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azjetfan Icon : (03 March 2015 - 01:10 PM) Ryan is not a Bozo he is a cartoon character.
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 01:15 PM) anyone know anything about CB Kareem Jackson?
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 01:15 PM) FA from Houston. Obvious Mac connection.
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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:26 PM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:26 PM) FIRE BOWLES
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:26 PM) CONSTANT TURNOVER
azjetfan Icon : (03 March 2015 - 03:43 PM) I think we need to fire more people. Like Justin Beiber
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 04:22 PM) Kareem Jackson is a decent player, I would rather go elsewhere for CB though> He has been a streaky player, some bad seasons some good
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:23 PM) THE KNICKS
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:43 PM) @AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Bills have notified LB Kiko Alonso he is going to be traded to Philadelphia for RB LeSean McCoy. Trade official next week.
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:43 PM) WOW. Rex is gearing up for ground and pound.
Chaos Icon : (03 March 2015 - 06:44 PM) Jets can sign Spiller now but they're going to need a new LB. Rex is gunning for David Harris.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Jets should trade Harris to Minnesota for Minnesota for AP
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE (Amen @ Apr 3 2007, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I first heard of him back in about September and I don't think anyone's really tried to get at him like that yet. A few dudes have tried to trivialize what he's said and call him just as ignorant as the rappers he's criticizing, but no one's officially dropped his name in a diss yet. They're probably hoping that if they ignore him that he'll go away. Unless it's a beef where both rappers are gonna talk about how much more money they got than the next, then there's really nothing else to say.

The nature of this industry is to maintain a believable facade, and what NYOIL is trying to do is shatter that. You don't have to really be a murderous drug kingpin, but the fans need to believe you are. And since half these rappers really aren't, they can't get mad at a dude who's calling them out on it. But he's not calling them out in the way that Saigon or Tru Life would. Tru Life calls every rapper fake and *beep*, but while they're fake and *beep*, he builds himself up as really real and really tougher than they are. NYOIL's approach is, perhaps, more righteous, if that's the proper term. I don't wanna compare him to Malcolm X, but his approach of inspiring change is definitely inspired by Malcolm X. He wants to show his people the shit that goes on around them, that keeps us in the positions we are, how ignorance is glorified, and show everyone how that's a very intentional and orchestrated plan. While other rappers have shown the turn-the-other-cheek mentality and just "do them" like the Roots or anyone that's not into acting out for the camera, you got NYOIL who's going right at the jugular of it all.

You think that when rappers are selected to endorse things that kids in the ghetto can't afford isn't intentional? And every year the new endorsement gets more expensive. We went from $70 Polo jeans to $300 Evisu jeans. We went from $60 air force's and $110 jordans to $400 prada boots and $250 bapes, that require another $200+ hoody to match it. The popular music demographic is from 10-24. You got labels like Roc-A-Fella and Dipset, who at the height of their popularity launched their own liquor brands. So when the majority of your fans are under the legal drinking age, in fact, when your music targets the demographic under the legal drinking age, what kind of poison are you pumping out to the youth? Yeah, I think we all drank underage, and did it for whatever reasons we had, so we can't specifically blame rap -- but where's the desire to help?


Good post!

