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ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) ^^^ agreed
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:25 PM) all the admins on this page should be fired
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:25 PM) for being assclowns
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:17 PM) The Jets are fucked at CB, signing some bums now. We need Milliner to get healthy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 04:20 PM) We have signed CB Phillip Adams
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE (Amen @ Apr 3 2007, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I first heard of him back in about September and I don't think anyone's really tried to get at him like that yet. A few dudes have tried to trivialize what he's said and call him just as ignorant as the rappers he's criticizing, but no one's officially dropped his name in a diss yet. They're probably hoping that if they ignore him that he'll go away. Unless it's a beef where both rappers are gonna talk about how much more money they got than the next, then there's really nothing else to say.

The nature of this industry is to maintain a believable facade, and what NYOIL is trying to do is shatter that. You don't have to really be a murderous drug kingpin, but the fans need to believe you are. And since half these rappers really aren't, they can't get mad at a dude who's calling them out on it. But he's not calling them out in the way that Saigon or Tru Life would. Tru Life calls every rapper fake and *beep*, but while they're fake and *beep*, he builds himself up as really real and really tougher than they are. NYOIL's approach is, perhaps, more righteous, if that's the proper term. I don't wanna compare him to Malcolm X, but his approach of inspiring change is definitely inspired by Malcolm X. He wants to show his people the shit that goes on around them, that keeps us in the positions we are, how ignorance is glorified, and show everyone how that's a very intentional and orchestrated plan. While other rappers have shown the turn-the-other-cheek mentality and just "do them" like the Roots or anyone that's not into acting out for the camera, you got NYOIL who's going right at the jugular of it all.

You think that when rappers are selected to endorse things that kids in the ghetto can't afford isn't intentional? And every year the new endorsement gets more expensive. We went from $70 Polo jeans to $300 Evisu jeans. We went from $60 air force's and $110 jordans to $400 prada boots and $250 bapes, that require another $200+ hoody to match it. The popular music demographic is from 10-24. You got labels like Roc-A-Fella and Dipset, who at the height of their popularity launched their own liquor brands. So when the majority of your fans are under the legal drinking age, in fact, when your music targets the demographic under the legal drinking age, what kind of poison are you pumping out to the youth? Yeah, I think we all drank underage, and did it for whatever reasons we had, so we can't specifically blame rap -- but where's the desire to help?


Good post!

Me being 28 and started listening to hip hop around 87 I've been around to witness this whole transformation. The real truth is is that you CAN blame it on rap. (this is my outsiders looking in approach) you have inner city youth living in or under the poverty line and making it big. These same cats now have morgages and big willie sh!t to deal with but the core of this problem is "role models", how is man to be a role model to an adolecent when he's having a hard time dealing with being man. We have parents in our society that shouldn't be parents raising kids they shouldn't have. O.K I'm getting off track a bit but what I'm trying to say is rap and hip hop now-a-days is corrupting everything it touches. People are enamored with the materialistic lifestyle that these rappers are constantly rapping about. I don't want to some like some anti-rap activist but truth be told. I love hip hop and will take it to the grave with me but I'm not blinded to the point where I can't see the negativity and the utter corruption it has on the masses (specifically our youth) I work for a life insurance company and when I was working in N.Y you couldn't imagine how many 19 year olds I have coming in talking to me about life insurance. FUCKED UP SH!T. Look, rap is like a poison because not everyone is mentally strong to be their own person, alot of folk are looking for an outlet and are trying to find some sort of common bond to relate or fit in. Sex,money, drugs,thugism are rotting whole economic societies. Geographically killing people like aids, long and slow. This will never stop because it's a circle, it's a circle of continuous bullsh!t. Inner city youth or urbanized youth rapping about things they dream of like b!tches and money and teaching (rapping) about it for the next generation to follow, it's a never ending cycle.

I don't want to sound like some peace keeper or someone who's above all this because I myself at my age buy into it. I listen to it and live it. I play my part but at the same time I'm not turning my an ear to it and I'm not acting like the problem isn't there. To say "you can't blame it on rap" is nonsense. It's like giving a kid alcohol and that kid growing up to be an alcoholic and saying "it aien't my fault"

Bottom line is there is no way to unravel this, sure we can think of nice ways and ideas but truth is it's a cancer thats uncurable Guys like NY Oil come along and try to put their stamp on the issue. Trying and grab a hold of a small piece of the hip hop community and make them see through a different light, thats why I respect him. Hip hop at it's purest form is a beautiful thing and it's gotten me through life but theres no denying how certain entities have tainted it from the very grassroots.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 10:11 AM

I absolutely agree with you. In present day society, Hip-Hop definitely doesn't help what goes on in low-income communities. It sucks because you got these dudes glorifying being street dudes while living in mansions way outside of the city. The kids listening don't think about that. They think about snatching the next dude's chain, and doin' some pitchin' on the block so they can cop a new whip -- only to keep living in the projects. And since a lot of the message of Hip-Hop music is to resist positivity, then it's not cool to speak to kids about the alternatives in life. It's easier to give props to a dude like Hell Rell than it is to show NYOIL love. The same way it used to be cooler to be the class clown as a kid, rather than be the one who was on the honor roll. Like NYOIL said in his song, "*beep* come home from college/ y'all say he ain't shit/ *beep* come home from jail/ Y'all all on his dick..." It's extra wack because I got this chick I was talkin' to (My Bernie Williams if you remember the Cigar Bar post) and she just recently got a job making a little over $45k a year. Instead of takin that dough to move out of that apartment in the projects with her son, she buys herself a Benz, to park on the block.. while ridin an elevator that smells like piss.

