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SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
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Posted 16 July 2007 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jul 16 2007, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im not saying u cant critisize me, its just that those on this site(besides amen really and sometimes kobeskool) r much harsher with it so i defend myself. and i was talking about dont judge my life, hes saying i dont go through struggle just because im white and from the suburbs

do u mind if i intervene a bit?
i've been pretty quiet in the subject and haven't closed it since there were a few mods in the topickeeping it from getting out of hand (jetson and amen) but i feel like i need to jump in and make some sense of both sides of the argument in words that aren't trashing or shit talking

for people trashing jetman
so what if u think he sucks. just let him be. if he's making music for fun it doesn't mean he has to be good at it. and so he thinks he's good. big deal. i play softball for my company team and i'm a good batter (i'm batting .850 for the season) but a weak fielder (2 errors in 4 games, i admit it) so overall i'm not that good but i still enjoy it and i'm not horrible i am the leading hitter on the team but get stuck in LF all the time where people rarely hit the ball after a bad streak at SS) but yet i'm really good at b-ball and there are people taht play and think there good but they suck and they give this i'm off today excuse shit when there off everyday and refuse to admit they suck. he's 15 wheter u think he's good or not who cares let him have fun. is it really hurting or bothering u that u think he sucks and is making music? there are alot of crappy people making music. just ignore it

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look i'm going to be honost. your words aren't that bad. there also not good and very simplistic but i've seen way worse. i woudln't call them shit but there not as great as u think tehy are. alot of people are bashing u cause u think your tupac or snoop and there mulitplatnum artisits. tupac is the GOAT and even great rappers like jay z who try to be like pac get ripped on cause there not on his level. comparing yourself to tupac is like playing RB and comparing yourself to barry sanders. its an insult and i think u should drop it. every young aspiring rapper wants to be tupac but none of them ever will be. and you'll wind up looking dumb for it. also nobody is saying u ahven't had sruggles cause your white and from the suburbs. everyone has struggles. life isn't easy or meant to be that way. even rich epople have struggles. but your not facing struggles as bad as you make it sound. i've faced quite a few struggles but nowhere as bad as tupac or some of these other people your trying to imitate. u need to be like amen said and be true to yourself. i know the cool thing is to rap about struggles and violence but i'm willing to be you've never even held a real gun yet you talk about shooting people and such and how your a big dog but i doubt your running shit in the streets or seeling millions of record to be called a big dog. its stuff like that that makes people jump on you. also no offense. i'm not trying to shit on you like i said your words aren't half bad although they are simplistic and nothing special, your rapping skills are just horrible. u give an excuse of reading off paper but if you took your music seriously you'd memorize it 1st then record it so it was smooth. and u talk about spiiting of the top of your brian but your readin that off paper? that doens't make sense. also u show no breath control, your have no flow, your never on beat, and you just don't have the voice for it. poeple like fabolous and jadakiss and jayy z have excellent flo, people like canibus have good flow, great breah control and excellent lyrics. plus they all have the voice for it. your trying to have a snoop like laid back sound but you don't have the vocie or breath control or other things listed. look i'm good at b-ball but i know i can never go pro. why? cause i'm 5-4. know your limitations! i will never ever dunk a basketball unless its on a fisher price net lol and i can accept that. it doens't mean i can't enjoy the game it just means i'll never be that good. you have to realize u can do it for fun but it doens't mean your good at it. you have to accpet that you just don't have the ability. maybe you should take some audio classes in high school and maybe some poetry classes to increase your skill. you could also take signing lessons to increas your voice and breath control (if u take your music seriously) and maybe you'll be able to put together somehitng that sounds good. but your not a natural at it. u have the tools 9a mic, paper, pen etc.) but it doens't make u tupac. i have a saying about things like this. i always say you can give a guy a bat and ball and a glove but it doens't make him barry bonds.
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Posted 16 July 2007 - 05:23 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jul 16 2007, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i always say you can give a guy a bat and ball and a glove but it doens't make him barry bonds.


That's because you didn't pump him full of steroids biggrin.gif

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 05:24 PM

The idea behind "prove that your better" isn't applicable when you're talking to someone who's just a fan, and is comfortable with being JUST a fan. And that's what I mentioned in the last post with there not being any fans anymore. No one wants to just say, "Damn, that's a dope MC! I'm gonna listen to their music religiously." People wanna say, "That guy's good... but buy my CD!" How would a director of a movie you didn't like look if they said, "If you don't like it, make a better movie!" You can't, right? You don't have a camera, the lights, the script, the cast, etc... Unfortunately, the problem with rap is that it looks easy enough. The random success stories are heard often enough for people to think they can do it, too. I don't need to be Martin Scorsese to say that Spiderman 3 was a shitty movie, just as people that post here don't need to be Jay-Z to say that they don't like what you do.