Me being 28 and started listening to hip hop around 87 I've been around to witness this whole transformation. The real truth is is that you CAN blame it on rap. (this is my outsiders looking in approach) you have inner city youth living in or under the poverty line and making it big. These same cats now have morgages and big willie sh!t to deal with but the core of this problem is "role models", how is man to be a role model to an adolecent when he's having a hard time dealing with being man. We have parents in our society that shouldn't be parents raising kids they shouldn't have. O.K I'm getting off track a bit but what I'm trying to say is rap and hip hop now-a-days is corrupting everything it touches. People are enamored with the materialistic lifestyle that these rappers are constantly rapping about. I don't want to some like some anti-rap activist but truth be told. I love hip hop and will take it to the grave with me but I'm not blinded to the point where I can't see the negativity and the utter corruption it has on the masses (specifically our youth) I work for a life insurance company and when I was working in N.Y you couldn't imagine how many 19 year olds I have coming in talking to me about life insurance. FUCKED UP SH!T. Look, rap is like a poison because not everyone is mentally strong to be their own person, alot of folk are looking for an outlet and are trying to find some sort of common bond to relate or fit in. Sex,money, drugs,thugism are rotting whole economic societies. Geographically killing people like aids, long and slow. This will never stop because it's a circle, it's a circle of continuous bullsh!t. Inner city youth or urbanized youth rapping about things they dream of like b!tches and money and teaching (rapping) about it for the next generation to follow, it's a never ending cycle.

I don't want to sound like some peace keeper or someone who's above all this because I myself at my age buy into it. I listen to it and live it. I play my part but at the same time I'm not turning my an ear to it and I'm not acting like the problem isn't there. To say "you can't blame it on rap" is nonsense. It's like giving a kid alcohol and that kid growing up to be an alcoholic and saying "it aien't my fault"

Bottom line is there is no way to unravel this, sure we can think of nice ways and ideas but truth is it's a cancer thats uncurable Guys like NY Oil come along and try to put their stamp on the issue. Trying and grab a hold of a small piece of the hip hop community and make them see through a different light, thats why I respect him. Hip hop at it's purest form is a beautiful thing and it's gotten me through life but theres no denying how certain entities have tainted it from the very grassroots.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 10:11 AM

I absolutely agree with you. In present day society, Hip-Hop definitely doesn't help what goes on in low-income communities. It sucks because you got these dudes glorifying being street dudes while living in mansions way outside of the city. The kids listening don't think about that. They think about snatching the next dude's chain, and doin' some pitchin' on the block so they can cop a new whip -- only to keep living in the projects. And since a lot of the message of Hip-Hop music is to resist positivity, then it's not cool to speak to kids about the alternatives in life. It's easier to give props to a dude like Hell Rell than it is to show NYOIL love. The same way it used to be cooler to be the class clown as a kid, rather than be the one who was on the honor roll. Like NYOIL said in his song, "*beep* come home from college/ y'all say he ain't shit/ *beep* come home from jail/ Y'all all on his dick..." It's extra wack because I got this chick I was talkin' to (My Bernie Williams if you remember the Cigar Bar post) and she just recently got a job making a little over $45k a year. Instead of takin that dough to move out of that apartment in the projects with her son, she buys herself a Benz, to park on the block.. while ridin an elevator that smells like piss.

But liquor, drug abuse, obsessions with sex, etc were all around before Hip-Hop. There's dudes who aren't fans of Hip-Hop that are just as self-destructive. Music genres all have their different drugs of choice. The flaw that comes with Hip-Hop is the racial undertone that this society has fueled. Ever since Hip-Hop became popular music it became part of the machine. Like I said before, it helps fuel self-hatred. Every kid has to think "this ain't good enough" and wants more even if it's not within his means. You've got grown ass women with 4 kids who're 2 months late on rent that need to spend $90 to get their hair done and do it twice a month. That materialism is a mu'fucka.


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Masta Ace - Born to Roll
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:22 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Apr 2 2007, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm gonna change the topic to the offical rap thread.
Wait who downloads stuff legaly anymore? There is something you can buy at stores where it takes the words out of the song if you can not find the instrumenal.

do u have any idea how much that costs and where i could get it, cause that would be f***ing AWESOME!
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 11:45 PM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Apr 3 2007, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do u have any idea how much that costs and where i could get it, cause that would be f***ing AWESOME!

I don't know where you could get it at. You should try google and see what it is called.
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Posted 05 April 2007 - 10:08 AM

Bump.

We gotta show them rock dude whats up.