But liquor, drug abuse, obsessions with sex, etc were all around before Hip-Hop. There's dudes who aren't fans of Hip-Hop that are just as self-destructive. Music genres all have their different drugs of choice. The flaw that comes with Hip-Hop is the racial undertone that this society has fueled. Ever since Hip-Hop became popular music it became part of the machine. Like I said before, it helps fuel self-hatred. Every kid has to think "this ain't good enough" and wants more even if it's not within his means. You've got grown ass women with 4 kids who're 2 months late on rent that need to spend $90 to get their hair done and do it twice a month. That materialism is a mu'fucka.


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Masta Ace - Born to Roll
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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:22 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Apr 2 2007, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm gonna change the topic to the offical rap thread.
Wait who downloads stuff legaly anymore? There is something you can buy at stores where it takes the words out of the song if you can not find the instrumenal.

do u have any idea how much that costs and where i could get it, cause that would be f***ing AWESOME!
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Posted 04 April 2007 - 11:45 PM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Apr 3 2007, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do u have any idea how much that costs and where i could get it, cause that would be f***ing AWESOME!

I don't know where you could get it at. You should try google and see what it is called.
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Posted 05 April 2007 - 10:08 AM

Bump.

We gotta show them rock dude whats up.



With proper music.
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Posted 06 April 2007 - 11:06 AM

a couple days ago i posted a blog on here(and my myspace also) about who i think is the top 6 freestylers out right now. but my 3 and 4 r tied with each other and 5 and 6 r tied, i think my 4 is a better battler but my 3 is a better freestyler straight up
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 10:24 PM

Alright fuckers...time to bump this thread back up, for no reason at all!
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 10:26 PM

kobesgay why do you have to steal my material?

(and this will be the last time I post in a thread endorsing rap)
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHellfighterNYC @ Jun 15 2007, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kobesgay why do you have to steal my material?

(and this will be the last time I post in a thread endorsing rap)

Just to get you to post in a rap thread. hysterical.gif
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 11:37 PM

kobesgay I think we can come to a peace agreement about music now

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VjuMJn0y2w0
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHellfighterNYC @ Jun 15 2007, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
kobesgay I think we can come to a peace agreement about music now

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VjuMJn0y2w0

HarlemHomofvckerNYC, The Game makes the drummer sound good.

P.s what up wit the new name? Its whack.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jun 19 2007, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HarlemHomofvckerNYC, The Game makes the drummer sound good.

P.s what up wit the new name? Its whack.


Oh man I can't wait till Vilmatime gets here with you talkin bout Travis Barker like that. Oh there will be blood.

P.S.: With a s/n like that, you have NO right to talk about someone else's s/n hysterical.gif
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE (HarlemHxC814 @ Jun 19 2007, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh man I can't wait till Vilmatime gets here with you talkin bout Travis Barker like that. Oh there will be blood.

P.S.: With a s/n like that, you have NO right to talk about someone else's s/n hysterical.gif

HHF was better then the new one. Vilmatime also has a hard one for the Game so he shouldn't care to much.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 11:13 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jun 19 2007, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HarlemHomofvckerNYC, The Game makes the drummer sound good.

P.s what up wit the new name? Its whack.

WOAH! u obviously have no idea what it takes to master an instrument to such a level T-Barker is on..its prob because you only listen to rap which requires NO instrumental talent at all..T-Barker is considered by many as one of the best drummers of all time...and you just watched him play with one arm!

T-Barker>Lil Wayne..
just accept it..
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 11:16 PM

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WOAH! u obviously have no idea what it takes to master an instrument to such a level T-Barker is on..its prob because you only listen to rap which requires NO instrumental talent at all..T-Barker is considered by many as one of the best drummers of all time...and you just watched him play with one arm!


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Posted 19 June 2007 - 11:22 PM

QUOTE (vilmatime51 @ Jun 19 2007, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOAH! u obviously have no idea what it takes to master an instrument to such a level T-Barker is on..its prob because you only listen to rap which requires NO instrumental talent at all..T-Barker is considered by many as one of the best drummers of all time...and you just watched him play with one arm!

T-Barker>Lil Wayne..
just accept it..

LIl Wayne is a rapper. Game and Wayne could kick Barkers ass.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 11:39 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jun 20 2007, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LIl Wayne is a rapper. Game and Wayne could kick Barkers ass.

hey everyone listen as kobes fav rapper lil wayne mentions Travis Barker in his rap..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2l0k6boLJZo
"Beat It Up Like It's A Drum...Call Me Travis Barker.."- Lil Wayne

T-barker and Wayne are bois..just accept it!
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 12:27 AM

QUOTE (vilmatime51 @ Jun 19 2007, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey everyone listen as kobes fav rapper lil wayne mentions Travis Barker in his rap..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2l0k6boLJZo
"Beat It Up Like It's A Drum...Call Me Travis Barker.."- Lil Wayne

T-barker and Wayne are bois..just accept it!

Just because he was high and said his name in a rap doesn't mean they are boys.
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 06:39 AM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jun 20 2007, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just because he was high and said his name in a rap doesn't mean they are boys.


Barker + Lil Wayne + The Game= Boys...just accept it
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 09:25 AM

What does lil wayne and travis barker maybe being friends have to do with anything?

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