs for the first two games. Against the Ravens it really looked like he had money on the game and was trying to lose it. All you guys who are in love with stats or are just happy to try and vault Manning over Brady be my guest, if I had to pick one guy to start an important game, I'd still take Brady hands down.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 08:36 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Mar 15 2007, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WRONG! Peyton Manning is clutch. He lead his team back from a certain defeat in the AFC Championship Game against your beloved Brady and he's also been responsible for one of the most amazing comebacks ever. Please stop arguing this triple3s.

You can't say that the AFC Championship game isn't an important game.



1st off you said you were done. we agreed to disagree. I was answering the other persons stuff.

The AFC championship was a great comback. no one every said it was not an important game. I said that peyton has not been clutch in the playoffs. You are picking one game and looking at it. Throughout his career, he has not been good in the playoffs. Yes that was a good championship game, but that was really his only great game. and he even started out pretty bad in that game. I give him alot of credit for coming back in that game and getting them the win. And he played decent in the other games.

Brady has been good throughout his career in the playoffs, in many games. so that's how I can say he's clutch. If you continue to do it, then I can say you are clutch. But Manning has not continued to do that. In fact before this year he was not good in the playoffs. And this year he wasn't even dominate in the playoffs. he was decent.

If you look at both of there regular seasons, its no contest that Peyton is better. But if you look at the playoff history, Brady is much better. And you don't call someone clutch off of one game. and don't say he dominated throughout the playoffs this year, because we all know he didn't.
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