With proper music.
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Posted 06 April 2007 - 11:06 AM

a couple days ago i posted a blog on here(and my myspace also) about who i think is the top 6 freestylers out right now. but my 3 and 4 r tied with each other and 5 and 6 r tied, i think my 4 is a better battler but my 3 is a better freestyler straight up
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 10:24 PM

Alright fuckers...time to bump this thread back up, for no reason at all!
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 10:26 PM

kobesgay why do you have to steal my material?

(and this will be the last time I post in a thread endorsing rap)
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHellfighterNYC @ Jun 15 2007, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kobesgay why do you have to steal my material?

(and this will be the last time I post in a thread endorsing rap)

Just to get you to post in a rap thread. hysterical.gif
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 11:37 PM

kobesgay I think we can come to a peace agreement about music now

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VjuMJn0y2w0
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHellfighterNYC @ Jun 15 2007, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kobesgay I think we can come to a peace agreement about music now

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VjuMJn0y2w0

HarlemHomofvckerNYC, The Game makes the drummer sound good.

P.s what up wit the new name? Its whack.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jun 19 2007, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HarlemHomofvckerNYC, The Game makes the drummer sound good.

P.s what up wit the new name? Its whack.


Oh man I can't wait till Vilmatime gets here with you talkin bout Travis Barker like that. Oh there will be blood.

P.S.: With a s/n like that, you have NO right to talk about someone else's s/n hysterical.gif
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHxC814 @ Jun 19 2007, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh man I can't wait till Vilmatime gets here with you talkin bout Travis Barker like that. Oh there will be blood.

P.S.: With a s/n like that, you have NO right to talk about someone else's s/n hysterical.gif

HHF was better then the new one. Vilmatime also has a hard one for the Game so he shouldn't care to much.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 11:13 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jun 19 2007, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HarlemHomofvckerNYC, The Game makes the drummer sound good.

P.s what up wit the new name? Its whack.

WOAH! u obviously have no idea what it takes to master an instrument to such a level T-Barker is on..its prob because you only listen to rap which requires NO instrumental talent at all..T-Barker is considered by many as one of the best drummers of all time...and you just watched him play with one arm!

T-Barker>Lil Wayne..
just accept it..
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 11:16 PM

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WOAH! u obviously have no idea what it takes to master an instrument to such a level T-Barker is on..its prob because you only listen to rap which requires NO instrumental talent at all..T-Barker is considered by many as one of the best drummers of all time...and you just watched him play with one arm!


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Posted 19 June 2007 - 11:22 PM

QUOTE (vilmatime51 @ Jun 19 2007, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOAH! u obviously have no idea what it takes to master an instrument to such a level T-Barker is on..its prob because you only listen to rap which requires NO instrumental talent at all..T-Barker is considered by many as one of the best drummers of all time...and you just watched him play with one arm!

T-Barker>Lil Wayne..
just accept it..

LIl Wayne is a rapper. Game and Wayne could kick Barkers ass.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 11:39 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jun 20 2007, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LIl Wayne is a rapper. Game and Wayne could kick Barkers ass.

hey everyone listen as kobes fav rapper lil wayne mentions Travis Barker in his rap..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2l0k6boLJZo
"Beat It Up Like It's A Drum...Call Me Travis Barker.."- Lil Wayne

T-barker and Wayne are bois..just accept it!
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 12:27 AM

QUOTE (vilmatime51 @ Jun 19 2007, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey everyone listen as kobes fav rapper lil wayne mentions Travis Barker in his rap..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2l0k6boLJZo
"Beat It Up Like It's A Drum...Call Me Travis Barker.."- Lil Wayne

T-barker and Wayne are bois..just accept it!

Just because he was high and said his name in a rap doesn't mean they are boys.
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 06:39 AM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jun 20 2007, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just because he was high and said his name in a rap doesn't mean they are boys.


Barker + Lil Wayne + The Game= Boys...just accept it
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 09:25 AM

What does lil wayne and travis barker maybe being friends have to do with anything?

Thanks for the Memories
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