As far as referencing the love you receive on other message boards -- the online hip hop community is a funny one. You show someone love, they'll show what you do love. And if you don't show them love first, they'll show it to you so that way they can get fake respect when they post their work up. How quick would you be to tell someone, "nice verse" if they just tore into you in the post you made with your verse? It's not real. And usually, instead of being blatantly hateful, they'll say things like "Keep working at it" or "you got potential" because no one wants to really be confronted about something they're passionate about.
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Posted 16 July 2007 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (Amen @ Jul 16 2007, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The idea behind "prove that your better" isn't applicable when you're talking to someone who's just a fan, and is comfortable with being JUST a fan. And that's what I mentioned in the last post with there not being any fans anymore. No one wants to just say, "Damn, that's a dope MC! I'm gonna listen to their music religiously." People wanna say, "That guy's good... but buy my CD!" How would a director of a movie you didn't like look if they said, "If you don't like it, make a better movie!" You can't, right? You don't have a camera, the lights, the script, the cast, etc... Unfortunately, the problem with rap is that it looks easy enough. The random success stories are heard often enough for people to think they can do it, too. I don't need to be Martin Scorsese to say that Spiderman 3 was a shitty movie, just as people that post here don't need to be Jay-Z to say that they don't like what you do.

As far as referencing the love you receive on other message boards -- the online hip hop community is a funny one. You show someone love, they'll show what you do love. And if you don't show them love first, they'll show it to you so that way they can get fake respect when they post their work up. How quick would you be to tell someone, "nice verse" if they just tore into you in the post you made with your verse? It's not real. And usually, instead of being blatantly hateful, they'll say things like "Keep working at it" or "you got potential" because no one wants to really be confronted about something they're passionate about.


You are so fvckin' on point sometimes it's scary!.. good post.

Don't go looking for respect online. Go to you're local underground spots take part in a few battles, make some jump offs and make people hear you're stuff. More then likely in the hip hop community if you're nice you're nice and people will tell you so (this is in person mind you) but if you're trash prepare to get shook and have you're ego and feelings ripped to sheds.
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Posted 16 July 2007 - 09:50 PM

first off, yes i was off on the white tupac line and i didnt really mean it but i never honestly meant i was anywhere near tupac or snoop or any of those ppl. i know theres allot of ppl who arent known who r better then me but i believe some of hte hate on here i dont deserve thats my point. second off, i wasnt trying to get respect online, i was just trying to prove these guys wrong and trying to show them i dont suck. and i already do do all that shit s-dubb mentioned, i do rap locally and all that and all of them like it, ive been saying that all the way through and all ewok and all them say is 'oh so ur little friends and fellow wegroes like ur music so what'. ive started to become friends with ppl or better friends with some ppl BECAUSE OF MY RAPPING. also idk y ewok is still under the impression that its impossible that a black person could ever like my music but w/e. and the rap forums i have posted on, most of them think im solid so, i know it may had came off as i was saying i was the shit but i was just trying to show that i can hold my own, when ewok and the rest wre just trashing on me. and about the voice thing, i record with a comp mic but studio shit can make ur voice sound allot better. dont get the wrong thing from that tho, its not like i was implying im gonna go pro or any of that shit, and i never said here i believe i could go pro, i mgiht had said some ppl have said i could go pro but when ppl say that to me i usually just say something like idk or something like that.
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Posted 16 July 2007 - 10:27 PM

I think your flow is horrible, your lyrics aren't that bad so when I read them I am like ok this kid is alright, but when I actually heard you it was laughable. This is the first time I have replyed on this topic and since I am drunk I think it was about time. I have a 3 inch dick and I made a porno and sold 13 videos, does that make me a pornstar? I diddnt think so, stay in school buddy!
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Posted 16 July 2007 - 10:33 PM

for the idk how many times i never said i was gonna get signed or any of that shit, and im far from quitting school to pursue shit im not even having as a goal as my career.
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Posted 17 July 2007 - 02:15 PM

QUOTE (Amen @ Jul 16 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't need to be Martin Scorsese to say that Spiderman 3 was a shitty movie, just as people that post here don't need to be Jay-Z to say that they don't like what you do.

Exactly. I could never explain it that way, and being an asshole was may way of doing it. Dubb's right, sometimes you are ridiculously on point.

QUOTE (TheUltimate @ Jul 16 2007, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a 3 inch dick and I made a porno and sold 13 videos, does that make me a pornstar? I diddnt think so, stay in school buddy!

Lol. Learn to take pride in the little education you have received.

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 11:40 AM

I think I can close this thread now.
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 12:34 PM

Why you closing the thread for?
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 06:18 PM

Cause it's played out. Plus I dont think the kid wants to be bashed about this anymore.
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 06:50 PM

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Cause it's played out. Plus I dont think the kid wants to be bashed about this anymore.


Anymore? Lol when did he ever want to hysterical.gif
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 07:52 PM

leave it open till training camp
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 08:47 PM

honestly i could care less if it was left open or closed. either way, i figured it was over after the posts by amen,s-dubb, and a few others
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 12:59 AM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jul 18 2007, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i figured it was over after the posts by amen,s-dubb, and a few others


You mean after the black people posted......?


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Posted 19 July 2007 - 08:57 AM

i'm puerto rican!
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 12:43 PM

i actually didnt catch that, those were just two ppl who made posts that seemed to settle the shit.
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 07:50 PM

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You mean after the black people posted......?
+1 Drunk Post ZING!


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Posted 19 July 2007 - 07:53 PM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jul 19 2007, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i actually didnt catch that, those were just two ppl who made posts that seemed to settle the shit.

Honestly.. it's all good. Theres no crime in doing soemthing you like doing no matter how garbage you might be at it. hysterical.gif ~kidding~

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:26 AM

QUOTE (Amen @ Jul 19 2007, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'm puerto rican!


Same thing! hysterical.gif

Oh man.... we're funny.
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